Affordable local missions that’ll return investment

Venus facts and what-ifs, or perhaps it’s still don’t ask, don’t tell..

Besides all of the usual public funded and published data, plus loads
of media infomercial hype with nifty eye-candy that we are supposed to
accept in shock and awe without doubts, fear or remorse, there’s other
viable interpretations about our moon/Selene and Venus that may not be
so downright discouraging or nearly as insurmountable as you might
think.

Seems rather intellectually pathetic and otherwise downright odd that
so much of our mainstream media that’s offering us their science news
and public funded information can’t actively involve our own
physically dark as coal Selene/moon, or much less that of deductively
discussing Venus, as well as forbidden to share anything related to
the Sirius star system that could in any way link to our extensive
cosmological history of global ice-ages and subsequent warming trends,
that’s in addition to whatever we as careless and clueless humans have
only recently managed to pollute and otherwise contribute or bestow
upon our frail environment that has apparently gotten past the tipping
point of no return.

At least unlike the nearly always stone-cold, irradiated and
biologically dead/inert nature of Mars, the far less inert and
actively toasty planet Venus has its perfectly natural and more than
abundant forms of renewable energy to spare, and of its geothermal
active surface by rights shouldn’t be the least bit short or deprived
of any number of easily obtained raw elements.

I tend to believe that you wouldn’t even have to be half as smart as a
5th grade physics wizard in order to appreciate what nifty sorts of
renewable energy can be easily derived from a given atmospheric
density of 65 kg/m3, as having an unlimited supply of pressure
differential that’s worth 4+ bar(60 psi)/km, plus that near surface
atmospheric thermal differential of 10K(18F)/km that’s not even
specifically including whatever a natural geothermal forced gas vent
of seriously scorching hot co2 and S8 and h2o has to offer, much less
of whatever a geothermal driven fluid arch or that of gravity and
contour flows of various lava and magmatic/geo-excreted or geoplastic
flows of mostly thick silica muck should have to offer.

Unfortunately, for perhaps hundreds of millions of years Mars has had
darn little if any of this natural and renewable energy to draw upon,
and it’s nearly always too far away from our passive sun for much of
that IR energy to work its magic for other than the limited daytime of
the Mars equator tropics that otherwise more than freezes itself
colder than dry ice solid by night. Of getting our technology or
supplies safely onto Mars has been taking more than a decade and
costing us millions of our hard earned public dollars per kg. This
makes little old dyslexic me wonder why all the spendy and time
consuming Mars fuss, and otherwise why all the carefully orchestrated
avoidance of our extremely nearby and downright massive moon, plus
otherwise nearby Venus and even Sirius. It seems with Venus having
such local/renewable energy is where nearly all things become doable,
whereas without such local energy it gets downright discouraging if
not worse.

It’s also rather interesting in the many complex and otherwise subtle
ways that our public newsgroups have so often gotten summarily trashed
by the mainstream damage-control clowns, and obviously with little if
any policing effort by those capably in charge, exactly as though
there’s something dark and scary that has to be continually stalked,
disqualified or otherwise bashed and thoroughly banished from public
view by the likes of spooks and many other pretend-Atheists (aka
rabbis) that all seem to have the exact same killer bee swarm like
mindset, as for taking actions oddly based upon their supporting of
the Old Testament that tries to insist that all off-world matter is of
nothing more than inert eye-candy.

Getting ourselves past this rather obvious faith-based status quo
gauntlet of intellectual and science hate hasn’t been easy, much less
research productive. So, if you can stand the heat of this geothermal
driven kitchen of Venus, feel free to constructively contribute
whatever makes you a happy camper.

One thing for certain, with the planet Venus having been losing or
giving off 20.5 w/m2 more thermal energy than our sun contributes, and
otherwise having such a nifty solar reflective and otherwise robust
atmosphere, is clearly why Venus hasn't been getting itself any hotter
because of the solar influx. Thus far, it seems that Venus has only
been offering cooler near surface temperatures as getting reported by
way of each successive mission, not that numerous active lava and gas
venting hot spots are not in the process of creating or sustaining
more of that robust co2 and S8 saturated atmosphere that only offers a
few hundred teratonnes of h2o.

