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Old May 25th 05, 02:01 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
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Nature creates in pairs. For every action there is an equal action in
another direction. Inertia can become greater with more mass or greater
revolving speed of the same mass. Lets relate a white hole to a black
hole,as being relative to comparing an electron with a positron.(OK)
How can I put this all together and create reality out of it. White
holes and black holes explode in opposite directions White holes explode
outward,and black holes implode inward. White holes give to the space
gamma photons Black holes unleash their singularity. A white hole
has no singularity at its core. A black hole has squeezed its photons
into the singularity when imploding. White holes reach their critical
mass faster than black holes because they spin much faster. There are
as many white holes as there are flakes of snow in an endless storm.The
better we get at detecting them the more and more they be. Bert

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Old May 25th 05, 02:52 PM
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Nature creates in pairs. For every action there is an equal action in
another direction. Inertia can become greater with more mass or greater
revolving speed of the same mass. Lets relate a white hole to a black
hole,as being relative to comparing an electron with a positron.(OK)



Huh!?

I thought you said that gamma ray bursts were caused by black holes
reaching their "critical mass"?


How can I put this all together and create reality out of it. White
holes and black holes explode in opposite directions White holes explode
outward,and black holes implode inward. White holes give to the space
gamma photons Black holes unleash their singularity. A white hole
has no singularity at its core. A black hole has squeezed its photons
into the singularity when imploding. White holes reach their critical
mass faster than black holes because they spin much faster. There are
as many white holes as there are flakes of snow in an endless storm.The
better we get at detecting them the more and more they be. Bert



Then how come we don't observe any white holes, or white hole
candidates? There are gamma rays, yes, but we can't see what kind of
object they are coming from because they come from outside our galaxy.

Double-A

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Old May 25th 05, 03:12 PM
Luigi Caselli
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"Double-A" ha scritto nel messaggio
oups.com...

Then how come we don't observe any white holes, or white hole
candidates? There are gamma rays, yes, but we can't see what kind of
object they are coming from because they come from outside our galaxy.


Maybe I'm wrong but I think that Swift, in more or less one minute after
detecting a GRB, can observe the source and communicate the Earth
observatory the coordinates of th GRB emission.
So this time Bert will have immediately a proof of how is bad to eat lots of
Italian meat balls and after that thinking about white holes...

Luigi Caselli


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Old May 25th 05, 03:19 PM
Angelo Campanella
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Double-A wrote:
I thought you said that gamma ray bursts were caused by black holes
reaching their "critical mass"?


Known experiments on earth show that gamma bursts come from chain
reaction fission (aka "the bomb"). Environmentally induced fusion
processes (e.g. old sol) can also produce gammas, but they would be
steady state and not transient bursts. "Bomb" fusion produce gamma
bursts, but they requires a hot-cold environment to the best of our
knowledge, which I say is not natural (baked alaska is man-made).

Black holes, or any other accumulation, can become critical, I suppose,
but we need a very well thought out scenario to make it credible.

Then how come we don't observe any white holes, or white hole
candidates?


White holes as you infer, may only be accumulations that have not yet
become large enough to create an event horizon (where photon emissions
from the star can't get past).

There are gamma rays, yes, but we can't see what kind of
object they are coming from because they come from outside our galaxy.


I don't know how to interpret that thought.

I'm staying with the bow tie nebula concept where breakdown fission is
the energetic event.

Angelo Campanella

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Old May 25th 05, 08:10 PM
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Hi double-a You just about answered your own question by bringing in
great distance from us. I could add that white holes are say no bigger
object than our Moon. Small and far. The main thinking of my post was
ways to reach a critical mass. There are many ways that I see nature
doing this. Not just more mass compressed by gravity over long periods
of time. Heavy objects can merge into one Increase in spinning speed
creates greater inertia Best to keep in mind a spinning object is
continually changing direction,and changing direction is another way to
increase inertia. Bert

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Old May 25th 05, 03:05 PM
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" ha scritto nel messaggio
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Nature creates in pairs. For every action there is an equal action in
another direction. Inertia can become greater with more mass or greater
revolving speed of the same mass. Lets relate a white hole to a black
hole,as being relative to comparing an electron with a positron.(OK)
How can I put this all together and create reality out of it. White
holes and black holes explode in opposite directions White holes explode
outward,and black holes implode inward. White holes give to the space
gamma photons Black holes unleash their singularity. A white hole
has no singularity at its core. A black hole has squeezed its photons
into the singularity when imploding. White holes reach their critical
mass faster than black holes because they spin much faster. There are
as many white holes as there are flakes of snow in an endless storm.The
better we get at detecting them the more and more they be. Bert


Did you eat lots of Italian meat balls before posting this message?
We have lots of weird objects in the universe: black holes, pulsars,
gravastars, quark stars, dark energy stars, whatyouwant stars and you need
also white holes because you are a bit bored to have always the same boring
stars...

