Experimental Car-Plane Crashes - Five Brilliant Americans DarwinedOut

On Jan 28, 6:34 pm, Einar wrote:

Now, as they believed that death is death, but that those who believe
will be resurrected at the end of times, and as early christians
believed that Jesus had thrown out the gates of heaven so that
believers in him go to heaven at once not on day of judgement meaning
that day of judgement is for others; the alternative to believing in
God or obeying God is then death - if one follows the original Jewish
believes and the early church believes. So hell = death.

This is probably not wrong in that as I understand it Hell was a
Jewish word for a shallow grave.

Now, since then believes in what happens, have evolved. But these as
far as I can see are the original versions.

But of course, in science, what people believe is usually only of
secondary importance. The key is always what are the data and what is
observed. I suspect that due to the Egyptian experience of the Jews,
they doubtless assimilated more than a few ideas of the early
Egyptians who appear to the first people to really try to study the
physics of death. Their conclusions which are still widely accepted by
mystics and churches today were that life exists in more than just
three dimensions. Your body and other possessions exist in these three
obvious dimensions, but there is evidence of the reality of a manifold
of more dimensions. In those dimensions there appears to exist sort of
duplicates of you physical body as well as you mind. Hence when the
physical body dies the other dimensional bodies go on animated by your
same mind which also exists in other dimensions apart from the
physical brain. All of this is what led Egyptians to have such an
emphasis on attempting to preserve the physical body on death through
mummification etc. Typically "science" denies the existence of such
ultra-dimensional structures. It takes the rather narrow view that
three dimensions are all there are and therefore the only logical
conclusion is that life-after-death (of the physical) is impossible.
Quite frankly there is MUCH evidence or at minimum HINTS that this
view is simply wrong. Physics is finally starting to begin to take
seriously the possibility of hyper-dimensionality. And of course once
you admit that, the whole can of worms is opened up. And of course all
this doesn't even begin to approach the effects of mind over matter as
it's called. The bottom line is that given an admission of the
possibility of a physical mind in communication with the higher-
dimensional "mind" of a person whose physical body has died, the
possible effects of so-called "prayer" certainly do not seem so
ridiculous.

What in hell was the question again?

On Jan 28, 8:23 pm, Benj wrote:
On Jan 28, 6:34 pm, Einar wrote:

Now, as they believed that death is death, but that those who believe
will be resurrected at the end of times, and as early christians
believed that Jesus had thrown out the gates of heaven so that
believers in him go to heaven at once not on day of judgement meaning
that day of judgement is for others; the alternative to believing in
God or obeying God is then death - if one follows the original Jewish
believes and the early church believes. So hell = death.

This is probably not wrong in that as I understand it Hell was a
Jewish word for a shallow grave.

Now, since then believes in what happens, have evolved. But these as
far as I can see are the original versions.

But of course, in science, what people believe is usually only of
secondary importance. The key is always what are the data and what is
observed. I suspect that due to the Egyptian experience of the Jews,
they doubtless assimilated more than a few ideas of the early
Egyptians who appear to the first people to really try to study the
physics of death. Their conclusions which are still widely accepted by
mystics and churches today were that life exists in more than just
three dimensions. Your body and other possessions exist in these three
obvious dimensions, but there is evidence of the reality of a manifold
of more dimensions. In those dimensions there appears to exist sort of
duplicates of you physical body as well as you mind. Hence when the
physical body dies the other dimensional bodies go on animated by your
same mind which also exists in other dimensions apart from the
physical brain. All of this is what led Egyptians to have such an
emphasis on attempting to preserve the physical body on death through
mummification etc. Typically "science" denies the existence of such
ultra-dimensional structures. It takes the rather narrow view that
three dimensions are all there are and therefore the only logical
conclusion is that life-after-death (of the physical) is impossible.
Quite frankly there is MUCH evidence or at minimum HINTS that this
view is simply wrong. Physics is finally starting to begin to take
seriously the possibility of hyper-dimensionality. And of course once
you admit that, the whole can of worms is opened up. And of course all
this doesn't even begin to approach the effects of mind over matter as
it's called. The bottom line is that given an admission of the
possibility of a physical mind in communication with the higher-
dimensional "mind" of a person whose physical body has died, the
possible effects of so-called "prayer" certainly do not seem so
ridiculous.