The surface terrain of Venus is in fact too humanly hot and nasty if
you are planning on exploring in the buff, as well as its thick
atmosphere not all that breathable and not even all that much cooler
by season of nighttime, although sufficiently elevated terrain and
towards either pole might get you as cool as 600 K (advisably still to
hot to safely **** on a hot rock).

However, if having been technically outfitted or best using a
composite rigid airship is where this toasty but nearly crystal dry
surface environment is not so humanly insurmountable, and because of
unlimited local energy is why your Venus habitat has no limits as to
its size or volume, and of however icy cold you’d like to keep that
habitat interior is not a problem for those of us at least half as
smart as a 5th grader.

In spite of all the usual mainstream gauntlet of denials, evidence
exclusions, perpetual nayism and outright intellectual plus scientific
bigotry that’s continually imposed against Venus, when it comes right
down to the positive/constrictive interpretation as to what the planet
has to offer, I honestly feel that I am having to become the alpha and
the omega as to whatever argument or deductive interpretation there is
about the planet Venus, as per having hosted other intelligent life,
be it of their own local evolution or via those of ETs makes little if
any difference in the way I’ve come to understand the greater common
good of this discovery. Terribly sorry if that kind of deductive
observationology interpretation offends your mindset.

Perhaps you can never have too many good or bad ideas, as even those
bad ones tend to eventually lead us down the better path of
understanding and discovery. The trick is not to make the same mistake
(s) or otherwise to cover up whatever previous errors in judgment or
actions.

Why can’t milliballoons filled with H2, along with using basalt fibers
and a reasonably good enough high temperature binders or merely that
of using metallic plasma applied coatings in thin layers in order to
create the sorts of sandwich composite material needed for these rigid
airships, as well as most other structural and infrastructure
requirements of surviving Venus?

HIGH TEMPERATURE INORGANIC BINDERS
http://www.aremco.com/PDFs/A11_06.pdf
Foam insulation: GLASS VS. CERAMIC MICROSPHERES
http://www.cumingcorp.com/pdf/OMAE2002.pdf
Metal Coating
http://www.anatechusa.com/Metal_Coating/default.html
Metallic Ceramic Coatings
http://www.amr-coatings.com/metallic_ceramic.html

With certain configurations of these milliballoons and fibers of
basalt it’s entirely possible to obtain an insulation coefficient of .
0009765 or that of R-1024 per m/m2, and perhaps a structural composite
version of R-512 or thermal transfer coefficient of .00195 per meter/
m2 that still doesn’t hardly weigh anything, but represents a great
deal of compressive and tensile strength without ever having to hardly
import a damn thing.

Only significant requirement for processing basalt into the likes of
such tough little H2 filled milliballoons and fibers of 4.84 GPa or
that of black diamond 490 GPa is that of energy, and Venus makes that
rather easy, not to mention the 0.9 gravity and what one can manage to
do with 65 kg/m3 buoyancy. Therefore, getting our technology safely
(no matters how robust and hefty) onto the surface of Venus shouldn’t
be 1% the problems of doing such with Mars.

To an intelligent species of ET (meaning us and anyone else half as
smart as a 5th grader), the planet Venus that comes to within 100 fold
the distance of our moon is a piece of cake, with lots of nifty
frostings and goodies under those thick/robust clouds. I’d swear that
SquarePants SpongBob or most anyone from Sesame Street has enough
LeapFrog smarts on order to accomplish Venus, so what exactly is wrong
with all the other supposedly smart clowns in our DARPA?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

By far the most affordable missions are of robotic, as not 0.1% as
spendy and/or as R&D time consuming as per human off-world
adventures. If anyone can see this as plain as day, it's BHO.

Thanks to our mostly republican Mafia, working our Moon and Venus via
robotics seems the only alternative that we can afford, if that much.

Too bad private investors are not willing to risk their own loot, as
not even Madoff had any intentions of sharing a Ponzi thin dime
outside of his own pockets. It seems the mostly Jewish financial
realm knows more of the truths than we're being officially informed
of, as otherwise our Selene/moon and the planet Venus wouldn't not
have been so ignored. Without hardly noticing, we've outsourced our
future.

