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Old April 13th 04, 05:03 AM
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:38:45 -0600, "Carl R. Osterwald" wrote:

In article ,
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:13:37 GMT, "Bookman"
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Paranoid about Alex hua.

Nah. Why do you object to being called Alexa?

I don't, but it sure busts you in the chops, doesn't it.

Nope. But you sure get ****y when you are
called 'Alexa', Alexa. Why is that?


Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of


[bigsnip]

Well I'm convinced. This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that
Halliburton and DoE are hiding an alien disk at Groom Lake.



You spelled Lockheed wrong.
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Old April 13th 04, 05:08 AM
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:03:03 GMT, * wrote:

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Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of


[bigsnip]

Well I'm convinced. This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that
Halliburton and DoE are hiding an alien disk at Groom Lake.



You spelled Lockheed wrong.


Whore on Drugs
by George Szamuely
New York Press
8/29/00

Bill Clinton's one-day visit to Colombia this week encapsulates perfectly
his presidency: a pointless photo-op to sell a fraudulent bill of goods. He
is there ostensibly to express his confidence in Colombia's President Andres
Pastrana, whose fight against the narco-traffickers is being underwritten by
the United States to the tune of $1.3 billion. However, the idea of Colombia
getting out of the drug business is so patently absurd that not even
Clinton's coterie of obsequious toadies is buying this one. In the first
place, the Colombian military – to be armed and trained by the U.S. – are
the last people on Earth to allow a lucrative enterprise like narcotics slip
through their fingers.

In November 1998, a few weeks after Pastrana's visit to Washington to assure
Americans of his firm resolve to fight the scourge of drugs, the head of the
Colombian air force had to resign. The resignation followed the discovery of
over 1600 pounds of cocaine aboard a military transport plane that had just
arrived in Fort Lauderdale from Bogota. "This incident need have no effect
whatsoever on our views of President Pastrana's determination to work with
us to fight the export of drugs from Colombia," piped up little Jamie Rubin
of the State Dept. Of course not. Any more than the recent conviction of the
former commander of U.S. Army anti-drug advisers in Colombia, Col. James
Hiett, on charges of covering up his wife's drug smuggling, need have any
effect on our views of the seriousness of the U.S. commitment to wage war on
drugs.

The US. can spray with herbicides every field from the Gulf of Mexico to
Antarctica. But someone else will always be there to provide Americans with
their drug fix. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Myanmar – the list of candidates is
long.

No, the latest round in America's melodramatic "war on drugs" has nothing
whatsoever to do with drugs. It is about corporations with substantial
investments in Colombia lobbying the U.S. government to step in and take
over the country on their behalf. In Pastrana they have found a happily
compliant Colombian leader. Colombia is burdened with a large international
debt, which it must pay off with its oil exports. Pastrana has signed on to
the usual IMF austerity program of public spending cuts and devaluation. The
result has been misery, strikes and, naturally, a shot in the arm for the
narcotics industry. Colombia's economy shrank 4.5 percent in 1999. Earlier
this month, tanks and troops were called out to the streets of Bogota as
700,000 state workers staged a 24-hour strike protesting government
austerity measures.

But how did drugs get into the picture? It was the corporations that came up
with this wheeze. Lockheed Martin approached the Clinton administration with
a poll it had commissioned, showing a majority of the public believing drug
use to be on the rise, with Democrats, not Republicans, being held
responsible. Therefore, Democrats should do something dramatic. Lockheed
Martin's day job, incidentally, includes making aircraft for use in military
operations against drug smugglers. One of the most ardent advocates of
American military involvement in Colombia was the U.S.-Colombia Business
Partnership – which includes such corporations as Occidental, Enron, BP
Amoco and Colgate-Palmolive. Drugs are "disruptive of any normal business
relationship," explained Lawrence Meriage, Occidental's vice president for
public affairs. But what was really troubling him was the $100 million
Occidental has lost as a result of the repeated rebel assaults on the Limon
Covenas pipeline by various armed groups. Every year, the oil companies are
forced to shell out a "war tax," which they pay directly to the Colombian
army and police for their protection.

Earlier this month, Occidental suspended oil production and declared force
majeure at Colombia's second largest oil field because of repeated bombing
of the pipeline. In 1999 alone it had allegedly been attacked 79 times.
Clearly, they would be saving themselves a lot of money if the U.S.
government took over protecting the pipelines.

The Plan Colombia, allegedly a joint product of the U.S. and Colombian
governments, reads very much as if it were conceived and written in
Washington. It is full of the usual "market democracy" or "do what we tell
you or else" bromides: "Free trade agreements that attract foreign and
domestic investment"; "a fiscal and financial strategy that includes tough
austerity and adjustment measures"; "state-owned companies and banks are to
be privatized"; "foreign investment" will be "crucial in modernizing the
industrial backbone of the country"; "steps" must be taken "to promote a
favorable environment for electronic trade." The Plan gets hilarious when it
describes Colombia's economic plight. After first commending the country for
opening up "its traditionally closed economy," the author notes sorrowfully
that "production of cereals, such as wheat, corn, and barley…were shown to
be noncompetitive in world markets. The result was the loss of 700,000
hectares of agricultural production to imports during the decade, which in
turn proved to be a critical blow to employment in the rural areas where
Colombia's conflict is mainly staged."

Yes, but why had Colombia's traditional agriculture become so
"noncompetitive"? Could it possibly have something to do with the explosion
of subsidies afforded to U.S. farmers in recent years?

U.S. Special Forces trainers have already arrived in Colombia. Congress
conditioned the $1.3 billion package on the Colombian government's ability
to curb human rights abuses by its armed forces. Pastrana was made to
promise that military personnel accused of human rights abuses would be
brought to justice in the country's civilian courts. Of all the demands made
on his government, this is the one it will least likely be held to.

The U.S. has too much invested in Colombia to waste time chasing up "bad
apples." Even the recent murder of six schoolchildren by Colombian soldiers
did nothing to dampen Washington's enthusiasm for the venture. As always,
the wealth of the few trumps the welfare of the many.

http://www.antiwar.com/rep/szamuely/szamuely51.html



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Old April 13th 04, 05:12 AM
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:14:07 GMT, * wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:13:37 GMT, "Bookman"
wrote:


Paranoid about Alex hua.

Nah. Why do you object to being called Alexa?

I don't, but it sure busts you in the chops, doesn't it.


Nope. But you sure get ****y when you are
called 'Alexa', Alexa. Why is that?


Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of


THE BUSH-CHENEY DRUG EMPIRE

[Lead story in the October 24, 2000 issue of "From The Wilderness"]

by
Michael C. Ruppert


Ruppert is a k00k, too.
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Old April 13th 04, 05:42 AM
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:12:51 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:14:07 GMT, * wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:13:37 GMT, "Bookman"
wrote:


Paranoid about Alex hua.

Nah. Why do you object to being called Alexa?

I don't, but it sure busts you in the chops, doesn't it.

Nope. But you sure get ****y when you are
called 'Alexa', Alexa. Why is that?


Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of


THE BUSH-CHENEY DRUG EMPIRE

[Lead story in the October 24, 2000 issue of "From The Wilderness"]

by
Michael C. Ruppert


Ruppert is a k00k, too.


Like I said, kook belief is faith based, not fact based.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39397c4f5737.htm

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Old April 13th 04, 03:00 PM
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:42:05 GMT, * wrote in
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Like I said, kook belief is faith based, not fact based.


Whatever.
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