What in hell was the question again?

LOL, ok. The question is then about what kind of an universe we live
in. Now, string theorists tend to reckon with 9 dimensions, they
assume usually to be collapsed to a point. But, an alternative would
be that instead they are all around us, all 9 of them...it being just
that we are only equipped to sence in 3 dimensions, meaning that the
rest are simply invisible to us in the same way that a 3 dimension
would be invisible to a being living in a 2 dimensional existence.

Now, ghosts to name an example might be 3 dimesnional shadows of a 4
dimensional being/precense, being near us in space but invisible to
our 3 dimensional sences only its shadow being seen by us. Angels,
likewice might have a 4 dimensional exhistence, only being fleetilly
indirectly wisible in theyr shadow.

Perhaps all of exhistence has really existed forever, meaning there
are infinite 3 dimensional universes within the 4 dimension and they
moreover are forming all of the time. That would mean that all types
would exist and at all ages, both living and dead.

Perhaps dark matter is 4 dimensional matter, which structure can only
be perceived from a 4 dimensional perspective.

Einar

Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:11 am, kT wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/

American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.

Candidates for the Darwin Award.

Not really enough ingenuity involved to qualify. Looks like they went
for a wild ride down the runway at night, and failed to realise that at
that speed they couldn't stop within anything like the distance they
could see with the headlights.

To qualify for a Darwin Award, the candidate needs to engineer their own
death, not merely achieve it through stupidity.

Sylvia.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:23:22 +1100, in a place far, far away, Sylvia
Else made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:11 am, kT wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/

American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.

Candidates for the Darwin Award.

Not really enough ingenuity involved to qualify. Looks like they went
for a wild ride down the runway at night, and failed to realise that at
that speed they couldn't stop within anything like the distance they
could see with the headlights.

To qualify for a Darwin Award, the candidate needs to engineer their own
death, not merely achieve it through stupidity.

Not true. Stupidity is sufficient, if it's sufficiently stupid.

On Jan 29, 8:20*am, (Rand Simberg)
wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:23:22 +1100, in a place far, far away, Sylvia
Else made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:11 am, kT wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/

American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.

Candidates for the Darwin Award.

Not really enough ingenuity involved to qualify. Looks like they went
for a wild ride down the runway at night, and failed to realise that at
that speed they couldn't stop within anything like the distance they
could see with the headlights.

To qualify for a Darwin Award, the candidate needs to engineer their own
death, not merely achieve it through stupidity.

Not true. *Stupidity is sufficient, if it's sufficiently stupid.

And driving a car down an airplane runway at a way to fast speed
qualifies for engineering one's death.

"Sylvia Else" wrote in message u...
Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:11 am, kT wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/

American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.

Candidates for the Darwin Award.

Not really enough ingenuity involved to qualify. Looks like they went
for a wild ride down the runway at night, and failed to realise that at
that speed they couldn't stop within anything like the distance they
could see with the headlights.


He should've read the manual first and known how to use the
active cruise control radar, the head up display and infrared camera.
Just set the active cruise control to 155, then place both feet
....on the floor..and let the computers do the rest.

The long range far infrared camera extends the range of the adaptive headlights
from about 150 to 300 meters with the extra 150 meters displayed
on a 7 inch screen in the dash. At about 250-300 meters the radar
in the active cruise control would've spotted the embankment, began
displaying the embankment on the head up display, encased the object
in yellow once it's been locked on, then in red when it becomes
a collision threat. Once it has, a large red triangular collision warning
is flashed on the head up display, while calculating and automatically
applying the amount of braking, up to full lock, needed to slow to under
40 mph before returning control of the brakes and throttle
back to the driver.

In short, he should have known how to use the 'auto pilot'. He probably
would've stopped in time. All M-5s are speed limited to 155 mph so to
not exceed their capabilities. 250 to 300 meters should be enough
distance to stop from 155, as 60 to 0 is about 110 feet.

The kids supposedly snuck in, BMW thought about that too as the
night vision is kept disabled unless the headlights are on.









To qualify for a Darwin Award, the candidate needs to engineer their own
death, not merely achieve it through stupidity.

Sylvia.