~ BG


On Jan 29, 6:16*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:15*am, BradGuth wrote:

On Dec 29 2008, 11:05*am, BradGuth wrote:

Not like there’s any spare public loot to behold that isn’t already
borrowed from the past decade of utter incompetence, greed and Madoff
Ponzism. *Unlike our corrupt SEC and publicly funded bailouts that
primarily reward and benefit the failed and corrupted upper most 0.1%,
these nearby and thus somewhat local missions of off-world
explorations are perfectly capable of paying their own way, and then
some.

Our Selene/moon and Venus are each relatively local and affordably
doable, as well as operating within existing technology and at
reasonable risk.

Each of these missions should also be extensively robotic and take
advantage of their respective gateways, meaning the somewhat toasty
and irradiated Earth-Moon L1 and the otherwise relatively cool Venus
L2.

The final assault of our Selene/moon or that of the Venus surface
would demand a great deal of initial public funding. *However, once
accomplished is when the payback starts to show what good teamwork and
talent can deliver, as valuable materials and raw elements are
extracted, processed and exported back to Earth.

Now watch as the usual gauntlet of Usenet topic/author stalking and
bashings do all they can muster in order to clown up and otherwise
divert attention, and/or to punish this and any similar topics. *It
usually doesn’t take long, so you can safely hold your breath.

*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

Venus, The Forbidden Planet / Brad Guth

The mainstream forbidden planet of Venus is not for those of us intent
upon going to such off-worldly places in the buff, and otherwise as
mainstream dumbfounded past the point of no return isn’t all that
advisable. *You’ll need your deductive logic and wits about yourself,
and as always a degree of applied technology, but then we tend to do
that much right here on Earth whenever exploring terrestrial extremes
that are situated much above or below sea level, or while surviving
within other testy environments wherever it’s too hot, too cold, too
dry or too wet and otherwise too physically traumatic or toxic for our
frail DNA. *We even use the OveGlove so that we don’t burn the frail
skin off our hands when cooking or doing other hot kinds of work, like
glass blowing and forming that’s certainly much hotter than 735 K.

Surviving in the buff (meaning nude and without technology) there’s
but 5% of Earth’s surface area that’s year round humanly survivable,
and with seasonal migrations this might be pushed upwards of 10%,
meaning that 90+% of Earth was never all that humanly survivable, and
only made a whole lot worse yet as for going back in time.

In other words, to an advanced space traveling ET (eventually
including us humans), a wet and otherwise 90+% unlivable planet such
as Earth would likely not lokely have been on any short list.
However, a somewhat newish Venus as having been geologically active
and otherwise worthy of its mineralogy enticing, would likely be
enormously attractive, especially since 95+% of it’s surface could be
lived upon by those of us having a 5th grade or better education.

All this recent mainstream media hype and attention that’s given to
the ongoing search and recent discoveries of viable life capable
exoplanets, and eventually of their substantial moons, that by rights
should exist and thereby could possibly sustain complex DNA forms of
ET life, as for quite possibly offering something of sufficient
intelligence other than our familiar human species, is what seems more
than a little odd that Sirius-C of .06 solar mass and of whatever
substantial moons as of yet unobserved has been continually mainstream
excluded and otherwise systematically banished, and otherwise
especially weird when within our solar system are perfectly viable IG
(intelligent goldilocks) alternatives that even for those of us frail
and typically dumbfounded humans could with some degree of applied
technology make due as is.

Besides those perfectly interesting moons of Jupiter and Saturn that
by rights seem as though they should offer this ETIG hosting
potential, per se accommodating complex life as somewhat a whole lot
better off than anything Mars has recently had to offer as of the past
billion or more years ago (not to mention nearly zero if any life as
of today), whereas it seems we still have the robust atmospheric
environment and geologically active planet of Venus to reconsider.