Before eating too much you said that GRB are caused by black holes when they
start a new universe and, even if weird, this is much more likely than white
holes...

Luigi Caselli


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Old May 25th 05, 03:30 PM
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Luigi Caselli wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" ha scritto nel messaggio
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Nature creates in pairs. For every action there is an equal action in
another direction. Inertia can become greater with more mass or greater
revolving speed of the same mass. Lets relate a white hole to a black
hole,as being relative to comparing an electron with a positron.(OK)
How can I put this all together and create reality out of it. White
holes and black holes explode in opposite directions White holes explode
outward,and black holes implode inward. White holes give to the space
gamma photons Black holes unleash their singularity. A white hole
has no singularity at its core. A black hole has squeezed its photons
into the singularity when imploding. White holes reach their critical
mass faster than black holes because they spin much faster. There are
as many white holes as there are flakes of snow in an endless storm.The
better we get at detecting them the more and more they be. Bert


Did you eat lots of Italian meat balls before posting this message?



And they're probably feeling rather "heavy" in his stomach after
theorizing about meatball-sized singularities!


We have lots of weird objects in the universe: black holes, pulsars,
gravastars, quark stars, dark energy stars, whatyouwant stars and you need
also white holes because you are a bit bored to have always the same boring
stars...

Before eating too much you said that GRB are caused by black holes when they
start a new universe and, even if weird, this is much more likely than white
holes...

Luigi Caselli



But then there's all the spaghetti.

Ah! String theory!

Double-A

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Old May 25th 05, 04:20 PM
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nightbat wrote

Double-A wrote:

Luigi Caselli wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" ha scritto nel messaggio
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Nature creates in pairs. For every action there is an equal action in
another direction. Inertia can become greater with more mass or greater
revolving speed of the same mass. Lets relate a white hole to a black
hole,as being relative to comparing an electron with a positron.(OK)
How can I put this all together and create reality out of it. White
holes and black holes explode in opposite directions White holes explode
outward,and black holes implode inward. White holes give to the space
gamma photons Black holes unleash their singularity. A white hole
has no singularity at its core. A black hole has squeezed its photons
into the singularity when imploding. White holes reach their critical
mass faster than black holes because they spin much faster. There are
as many white holes as there are flakes of snow in an endless storm.The
better we get at detecting them the more and more they be. Bert


Did you eat lots of Italian meat balls before posting this message?


And they're probably feeling rather "heavy" in his stomach after
theorizing about meatball-sized singularities!

We have lots of weird objects in the universe: black holes, pulsars,
gravastars, quark stars, dark energy stars, whatyouwant stars and you need
also white holes because you are a bit bored to have always the same boring
stars...

Before eating too much you said that GRB are caused by black holes when they
start a new universe and, even if weird, this is much more likely than white
holes...

Luigi Caselli



Double-A
But then there's all the spaghetti.

Ah! String theory!

Double-A


nightbat

I already addressed that Officer Double-A and Officer Bert
advised not to relate his sci fi based dart thrown theories to food
except to possible size of meatballs, peas, pasta, pizza, Mexican sweet
potato pies, sardines, glasses or bottles of Bud Light and boilermakers.
I stand respectfully helpful even though he makes us hungry and thirsty
for take out space food. (:~)

carry on,
the nightbat
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Old May 25th 05, 10:45 PM
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Hi Luigi Let me say I love Italian meat balls. Tonight I will have a
meat ball sub on Italian bread.Garlic Yes lots of cheese,and plenty
sauce Yes. I always posted nature creates in pairs,and does so
as part of her balancing act(yes) That to me means Black holes,and their
twin 'white' holes'. Why not? Naturally this is not in Google,and that
makes it not believable. It is not easy to give reality to an object
that can't be seen unless it explodes into gamma photons. I do the best
I can.I think people like my cooking better than my cosmological
theories. In reality its a matter of taste. Bert PS Got a call from
Kevin and the weather was 81 in Rome. He will be eating real Italian
food.

 




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