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Old May 8th 07, 10:05 PM posted to alt.astronomy
G=EMC^2 Glazier[_1_]
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oc What helps Wolter's theory is when we think of gravities compression
force. We have its force pushing in,and when fusion is achieve the Sun's
photons pushing out to a point where both forces balance. See oc not one
word of pull.or curved space. Sum it up with few words(that makes for
a nice theory) "Photons outward radiation,and gravitons pushing in are
in perfect balance" All said in 10 words that a bar maid can
understand.(Bohr) Short to Einstein's liking,and mine. However not
balanced forever,for gravity has to win in the end to make me happy
Bert PS and gravity always comes out the winner

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Old May 8th 07, 10:44 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On May 8, 2:05 pm, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

We have its force pushing in, and when fusion is active the Sun's
photons are pushing out to a point where both forces balance. See.. not one
word of pull, or curved space.


Tarnation Bert, i thought you didn't believe in push gravity. :-)

oc

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Old May 8th 07, 11:57 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On May 8, 2:44 pm, oldcoot wrote:
On May 8, 2:05 pm, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

We have its force pushing in, and when fusion is active the Sun's
photons are pushing out to a point where both forces balance. See.. not one
word of pull, or curved space.


Tarnation Bert, i thought you didn't believe in push gravity. :-)

oc


He's a recent convert. Hadn't you noticed?

Though, I don't really think of Wolter's theory as exactly push, since
there is no collison of particles exchanging kinetic energy and
causing friction as in the traditional push theories, at least the way
I understand it.

Double-A




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Old May 9th 07, 12:04 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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In article . com,
Double-A wrote:

He's a recent convert. Hadn't you noticed?

Though, I don't really think of Wolter's theory as exactly push, since
there is no collison of particles exchanging kinetic energy and
causing friction as in the traditional push theories, at least the way
I understand it.

Double-A



Its a push theory, regardless how you try and model it otherwise... Just
because you've desperately tried to make up new physical sounding words...

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Old May 9th 07, 12:18 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On May 8, 4:04 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck
wrote:
In article . com,

Double-A wrote:
He's a recent convert. Hadn't you noticed?


Though, I don't really think of Wolter's theory as exactly push, since
there is no collison of particles exchanging kinetic energy and
causing friction as in the traditional push theories, at least the way
I understand it.


Double-A


Its a push theory, regardless how you try and model it otherwise... Just
because you've desperately tried to make up new physical sounding words...



You only say that because you still have not been able to get your
mind around the revolutionary concepts of the Wolterian theory.

Back to your studies, grasshopper.

Double-A


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Old May 9th 07, 12:24 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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In article .com,
Double-A wrote:

Its a push theory, regardless how you try and model it otherwise... Just
because you've desperately tried to make up new physical sounding words...



You only say that because you still have not been able to get your
mind around the revolutionary concepts of the Wolterian theory.


Point me to the peer-reviewed articles Wolter published.


Back to your studies, grasshopper.




There is no theory, AA, because it has no mathematical framework, is physically
inconsistent and produces results that are at odds with observed behaviour.

So perhaps you and your breathtaking knowledge of physics would like to attack
the 21 questions.....


We both know what you will do of course. Same as when we asked you about the
bigotry of your fellow space cadets...

Run off like the coward you are.

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singularity.

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Old May 9th 07, 12:44 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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oc You are my virtual friend over so many years now if I can bend in
your late friend Wolton's direction its my pleasure. I still have my
own gravity theory as you know. I also used compression,and not action
at a distance that weakens with the square of the distance. Its
attraction that is gravities big mystery. Newton left it alone.
Einstein curved space "concave". I took that GR a step further with my
"convex" curve,for inflating,and I also use my 'Spin is in theory" that
fits in with quantum gravity,and that gives the graviton a chance to
show how it works. I have said push theory for bringing stuff together
is fun thinking,and makes for interesting discussions,and got you and I
to know each other,but Wolton's theory still creates more questions than
answers. Bert

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Old May 9th 07, 12:51 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On May 8, 4:24 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck
wrote:
In article .com,

Double-A wrote:
Its a push theory, regardless how you try and model it otherwise... Just
because you've desperately tried to make up new physical sounding words...


You only say that because you still have not been able to get your
mind around the revolutionary concepts of the Wolterian theory.


Point me to the peer-reviewed articles Wolter published.



Socrates never published an article of any kind, and yet he is still
studied in all our major universities. And it's not that things
weren't being published in his day.


Back to your studies, grasshopper.


There is no theory, AA, because it has no mathematical framework, is physically
inconsistent and produces results that are at odds with observed behaviour.



You have been shown compatible math that has been developed, and the
theory is compatible with the math of GR.


So perhaps you and your breathtaking knowledge of physics would like to attack
the 21 questions.....



Those questions were disingenuos. The poster was not truly seeking
answers. Whatever answers had been given, he would have rejected
them.


We both know what you will do of course. Same as when we asked you about the
bigotry of your fellow space cadets...

Run off like the coward you are.

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Sacred keeper



Now you try to change the subject, and who is "we"?

Double-A


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Old May 9th 07, 12:58 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Double-A Well Einstien never got a Nobel for GR.(I think he should
have at lease been nominated. I know photons don't bounce. I know
when the Moon is in exact line you can add both their gravity forces
together. Moon don't block but adds to the Sun's gravity. I have a
theory how this is done,and it comes out of my ":Spin is in theory" It
could even help Wolton. Reality is we live in the best of times,for
gravity is still a great mystery,and everyone likes mysteries. On tv
yesterday I saw a man walk across a swimming pool with a girl swimming
under him. Go figure Bert

 




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