Venus is definitely on the upper toasty side of what’s intelligently
doable. *Considering that Venus no longer has its moon for surface
crust morphing and subsequent tidal force contour/terrain shaping,
still far more geothermally alive and actively contributing to its
complex surface and robust atmosphere, is what gives this thermal
energy losing planet a likely 99+% fluid/molten interior, compared to
that of our 98.5% fluid interior that has been receiving the local
tidal radius force of 2e20 N/sec as for holding onto our Selene/moon,
towards keeping our planet a little extra heated from the inside out.

Besides my deductive observationology that’s interpreting many
unnatural features (meaning artificial and/or oddly rational
intelligent looking), what’s your subjective give or take on Venus?

*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

As hot and crazy as it may seem, apparently I’m not the only one that
has been taking a closer look-see at Venus, as having proposed methods
on behalf of our science instruments and even humans surviving Venus.
Clearly, wherever there’s a positive/constructive will, there’s a way
of getting safely to/from such a planet like Venus.

As of prior to my observationology having uncovered what deductively
looks so entirely ET artificial about Venus, it seems others during
the Magellan era and shortly thereafter have also been investing their
expertise, valuable time and otherwise limited resources towards
getting other Venus exploration missions underway. *Figuring in delays
and the usual cost overruns, the VGNP at $25M plus whatever fly-by-
rocket method of delivery would have been by way of Mars exploration
standards, relatively dirt cheap. (in 2010 dollars we speaking of
perhaps $100M + delivery, or roughly the amount our SEC and Madoff
were capable of stealing per day, that of our FEMA failing to perform
per day, or what a few hours in Iraq [excluding global inflation] has
been costing us)

Venus Geophysical Network Pathfinder: *A Discovery Workshop Mission
Proposal / Michael C. Malin

*http://www.msss.com/venus/vgnp/vgnp.txt.html
*“The Venus Geophysical Network Pathfinder (VGNP) mission proposes to
demonstrate, as a "proof-of-concept", the technology needed to emplace
a long-lived, global geophysical network on Venus.” (pay no attention
to the unusual substitution of the letter “o” in place of *“u” and a
few other dictation/translation errors)

Unlike the infowar and clearly disinformation gauntlet of intellectual
terrorism that Usenet/newsgroups has by in large having continually
represented itself by way of having excluded evidence, this next set
of external pages shows us that not nearly as much about Venus has
been that dead horse or even such a insurmountable task, so to speak.

Solar System Exploration Strategic Road Map and Venus Exploration /
March 16, 2005
*http://www.lpi.usra.edu/vexag/Venus_Roadmap.pdf

*http://www.geology.smu.edu/~dpa-www/venus.html

*http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AGUFM.P23E..06G

Venus facts and what-ifs, or perhaps mainstream don’t ask and don’t
tell.
Besides all of the usual public funded data and infomercial hype with
nifty eye-candy that we’re supposed to accept in shock and awe without
doubts, fear or remorse, there’s other viable interpretations about
our moon/Selene, Mars and Venus that might not be so downright
discouraging or nearly as insurmountable as you might think.

Where's that great all-American know how and wizardly physics
expertise hiding, and are we supposed to be afraid of the Zionist/Nazi
bogyman (aka rabbi whomever)?

There's sufficient observationology and deductive interpretations to
suggest other intelligent life has been existing/coexisting on Venus,
and for the most part your teachers, your parents, especially your
church and most all of their employers and government puppets have
been continually lying in order to keep this kind of information about
Venus covered up.

An Alternate View of Venus / by John Ackerman
*http://www.firmament-chaos.com/papers/fvenuspaper.pdf
At least unlike the nearly stone-cold, easily irradiated and
biologically dead Mars, the far less than inert planet Venus has its
perfectly natural and more than abundant forms of renewable energy to
spare. *Its geothermal active surface by rights shouldn’t be the least
bit short or deprived of any number of easily extracted raw elements
(including its continually venting of water), and thereby is most
likely getting mined for precious metals and rare elements.

