Superior limit to Universe extension

Hi to All,
concerning the universe extension is it possible to assume that the
maximum distance between two points in the Universe is
3.14*13.7billion light years?
Explanation:
in the earth the max distance between 2 points (e.g. north pole and
south pole) is one half the ring, i.e. 3.14*r (r=earth ray). In the
universe speed material cannot exceed the light one, so the universe
cannot have an extension higher than it's age, always travelling to
it's maximum speed... the light one...
What do you think about that?

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Hi to All,
concerning the universe extension is it possible to assume that the
maximum distance between two points in the Universe is
3.14*13.7billion light years?
Explanation:
in the earth the max distance between 2 points (e.g. north pole and
south pole) is one half the ring, i.e. 3.14*r (r=earth ray). In the
universe speed material cannot exceed the light one, so the universe
cannot have an extension higher than it's age, always travelling to
it's maximum speed... the light one...
What do you think about that?

That idea has been all but disproven. It's widely believed that the
universe expanded at much greater speeds than C when it was very
young.

Google universe inflation for more info, e.g.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_inflation

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| Hi to All,
| concerning the universe extension is it possible to assume that the
| maximum distance between two points in the Universe is
| 3.14*13.7billion light years?


No.


| Explanation:
| in the earth the max distance between 2 points (e.g. north pole and
| south pole) is one half the ring, i.e. 3.14*r (r=earth ray). In the
| universe speed material cannot exceed the light one, so the universe
| cannot have an extension higher than it's age, always travelling to
| it's maximum speed... the light one...
| What do you think about that?


It's a load of ridiculous baloney, the Universe is infinite in extent.

On 29 Giu, 12:34, "Androcles" wrote:
wrote in message

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| Hi to All,
| concerning the universe extension is it possible to assume that the
| maximum distance between two points in the Universe is
| 3.14*13.7billion light years?

No.

| Explanation:
| in the earth the max distance between 2 points (e.g. north pole and
| south pole) is one half the ring, i.e. 3.14*r (r=earth ray). In the
| universe speed material cannot exceed the light one, so the universe
| cannot have an extension higher than it's age, always travelling to
| it's maximum speed... the light one...
| What do you think about that?

It's a load of ridiculous baloney, the Universe is infinite in extent.

Consider that infinite is just a mathematical concept ... from a
physical point of view what does it mean infinite?
AFAUK, infinite is higher than 10 billion light year ... might be I
could agree...

On 29 Giu, 11:06, "nospam" wrote:
wrote in ...
Hi to All,
concerning the universe extension is it possible to assume that the
maximum distance between two points in the Universe is
3.14*13.7billion light years?
Explanation:
in the earth the max distance between 2 points (e.g. north pole and
south pole) is one half the ring, i.e. 3.14*r (r=earth ray). In the
universe speed material cannot exceed the light one, so the universe
cannot have an extension higher than it's age, always travelling to
it's maximum speed... the light one...
What do you think about that?

That idea has been all but disproven. *It's widely believed that the
universe expanded at much greater speeds than C when it was very
young.

Google universe inflation for more info, e.g.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_inflation

Thanks, that's sound good.
Unfortunately no speed limit monitoring probes that day :-)

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| On 29 Giu, 12:34, "Androcles" wrote:
| wrote in message
|
|
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| | Hi to All,
| | concerning the universe extension is it possible to assume that the
| | maximum distance between two points in the Universe is
| | 3.14*13.7billion light years?
|
| No.
|
| | Explanation:
| | in the earth the max distance between 2 points (e.g. north pole and
| | south pole) is one half the ring, i.e. 3.14*r (r=earth ray). In the
| | universe speed material cannot exceed the light one, so the universe
| | cannot have an extension higher than it's age, always travelling to
| | it's maximum speed... the light one...
| | What do you think about that?
|
| It's a load of ridiculous baloney, the Universe is infinite in extent.
|
| Consider that infinite is just a mathematical concept ... from a
| physical point of view what does it mean infinite?

Consider that infinite means what it means, goes on forever.
From a physical point of view that's what it means.
That you cannot grasp the idea and are rabbiting about light
and time (l = electromagnetic radiation, t = time) only shows
your mind is finite.

Look, if we have a finite universe around us then we can have
another one just like it twice as far away, and since "universe"
means all, everything, then that second one is part of the universe.

Your way of thinking is "what happens to a ship when it falls off
the edge of the world?" because you assume there is an edge.




| AFAUK, infinite is higher than 10 billion light year ...


might be I
| could agree...

Doesn't really matter, there are some things that are unknowable
and even if we did know them they don't affect us in any way.
Anyone can have an unprovable theory but what's the point?


|

Dear cestblu:

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concerning the universe extension is it possible
to assume that the maximum distance between
two points in the Universe is 3.14*13.7billion
light years?

No.
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html#DN

Explanation:
in the earth the max distance between 2 points
(e.g. north pole and south pole) is one half the
ring, i.e. 3.14*r (r=earth ray). In the universe
speed material cannot exceed the light one,

No.
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/co...y_faq.html#FTL
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html#MX

so the universe cannot have an extension
higher than it's age,

There appears to be no direct correlation between size and age.

always travelling to it's maximum speed... the
light one...

The local speed limit applies to kinetic motion. The Big Bang
was not an explosion, where stuff was blasted away from some
center. We can see in the direction we are moving away from, and
there is no glowing core of some sort of explosion.

What do you think about that?

You are at least thinking, and that is always good. You might
want to read he
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_01.htm
.... in four parts.

David A. Smith

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:34:51 +0100, "Androcles"
wrote:

It's a load of ridiculous baloney, the Universe is infinite in extent.

That is currently not testable, and may well never be testable. Current
theory is not complete enough to say with any certainty whether the
Universe is finite or infinite. The only proper, scientific answer is
that we have a good idea about the size of the observable Universe, and
that we don't know much about what lies beyond that.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:24:04 -0700, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"
wrote:

We can see in the direction we are moving away from, and
there is no glowing core of some sort of explosion.

Every direction we look is the direction we are moving away from. And we
do, in fact, see the glowing core of the Big Bang- it's called the
cosmic microwave background.

Of course, you're perfectly correct in pointing out that the Big Bang
wasn't an explosion in any real sense. Thinking of it as an explosion
has to be understood as an analogy, and can't be taken literally.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

On 29 Giu, 19:24, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" wrote:
Dear cestblu:

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concerning the universe extension is it possible
to assume that the maximum distance between
two points in the Universe is 3.14*13.7billion
light years?

No.http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html#DN

Explanation:
in the earth the max distance between 2 points
(e.g. north pole and south pole) is one half the
ring, i.e. 3.14*r (r=earth ray). In the universe
speed material cannot exceed the light one,

No.http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/co...gy_faq.html#MX

so the universe cannot have an extension
higher than it's age,

There appears to be no direct correlation between size and age.

always travelling to it's maximum speed... the
light one...

The local speed limit applies to kinetic motion. *The Big Bang
was not an explosion, where stuff was blasted away from some
center. *We can see in the direction we are moving away from, and
there is no glowing core of some sort of explosion.

What do you think about that?

You are at least thinking, and that is always good. *You might
want to read hehttp://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_01.htm
... in four parts.

David A. Smith

Thanks. A Very good link for finding answers to common FAQ.