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Does anyone have a rundown of costs for launching a rocket into
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Heath Matlock wrote:
Does anyone have a rundown of costs for launching a rocket into space? Into orbit, or just into space? Pat |
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On Sep 22, 9:31*pm, Heath Matlock wrote:
Does anyone have a rundown of costs for launching a rocket into space? Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 The all-inclusive cost is top secret, because the public isn't ever supposed to know or realize what the honest birth to grave cost (including environment impact and those lucrative retirements with nifty benefits) is really all about. Of whatever is given out to the public media, as to the supposed cost per kg deployed, you can safely double or perhaps even triple that amount for the true all-inclusive cost that one way or another gets public funded. Government shell Pat Flannery is of course required to object and obfuscate on behalf of protecting the hand that feeds him, though perhaps even Pat doesn't know the actual need-to-know truth(s). Why should our mostly kosher infested government share this knowledge? If you were a public funded crook or a self made crook like Ponzi Madoff, would you tell us what the honest birth-to-grave (all- inclusive) cost actually is of your agency programs? Would you share all the necessary infrastructure, trial and errors plus whatever R&D failure cost that's unavoidably related? How about the cost of all those national and local archives plus museums? Don't forget all the tax avoidance factors of the annual billions in local property tax revenue that gets paid by others, because rightfully nothing of government operations or that of government funded research play hardly if any local property or sales tax. This means that private property and local sales tax is always kept that much higher for all the rest of us. ~ BG |
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![]() "Heath Matlock" wrote in message ... Does anyone have a rundown of costs for launching a rocket into space? It's all pretty proprietary. Jeff -- "Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National Lampoon |
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"Jeff Findley" wrote in message
... "Heath Matlock" wrote in message ... Does anyone have a rundown of costs for launching a rocket into space? It's all pretty proprietary. That said, if you Google you can find things like the price for various launchers and in some cases breakdowns for things like fuel costs. But there's no single resource I know of that's comprehensive and detailed and accurate. -- Greg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. |
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
But there's no single resource I know of that's comprehensive and detailed and accurate. Futron did some overall launch cost studies and price per kilogram to LEO and GEO studies from 1999-2000 he http://www.futron.com/pdf/resource_c...unchCostWP.pdf Pat |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:31:18 -0700 (PDT), Heath Matlock
wrote: Does anyone have a rundown of costs for launching a rocket into space? Its probably too fluid. A price you hear this year won't be the same as the one last year or next year, and if you buy more than one launch, you also get a different price. The military doesn't buy one launch at a time, so per-launch costs are basically a guess based on space budgets per year, but you get into complications if a payload isn't ready for launch in the year it was originally meant to fly (such as tomorrow's STSS flight, now something like two years behind schedule.) Commercial customers and launch providers don't often publicly reveal their costs, as shown here with SpaceX announcing a launch contract for Orbcomm but keeping mum on how much they get. http://www.spacex.com/press.php?page=20090903 About the only good ballpark figures we have are from NASA press releases, such as this one... http://www.moondaily.com/reports/NAS...vices_999.html ....which says an Atlas V could be bought for $136 million in 2006. Or this one... http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=23691 ....which says an Atlas V costs them $190 million in 2007. LRO was launched on an Atlas 401 and Juno will launch on an Atlas 551, which represent the low and high ends of the existing Atlas V family, so we have a range of $136-190 million per Atlas V launch as of two years ago. Avaition Week recently reported that the two US EELVs are priced about 10-15% above "what the market will bear", which may give us an indication of Ariane V, SeaLaunch (now on hiatus) and Proton launch costs. Brian |
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On Sep 22, 11:31*pm, Heath Matlock wrote:
Does anyone have a rundown of costs for launching a rocket into space? Heath Matlock +1 256 274 4225 I few weeks back I was searching on various launchers and ran across this site http://www.spaceandtech.com/spacedata/elvs/elvs.shtml Thou they do post a disclaimer: Note: Payload performance and estimated cost provided for information only. If you are interested in contracting for launch services, we recommend that you contact the service provider directly using the information above. But it should be good enough for some ball park BOTE calcs Just my $0.02 Space Cadet Moon Society - St. Louis Chapter http://www.moonsociety.org/chapters/stlouis/ There is only one (maybe 2) basic core reasons for humans to go beyond LEO, That is for the establishment of space settlements or a space based civilization. Everything else are details. Gary Gray 11/9/2005 |
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Keith Wetzel AKA Space Cadet wrote:
I few weeks back I was searching on various launchers and ran across this site http://www.spaceandtech.com/spacedata/elvs/elvs.shtml The site's info is way out of date, as note the page on the Avrora launch vehicle: http://www.spaceandtech.com/spacedat...rora_sum.shtml "Australia's Asia Pacific Space Centre (ASPC). APSC has joined with Rosviakosmos, RSC Energia, Samara Central Specialized Design Bureau and Progress Plant (TsSKB-Progress) and the Design Bureau of General Machine Building (KBOM). No technology or license on the production of rockets and spacecraft will be offered to the Australian partners. No Russian government funds will be invested in the venture. The Avrora flight tests will be launched from Baikonur Cosmodrome. The first commercial launch out of Australia’s Christmas Island is planned for the last quarter of 2003. After introduction, manufacturing and launch rates are projected to ramp up to as many as 15 launches per year by 2006." Never happened; no Avrora, no launch pad, no launches. Pat |
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