You don’t even have to be half as smart as a 5th grade physics wizard
in order to appreciate what nifty sorts of renewable energy can be
easily derived from a given atmospheric density of 65 kg/m3, as having
such terrific buoyancy along with an unlimited supply of pressure
differential that’s worth 4+ bar(60 psi)/km, plus that near surface
thermal differential of 10 (18F)/km that’s not even specifically
including whatever a natural geothermal forced gas vent of seriously
scorching hot co2, S8 and h2o has to offer, much less of whatever a
nearby fluid arch or contours from various lava and magmatic/geo-
excreted or geoplastic flows of mostly thick silica muck should have
to offer.

With such a vibrant and renewable supply of local energy, plus having
an unlimited supply of mineral resources from a planet that’s losing
such a great deal of it’s core of thermal energy, what exactly isn’t
doable?

*Is it a solar roasted to death greenhouse environment? (not actually,
unless you do not believe in the regular laws of physics and the best
available science)

*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Jan 29, 6:15*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 29 2008, 11:05*am, BradGuth wrote:



Not like there’s any spare public loot to behold that isn’t already
borrowed from the past decade of utter incompetence, greed and Madoff
Ponzism. *Unlike our corrupt SEC and publicly funded bailouts that
primarily reward and benefit the failed and corrupted upper most 0.1%,
these nearby and thus somewhat local missions of off-world
explorations are perfectly capable of paying their own way, and then
some.

Our Selene/moon andVenusare each relatively local and affordably
doable, as well as operating within existing technology and at
reasonable risk.

Each of these missions should also be extensively robotic and take
advantage of their respective gateways, meaning the somewhat toasty
and irradiated Earth-Moon L1 and the otherwise relatively coolVenus
L2.

The final assault of our Selene/moon or that of theVenussurface
would demand a great deal of initial public funding. *However, once
accomplished is when the payback starts to show what good teamwork and
talent can deliver, as valuable materials and raw elements are
extracted, processed and exported back to Earth.

Now watch as the usual gauntlet of Usenet topic/author stalking and
bashings do all they can muster in order to clown up and otherwise
divert attention, and/or to punish this and any similar topics. *It
usually doesn’t take long, so you can safely hold your breath.

*~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG / “GuthUsenet”

Venus, The Forbidden Planet / BradGuth

The mainstream forbidden planet ofVenusis not for those of us intent
upon going to such off-worldly places in the buff, and otherwise as
mainstream dumbfounded past the point of no return isn’t all that
advisable. *You’ll need your deductive logic and wits about yourself,
and as always a degree of applied technology, but then we tend to do
that much right here on Earth whenever exploring terrestrial extremes
that are situated much above or below sea level, or while surviving
within other testy environments wherever it’s too hot, too cold, too
dry or too wet and otherwise too physically traumatic or toxic for our
frail DNA. *We even use the OveGlove so that we don’t burn the frail
skin off our hands when cooking or doing other hot kinds of work, like
glass blowing and forming that’s certainly much hotter than 735 K.

Surviving in the buff (meaning nude and without technology) there’s
but 5% of Earth’s surface area that’s year round humanly survivable,
and with seasonal migrations this might be pushed upwards of 10%,
meaning that 90+% of Earth was never all that humanly survivable, and
only made a whole lot worse yet as for going back in time.

In other words, to an advanced space traveling ET (eventually
including us humans), a wet and otherwise 90+% unlivable planet such
as Earth would likely not lokely have been on any short list.
However, a somewhat newishVenusas having been geologically active
and otherwise worthy of its mineralogy enticing, would likely be
enormously attractive, especially since 95+% of it’s surface could be
lived upon by those of us having a 5th grade or better education.

All this recent mainstream media hype and attention that’s given to
the ongoing search and recent discoveries of viable life capable
exoplanets, and eventually of their substantial moons, that by rights
should exist and thereby could possibly sustain complex DNA forms of
ET life, as for quite possibly offering something of sufficient
intelligence other than our familiar human species, is what seems more
than a little odd that Sirius-C of .06 solar mass and of whatever
substantial moons as of yet unobserved has been continually mainstream
excluded and otherwise systematically banished, and otherwise
especially weird when within our solar system are perfectly viable IG
(intelligent goldilocks) alternatives that even for those of us frail
and typically dumbfounded humans could with some degree of applied
technology make due as is.

