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Yo Paine
Well, your respondant "Carson" is to be commended for civility and decorum at least, without resorting to the usual tourettes-like "BWAHAHA..." outbursts. :-) But he studiously still avoids any cogent response to the SHQ 'Litmus Test' of any viable theory of gravitation. To wit, what very real mechanism and very real FORCE literally powers the supermassive BH engine of a quasar? What very real mechanism and FORCE powers the catastrophic inward collapse of a star when its core fusion shuts off at iron? What very real mechansim and FORCE contains the Sun's mass against the expansive force of core fusion thoughout the Sun's stable main sequence? If your respondant is willing to address this head-on, then and only then is there any basis for further discourse with him. But seein' as how you're bent on attempting dialog anyhow, what the hell. To address one of his points : 1. GR never states that a "bent nothing" is the cause of gravity. It states that "bent space-time" is the cause of gravity. When Uncle Albert kicked out the "aether", something had to substitute for it. The mathematical abstraction "space-time" became the surrogate and euphamism for the spatial medium, the very real 'Something' whose existance was suddenly and capriciously denied after having been a no-brainer from antiquity. "The Math" became the surrogate for the reality; "The Map" for the territory, "The schematic" for the radio, "The blueprint" for the building. But this is not to denigrate the *predictive power* of the math itself, which has proven itself correct up to now within GR's purview. The Lorentzian concept of a 'rigid, immobile' "aether" was kicked out and rightly so. But instead of following the logical course of further investigating a dynamic, highly mobile Fluid medium that's compressible/expansible and amenable to ****density gradients****, the baby was thrown out with the bathwater. That singular act of pure caprice and fiat, as long as it remains in force, eliminates doing the necessary Upgrade of GR from its present 'flat' status. I'm gonna knock off here for brevity, but just for the hell of it will address some of your respondant's other points later. |
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