Mass due to intergalactic expansion

I understand that recent research has shown that galaxies are moving apart,
and gaining speed. Does this increase in speed mean that a given galaxy is
also gaining mass? If so, how long before a galaxy obtains c-1 and
"something" gives? Can this result in a big bang? Please explain
"something".
Dave

Dave wrote:
I understand that recent research has shown that galaxies are moving apart,
and gaining speed.

Observations made in the last ten years indicate the cosmic expension is
accelerating during the last several billions of years.



Does this increase in speed mean that a given galaxy is
also gaining mass?

No

Read Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html

WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html

WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html

Dave wrote:
I understand that recent research has shown that galaxies are moving apart,
and gaining speed. Does this increase in speed mean that a given galaxy is
also gaining mass?

No. You probably think of the effect of special relativity, that
things moving at high velocities have more mass (more inertia). But
the galaxies are essentially not really moving on their own - the
space between them is expanding, and therefore it appears as if they
were moving apart.

[snip]

Bye,
Bjoern

John Sefton wrote:


Bjoern Feuerbacher wrote:

Dave wrote:

I understand that recent research has shown that galaxies are moving
apart,
and gaining speed. Does this increase in speed mean that a given
galaxy is
also gaining mass?



No. You probably think of the effect of special relativity, that
things moving at high velocities have more mass (more inertia). But
the galaxies are essentially not really moving on their own - the
space between them is expanding, and therefore it appears as if they
were moving apart.

[snip]

Bye,
Bjoern

Or everything material
is gradually shrinking.

If you have a theory describing this which can make quantitative
predictions, agreeing with the observations, feel free to show your work.

Bye,
Bjoern

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:38:23 GMT, "Dave" wrote:

I understand that recent research has shown that galaxies are moving apart,
and gaining speed. Does this increase in speed mean that a given galaxy is
also gaining mass? If so, how long before a galaxy obtains c-1 and
"something" gives? Can this result in a big bang? Please explain
"something".
Dave

Universe is a chaotic place. Our nearest neighbor galaxy is on a
collision course with our home with impact predicted in about 5
million years.

vonroach wrote:


Universe is a chaotic place. Our nearest neighbor galaxy is on a
collision course with our home with impact predicted in about 5
million years.

billion, not million

ELECTRON PHOTON AND MASS MECHANICS
Copyright 1984 to 2004 Allen C. Goodrich

The first law of thermodynamics says that the total energy
of the universe is a constant.
The sum of kinetic and potential energies is a constant.
Kinetic and potential energies (of masses and charges)
only exist relative to the effective center of the rest of
the universe. It is not the equal and opposite gravitatiional
and centrifical forces that maintain the planets in their
orbits, it is the equal and opposite kinetic and potential
energies. An absence of force, acceleration .and energy
transfer is the key to the conservation of total energy.
This is the basis of the NEW QUANTUM MECHANICS.

m(2 pi L)^2/t^2 + G (M-m) m/L + e(2 pi L)^2/t^2 +
e^2/4 pi E_o L= A constant M .
From this equation the volumetric acceleration of e is
seen to be a function of relative mass energy density.
As L decreases the value of acceleration decreases.
Mass m can usually be neglected when charges exist.

Delta (change of) e(2 pi L)^2L/t^2 = Delta -e^2/4 pi E_o

Higher mass energy densities have lower volumetric
accelerations, lower volumetric velocities and
greater stabilities or life expectancies.
The electron and positron form from the high energy
gamma ray, only in the presence of the high energy
density proton or the atomic nucleus,
The electron exists as a mass energy particle only
at this high energy density.
Away from the nucleus it expands at roughly the speed
of light,with the rest of the universe, to the next
nearest atom that is in sympathy.
It resumes its particle nature only in the presence of
the atomic nucleus .Units of energy smaller than the
electron would not be expected to be stable, as mass
energy particles, in the presence of an atomic
nucleus.smaller than the proton.
YOUNG'S TWO SLIT EXPERIMENT
This experiment can only be understood if one realizes
that every particle, photon, atom, electron, planet or
mass energy unit exists only as a part of the entire
universe. The planet orbits the sun to conserve its total
kinetic and potential energy , a state of equilibrium.
Kinetic and potential energies are relative to the center
of mass energy of its relative effective universe.
The reason why it is difficult for physicists to understand
the two slit experiment is that they have not yet come
to realize the close relationship between the partuicle
and the rest of the universe,as indicated by the first law
of thermodynamics.
The rest of the universe is so important to the
photon, electron, atom and planets.They all move and
have their existance relative to the rest iof the universe.
The observer, the sensor the recorder become a part of
their effective universe. The kinetic and potential energies
of the particle are relative to the center of mass energy
density of this universe. ( Voila' QED and quantum
mechanics ). After the particle ( so called ) passes
the two slits , it travels a path dictated by its kinetic
and potential energies relative to the effective center
of mass energy of the rest of the universe. The result
is the defraction pattern on the next wall.The basic
problem of quantum mechanics has been solved.