Besides those perfectly interesting moons of Jupiter and Saturn that
by rights seem as though they should offer this ETIG hosting
potential, per se accommodating complex life as somewhat a whole lot
better off than anything Mars has recently had to offer as of the past
billion or more years ago (not to mention nearly zero if any life as
of today), whereas it seems we still have the robust atmospheric
environment and geologically active planet ofVenusto reconsider.

Venusis definitely on the upper toasty side of what’s intelligently
doable. *Considering thatVenusno longer has its moon for surface
crust morphing and subsequent tidal force contour/terrain shaping,
still far more geothermally alive and actively contributing to its
complex surface and robust atmosphere, is what gives this thermal
energy losing planet a likely 99+% fluid/molten interior, compared to
that of our 98.5% fluid interior that has been receiving the local
tidal radius force of 2e20 N/sec as for holding onto our Selene/moon,
towards keeping our planet a little extra heated from the inside out.

Besides my deductive observationology that’s interpreting many
unnatural features (meaning artificial and/or oddly rational
intelligent looking), what’s your subjective give or take onVenus?

*~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG / “GuthUsenet”

Just wondering, what's so dark and scary about the planet Venus?

What's so downright insurmountable about the planet Venus?

Venus Geophysical Network Pathfinder: A Discovery Workshop Mission
Proposal / Michael C. Malin

http://www.msss.com/venus/vgnp/vgnp.txt.html
“The Venus Geophysical Network Pathfinder (VGNP) mission proposes to
demonstrate, as a "proof-of-concept", the technology needed to emplace
a long-lived, global geophysical network on Venus.”

~ BG

On Feb 3, 6:24*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:15*am, BradGuth wrote:



On Dec 29 2008, 11:05*am, BradGuth wrote:

Not like there’s any spare public loot to behold that isn’t already
borrowed from the past decade of utter incompetence, greed and Madoff
Ponzism. *Unlike our corrupt SEC and publicly funded bailouts that
primarily reward and benefit the failed and corrupted upper most 0.1%,
these nearby and thus somewhat local missions of off-world
explorations are perfectly capable of paying their own way, and then
some.

Our Selene/moon andVenusare each relatively local and affordably
doable, as well as operating within existing technology and at
reasonable risk.

Each of these missions should also be extensively robotic and take
advantage of their respective gateways, meaning the somewhat toasty
and irradiated Earth-Moon L1 and the otherwise relatively coolVenus
L2.

The final assault of our Selene/moon or that of theVenussurface
would demand a great deal of initial public funding. *However, once
accomplished is when the payback starts to show what good teamwork and
talent can deliver, as valuable materials and raw elements are
extracted, processed and exported back to Earth.

Now watch as the usual gauntlet of Usenet topic/author stalking and
bashings do all they can muster in order to clown up and otherwise
divert attention, and/or to punish this and any similar topics. *It
usually doesn’t take long, so you can safely hold your breath.

*~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG / “GuthUsenet”

Venus, The Forbidden Planet / BradGuth

The mainstream forbidden planet ofVenusis not for those of us intent
upon going to such off-worldly places in the buff, and otherwise as
mainstream dumbfounded past the point of no return isn’t all that
advisable. *You’ll need your deductive logic and wits about yourself,
and as always a degree of applied technology, but then we tend to do
that much right here on Earth whenever exploring terrestrial extremes
that are situated much above or below sea level, or while surviving
within other testy environments wherever it’s too hot, too cold, too
dry or too wet and otherwise too physically traumatic or toxic for our
frail DNA. *We even use the OveGlove so that we don’t burn the frail
skin off our hands when cooking or doing other hot kinds of work, like
glass blowing and forming that’s certainly much hotter than 735 K.

Surviving in the buff (meaning nude and without technology) there’s
but 5% of Earth’s surface area that’s year round humanly survivable,
and with seasonal migrations this might be pushed upwards of 10%,
meaning that 90+% of Earth was never all that humanly survivable, and
only made a whole lot worse yet as for going back in time.

