An Attractive Proposition -

Painius wrote, replying to Bert,

Since matter does not really generate
gravity, then any possible change in the
gravity of a mass would be felt instantly
by all the other masses within its gravity
well.

Well, here we gotta parse this a little bit more. A "change in the
gravity" would amount to an "information packet", which could only
propagate as a *gravitational wave* which is limited to c. Thus it
wouldn't be 'quite instant' compared to the speed of charge which *is*
"in instantaneity" at all levels of the gravity well.
This 'not quite instant' information transfer would be
analogous to the slight lag when you open the faucet, due to the speed
of sound in water.. or the slight lag when you flip the lightwstich, due
to speed of electric charge in the wires being slightly less than c.
('Member from your electronics instructor days, 'velocity factor' in the
wire being somewhere around .77c depending on the material.)

Since matter does not generate gravity,
there is no need to see anything emitted
from a mass traveling at any speed.
There is no violation of lightspeed in this.
Correctomente and right on!

The gravitic charge appears instant
because the flow of space is a little like
the water in the hose.

'Cept minus the little lag of the water in the hose when you crack the
faucet on.

Painius Email me and I will show you a picture proving time laps. Yes I
do use water because it is non compressible,and should transmit energy
what you and oc think is instantaneous. Alternating current has
electrons moving back and forth 60 times a second,and yet your thinking
has it as a continuos flow. Your thinking you will prove by showing a
light bulb with its steady stream of photons. TreBert This lap pulse
time picture was shown at MIT at its Strobe lab. Yes I did meet the
inventor of the strobe,at the Boston YMCA. (Eddington). Did show my fast
pictures at EG&G in Wellesley Ma

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote...
in message ...

Painius Email me and I will show you a picture proving time laps. Yes I
do use water because it is non compressible,and should transmit energy
what you and oc think is instantaneous. Alternating current has
electrons moving back and forth 60 times a second,and yet your thinking
has it as a continuos flow. Your thinking you will prove by showing a
light bulb with its steady stream of photons. TreBert This lap pulse
time picture was shown at MIT at its Strobe lab. Yes I did meet the
inventor of the strobe,at the Boston YMCA. (Eddington). Did show my fast
pictures at EG&G in Wellesley Ma

Bert, i'd love to see the picture you describe. And
you get complimentary kudos on your "picture-
posting restraint". You haven't posted an image
here for a very long time, and i thank you for that.

In my previous post and description, i just wanted to
keep it simple, so i used a direct-current (DC) setup
rather than an alternating-current (AC) setup. But
as oc explained, the principle is the same. Instead
of the electrons flowing very slowly in one direction
through the wire, they move back and forth at a very
slow speed, and yet the "charge" moves back and
forth instantaneously and at a standard frequency
of 60 Hertz (cycles per second, cps) in the US.

I used Thomas Edison's DC because the electron
movement was a bit similar to the movement of the
water molecules in the hose.

You are by all means correct, though, thanks to
George Westinghouse and to Nikola Tesla!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla

happy new days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

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to foster its renewal, is our only legitimate
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"oldcoot" wrote in message...
...

. . .
('Member from your electronics instructor days, 'velocity factor' in the
wire being somewhere around .77c depending on the material.) . . .

Augh! It sometimes seems like *eons* ago. g

happy new days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: "To cherish what remains of the Earth, and
to foster its renewal, is our only legitimate
hope of survival." Wendell Berry

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http://garden-of-ebooks.blogspot.com
http://painellsworth.net

Painius I stopped posting pictures when I found out it was wrong to do.
No thank you needed. Still a picture is worth a 1,000 words. This
inertia time lapse picture I have shown around the world. Sent it out
again this morning to the UK big name university All has a time
laps,even an H bomb and the big bang TreBert

**** OFF, LIAR BEERTbrain! lmfjao!

You are a SENILE, OLD FART!

Where's your Nobel? Have you read any of my papers yet? Where's my
cite to those 2 BIG meteorites hitting Antarctica?

You ARE a SENILE, OLD FART!

Saul Levy


On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:35:35 -0500, (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:

Cactus Saul Those that read my posts have great wit,and understand where
I am coming from. My thinking is well over your witless head and that is
why you keep posting you can not understand me. go figure Proof of
this is your use of name calling Using hurtful terms. Swear words etc.
TreBert