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Old January 2nd 06, 01:33 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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http://mitpress.mit.edu/journals/pdf/POSC_13_1_74_0.pdf

The 'Panus Quadregesimalis' on page 86 is the second greatest
astronomical representation after the Copernican heliocentric
arrangement but causes all sorts of difficulties and misjudgements
even though Kepler explains that it represents the orbital motion of
Mars against the orbital motion of the Earth (bottom page 84) in terms
of orbital periods.

While the authors of that website assume,as most do through habit ,that
the representation reflects the motions of Mars from a stationary Earth
,the variations in spacings between the loops and the size of the
retrograde loops themselves reflect an accurate description of the
orbital motion of the Earth overtaking the orbital motion of Mars.Had
the orbits been circular and uniform the spacings and the loops would
be of equal dimensions however the variations in spacings denote
Keplerian motion and geometry.

Planetary motions were always considered direct by both Ptolemaics and
heliocentrists even though both retained the stellar background for
plotting the motions (hence retrogrades) however Newton retained the
stellar background and simply transferred the plotted motions
including retrogrades to a heliocentric arrangement

Newton basically took the representation of page 86 as geocentric and
transfered it directly to a heliocentric arrangement and Keplerian
geometry,hence the concept which is neither Copernican nor Ptolemaic -

"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes

stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are
always seen direct.."


http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm


Kepler would have operated on the principle that planetary motions are
always seen direct from the orbital motion of the Earth and all
observation suggests it -

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

The point of departure for a much needed astronomical audit is matching
the plotting of planetary motion of Mars to the Panus quadragesimalis
as being partly geocentric in terms of the plotting against the stellar
background and partly heliocentric in accurately reflecting where Earth
and Mars meet and move apart thus generating unequal looping and
spacing .

For the first time genuine investigators can approach the Newtonian
Scholium IV (it is not really neccessary) and make sense of relative
and absolute space as a misjudgement creating a concept that is
neither geocentric nor heliocentric but quasi-geocentric and closer to
astrology in nature than it is to Ptolemaic astronomy.

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/...tions.htm#time

The build up of astronomical data and its relevence to not just
astronomy but also geology,climatology and many seemingly unrelated
disciplines require a more accurate reflection of the Earth's motions
and orientations,without a complete audit of astronomical
conceptions,warts and all,genuinely productive avenues will remain
blocked off and association between different disciplines will wither.

It is not a matter of right and wrong but of intuitive atrophy ,noting
that there are no conditions by which it can be adjudged whether a
person has the neccessary qualities to assess the astronomical
material,unfortunately the broad consensual exotic conceptions that
now exist suggests that the intutive astronomical faculties remain
undeveloped or almost non-existent.

Have a productive New Year.

 




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