In other words, to an advanced space traveling ET (eventually
including us humans), a wet and otherwise 90+% unlivable planet such
as Earth would likely not lokely have been on any short list.
However, a somewhat newishVenusas having been geologically active
and otherwise worthy of its mineralogy enticing, would likely be
enormously attractive, especially since 95+% of it’s surface could be
lived upon by those of us having a 5th grade or better education.

All this recent mainstream media hype and attention that’s given to
the ongoing search and recent discoveries of viable life capable
exoplanets, and eventually of their substantial moons, that by rights
should exist and thereby could possibly sustain complex DNA forms of
ET life, as for quite possibly offering something of sufficient
intelligence other than our familiar human species, is what seems more
than a little odd that Sirius-C of .06 solar mass and of whatever
substantial moons as of yet unobserved has been continually mainstream
excluded and otherwise systematically banished, and otherwise
especially weird when within our solar system are perfectly viable IG
(intelligent goldilocks) alternatives that even for those of us frail
and typically dumbfounded humans could with some degree of applied
technology make due as is.

Besides those perfectly interesting moons of Jupiter and Saturn that
by rights seem as though they should offer this ETIG hosting
potential, per se accommodating complex life as somewhat a whole lot
better off than anything Mars has recently had to offer as of the past
billion or more years ago (not to mention nearly zero if any life as
of today), whereas it seems we still have the robust atmospheric
environment and geologically active planet ofVenusto reconsider.

Venusis definitely on the upper toasty side of what’s intelligently
doable. *Considering thatVenusno longer has its moon for surface
crust morphing and subsequent tidal force contour/terrain shaping,
still far more geothermally alive and actively contributing to its
complex surface and robust atmosphere, is what gives this thermal
energy losing planet a likely 99+% fluid/molten interior, compared to
that of our 98.5% fluid interior that has been receiving the local
tidal radius force of 2e20 N/sec as for holding onto our Selene/moon,
towards keeping our planet a little extra heated from the inside out.

Besides my deductive observationology that’s interpreting many
unnatural features (meaning artificial and/or oddly rational
intelligent looking), what’s your subjective give or take onVenus?

*~ BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth BG / “GuthUsenet”

Just wondering, what's so dark and scary about the planetVenus?

What's so downright insurmountable about the planetVenus?

VenusGeophysical Network Pathfinder: *A Discovery Workshop Mission
Proposal / Michael C. Malin

*http://www.msss.com/venus/vgnp/vgnp.txt.html
*“TheVenusGeophysical Network Pathfinder (VGNP) mission proposes to
demonstrate, as a "proof-of-concept", the technology needed to emplace
a long-lived, global geophysical network onVenus.”

*~ BG

Interesting in how taboo/nondisclosure rated the planet Venus has
become. It's almost exactly as though our NASA and their DARPA puppet
masters have something to hide.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

On the topic of cheap missions; The planet Venus is likely as close
to that of an early Earth as we’re going to get.

Besides all of the usual considerations that should offer deductive
interpretations, as subjectively looking as though highly suspicious
of Venus having complex structures created by whatever local or
imported/visiting ETs, as for this image representing the intelligent/
rational content that’s depicting a complex community of rational
infrastructure, there’s also any number of those natural local
surroundings of extremely interesting features that seem geologically
recent and/or active, by themselves worthy of our exploring for the
pure sake of having better geological and mineralogy knowledge of
Venus.

In the raw 75 m/pixel format, as representing the best of what our
Magellan mission accomplished, you've got merely 4 radar looks per
pixel to work with. However, in the 225 m/pixel GIF composite format
(as listed below) is where that same radar obtained pixel information
becomes worth 36 confirming/averaging looks per pixel, and thereby of
less than ideal resolution but otherwise far more pixel truthworthy.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif

A new and improved radar mapping mission within existing technology,
using a conventional satellite capable deployment, could cut that
resolution down by a factor of 10 fold, making the exact same 36 look/
pixel composite GIF image worth 22.5 meters before digital image
resampling/enlarging. Nowadays, a rigid airship mission that would
cruise safely and efficiently below those acidic clouds could give us
better than one meter/pixel in radar format, and otherwise easily
provide cm or 10 mm/pixel in CCD optical format.

~ BG