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Old January 13th 04, 01:55 PM
Jon Isaacs
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Default Burgess 127?

Do you like, Jon, expand your expectations? If yes, read this
message from
Bill Burgess:


Right now, the wait has been so long that I don't I actually expect the 102F6
to ever arrive. When that happens, if it happens, I may expand my
expectations... g

jon
  #22  
Old January 13th 04, 01:55 PM
Jon Isaacs
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Default Burgess 127?

Do you like, Jon, expand your expectations? If yes, read this
message from
Bill Burgess:


Right now, the wait has been so long that I don't I actually expect the 102F6
to ever arrive. When that happens, if it happens, I may expand my
expectations... g

jon
  #23  
Old January 13th 04, 08:51 PM
Richard
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(Jon Isaacs) wrote in message ...
I have seen a couple of these Burgess 127 mm F-8 Achromats on Astromart.
The owners rave about the lack of color.
Has anyone out there used this
scope?


I have been waiting for almost a year for the Burgess Optical 102mm F6 scope
and have been following the Burgess Optical forum on Astromart.

This is my take:


(I suggest reading the astromart forum for Burgess Optical. It is essentially
open and unmoderated.)

Nobody is claiming color free performance. Some people were hoping for such a
miracle but these are just decent quality scopes, a cut above the Synta scopes
mechanically and optically they are collimated and adjusted.

Consider this: If these scopes were color free or had significantly less color
than other similar scopes, people wouldn't be selling them for $300.

Statements like "minimal color" are just nice ways of saying that the scope is
not color free, that there is observable false color.

Part of the mystic of the scopes being color free came when the original
prototypes of the 102F6 showed less color than expected. Then it was
discovered that one of the baffles was reducing the effective aperture to
around 80mm so that rather than being an 102mm F6 scope it was actually an 8mm
F7.5 scope with the reduced color as expected.


Huh! More slimy tactics by purveyors of cheap scopes trying to make them
out to be more than they are. Will it never end?
-Rich
  #24  
Old January 13th 04, 08:51 PM
Richard
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Default Burgess 127?

(Jon Isaacs) wrote in message ...
I have seen a couple of these Burgess 127 mm F-8 Achromats on Astromart.
The owners rave about the lack of color.
Has anyone out there used this
scope?


I have been waiting for almost a year for the Burgess Optical 102mm F6 scope
and have been following the Burgess Optical forum on Astromart.

This is my take:


(I suggest reading the astromart forum for Burgess Optical. It is essentially
open and unmoderated.)

Nobody is claiming color free performance. Some people were hoping for such a
miracle but these are just decent quality scopes, a cut above the Synta scopes
mechanically and optically they are collimated and adjusted.

Consider this: If these scopes were color free or had significantly less color
than other similar scopes, people wouldn't be selling them for $300.

Statements like "minimal color" are just nice ways of saying that the scope is
not color free, that there is observable false color.

Part of the mystic of the scopes being color free came when the original
prototypes of the 102F6 showed less color than expected. Then it was
discovered that one of the baffles was reducing the effective aperture to
around 80mm so that rather than being an 102mm F6 scope it was actually an 8mm
F7.5 scope with the reduced color as expected.


Huh! More slimy tactics by purveyors of cheap scopes trying to make them
out to be more than they are. Will it never end?
-Rich
  #25  
Old January 13th 04, 08:51 PM
Richard
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Default Burgess 127?

(Jon Isaacs) wrote in message ...
I have seen a couple of these Burgess 127 mm F-8 Achromats on Astromart.
The owners rave about the lack of color.
Has anyone out there used this
scope?


I have been waiting for almost a year for the Burgess Optical 102mm F6 scope
and have been following the Burgess Optical forum on Astromart.

This is my take:


(I suggest reading the astromart forum for Burgess Optical. It is essentially
open and unmoderated.)

Nobody is claiming color free performance. Some people were hoping for such a
miracle but these are just decent quality scopes, a cut above the Synta scopes
mechanically and optically they are collimated and adjusted.

Consider this: If these scopes were color free or had significantly less color
than other similar scopes, people wouldn't be selling them for $300.

Statements like "minimal color" are just nice ways of saying that the scope is
not color free, that there is observable false color.

Part of the mystic of the scopes being color free came when the original
prototypes of the 102F6 showed less color than expected. Then it was
discovered that one of the baffles was reducing the effective aperture to
around 80mm so that rather than being an 102mm F6 scope it was actually an 8mm
F7.5 scope with the reduced color as expected.


Huh! More slimy tactics by purveyors of cheap scopes trying to make them
out to be more than they are. Will it never end?
-Rich
  #26  
Old January 13th 04, 11:20 PM
Shawn Grant
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Default Burgess 127?

Thanks,
Bill
Burgess Optical
865-769-8777


If you look at your phone you will notice the 865 area code corresponds to
the letters vol. GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  #27  
Old January 13th 04, 11:20 PM
Shawn Grant
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Default Burgess 127?

Thanks,
Bill
Burgess Optical
865-769-8777


If you look at your phone you will notice the 865 area code corresponds to
the letters vol. GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  #28  
Old January 13th 04, 11:20 PM
Shawn Grant
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Default Burgess 127?

Thanks,
Bill
Burgess Optical
865-769-8777


If you look at your phone you will notice the 865 area code corresponds to
the letters vol. GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  #29  
Old January 14th 04, 02:04 AM
Bill Meyers
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Default Burgess 127?

Hello, Valery,
Somehow the Mikado comes to mind: " innocent merriment."
Clear skies,
Bill Meyers





More and more grandiose promises Bill strewing to the right and on the
left, upwards and downwards, gush forth!
Quite impressive! And I shoud note, that these 1026 are crippled with
promises
to fix or upgrade them somewhere in future. Of course, after
delivering these
new 9" APO, 11" and 16" Mak-cass.

LOLT!

V.D.


  #30  
Old January 14th 04, 02:04 AM
Bill Meyers
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Default Burgess 127?

Hello, Valery,
Somehow the Mikado comes to mind: " innocent merriment."
Clear skies,
Bill Meyers





More and more grandiose promises Bill strewing to the right and on the
left, upwards and downwards, gush forth!
Quite impressive! And I shoud note, that these 1026 are crippled with
promises
to fix or upgrade them somewhere in future. Of course, after
delivering these
new 9" APO, 11" and 16" Mak-cass.

LOLT!

V.D.


 




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