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Old April 14th 10, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
Jonathan
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"William Black" wrote in message
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Jonathan wrote:

It's looking to me like the war on terror is creating that ability.
We seem to make some bad guy explode on a pretty regular
basis these days, going on ten years really.


It makes wedding parties explode as well.



You mean those weddiing parties that just happen to have
anti-aircraft guns as part of the ceremony?



It isn't the weapons that need improvement, it's the targeting...



But with lasers, the two systems can become one in the same.
And with civilians becoming the defensive weapon of choice
for so many of our adversaries, lasers can do things nothing else
can. For instance an armored column surrounded by hundreds of
human shields. A laser can be scaled to stop every vehicle without
killing everyone. Not to mention someday providing a bottomless
magazine.



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The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single
handed with a quarterstaff.


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Old April 15th 10, 10:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
William Black[_1_]
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Jonathan wrote:

"William Black" wrote in message
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Jonathan wrote:


Does it work?



These people say they "can" work. And are working to
make it a reality soon.

DIRECTED ENERGY DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7971


So that's a 'no' then.


--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
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Old April 16th 10, 02:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
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"William Black" wrote in message
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Jonathan wrote:


Does it work?



These people say they "can" work. And are working to
make it a reality soon.

DIRECTED ENERGY DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7971






--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single
handed with a quarterstaff.


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Old April 16th 10, 02:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
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Creating arrays of dust mite sized swarming elements that are solar
powered and capable of chomping through anything, as well as sensing
the environment around them

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...mallest-camera

(this too is an OLD picture - modern weaponeers will have better
smaller systems)

would be unstoppable as a plague.



Which could we survive better, man-made disease/weapons or
natural diseases?

I'm not so sure the man-made versions would be worse. For instance
HIV is so devastating partially due to how...non-lethal...it is for
such a long time. Allowing someone to carry and spread it far and wide
without knowing. Some disease that is extremely deadly would limit the total
damage to far fewer.

I don;t think human made systems can rival natural ones until we learn
how to use evolutionary processes to create them. As any process capable
of creating intelligence must define the ideal.










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Old April 16th 10, 10:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
William Black[_1_]
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Default The Next Military Step...Stealth Weapons?

Jonathan wrote:

"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:

"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:

Does it work?


These people say they "can" work. And are working to
make it a reality soon.

DIRECTED ENERGY DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7971


So that's a 'no' then.



The question that should be asked is if the US military should
continue to militarize space as fast as it can, as part of missile
defense and the war on terror?


I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with the so called 'war
on terror'.

--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
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Old April 16th 10, 12:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
William Mook[_2_]
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On Apr 15, 9:34*pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
"William Mook" wrote in message

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Creating arrays of dust mite sized swarming elements that are solar
powered and capable of chomping through anything, as well as sensing
the environment around them


http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...mallest-camera


(this too is an OLD picture - modern weaponeers will have better
smaller systems)


would be unstoppable as a plague.


Which could we survive better, man-made disease/weapons or
natural diseases?

I'm not so sure the man-made versions would be worse. For instance
HIV is so devastating partially due to how...non-lethal...it is for
such a long time. Allowing someone to carry and spread it far and wide
without knowing. Some disease that is extremely deadly would limit the total
damage to far fewer.

I don;t think human made systems can rival natural ones until we learn
how to use evolutionary processes to create them. As any process capable
of creating intelligence must define the ideal.



We *already* have genetic algorithms and evolutionary algorithms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_algorithm
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Old April 16th 10, 01:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
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Default The Next Military Step...Stealth Weapons?

"Jonathan" wrote in
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"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:

"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:

Does it work?


These people say they "can" work. And are working to
make it a reality soon.

DIRECTED ENERGY DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7971


So that's a 'no' then.



The question that should be asked is if the US military should
continue to militarize space as fast as it can, as part of missile
defense and the war on terror?


Space is already militarized.
where do you think the ICBMs travel?
Or where the military guidance and communication sats exist?

what's wrong with ballistic missile defense?
whether space-based or terrestrial.
DEFENSIVE missiles (particularly hit-to-kill)in space or on the
ground threaten no one.

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Old April 17th 10, 01:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
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Default The Next Military Step...Stealth Weapons?


"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:

"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:

"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:

Does it work?


These people say they "can" work. And are working to
make it a reality soon.

DIRECTED ENERGY DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7971

So that's a 'no' then.



The question that should be asked is if the US military should
continue to militarize space as fast as it can, as part of missile
defense and the war on terror?


I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with the so called 'war on
terror'.



Missile defense is all about tracking and remote sensing of all kinds.
And presently the skies of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen,
Sudan and Iran are darkened by the constant over flights of our
Global Hawks and Predators and God knows what else.

A point I've been trying to make, and I think it's pretty straightforward
is that missile defense technology easily converts to offensive precision
strike weapons. And lasers are the future of missile defense.

American Global Defense:
The Speed of Light Weapons
by Dr. Oded Amichai

"Whoever owns the speed-of-light weapons will dominate the
battle-space in almost every respect. There is no doubt that
the US is dominant in laser technology. Airplane-based lasers
and space-based lasers are being developed internally while
ground-based lasers against artillery rockets and short-range
missiles are being developed jointly with Israel."
http://www.jewishpost.com/archives/n...t-weapons.html



High Energy Laser
Directed Energy Weapons
Technical Report APA-TR-2008-0501

"The next ten years will see the emergence of high energy lasers
as an operational capability in US service. These weapons
will have the unique capability to attack targets at the
speed of light and are likely to significantly impair the
effectiveness of many weapon types,"
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-DEW-HEL-Analysis.html


I just don't think most people realize just how much has
changed since the Wall fell and 9/11 with US military
posture and capabilities. Our military has been used
rather aggressively in the past even when it might mean
a global nuclear holocaust.

We don't have the worry anymore.

And now 9/11 has given us an ongoing crusade to
police the lawless regions of the world. Combine all
that with the 25 odd years of dedicated missile defense
technology now becoming mature. And never before
has the US military been more globally dominant, or
as aggressively used. With those trends growing quickly.

In ten years or so, China will have gone the way of the
former Soviet Union, while the US will have complete
control of the sea, space and skies with any part of the
globe we desire.

Anyone that thinks American influence or power is waning
couldn't be more wrong. The 'American' century is just
getting started.

Jonathan

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--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single
handed with a quarterstaff.






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Old April 17th 10, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,alt.politics,sci.space.policy,sci.military.naval
Jonathan
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Default The Next Military Step...Stealth Weapons?


"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:

"William Black" wrote in message
...
Jonathan wrote:


Does it work?



These people say they "can" work. And are working to
make it a reality soon.

DIRECTED ENERGY DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7971


So that's a 'no' then.



The question that should be asked is if the US military should
continue to militarize space as fast as it can, as part of missile
defense and the war on terror?






--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single
handed with a quarterstaff.


 




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