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On Mar 10, 6:45 pm, wrote:
Brad Guth wrote: "How many lies per tonne does it take, per each tonne safely deployed onto our moon? ....How many extra lies per tonne does it take for whatever's getting returned to Earth? " "Lies per tonne?" Do I sense something tongue-in-cheek, here? :-) You figure out the fly-by-rocket performance of our trust old Saturn-V that never once failed us, and report back. As otherwise it took a good many lies getting nearly 50 tonnes past the moon's L1 so quickly. Also: "Come to think about it, we still haven't squat worth of anything as interactively station-keeping within the moon's L1. Isn't that downright pathetic, or what?" I feel it is kind of pathetic that we did not stick with lunar and solar system exploration, earlier. Project NERVA demonstrated the usefulness of even crude nuclear propulsion (also, see posts about Orion Project and Daedalus). But we didn't need nuclear to beat the Russians to the moon, so that was dropped. JFK's moon speech included reference to the other planets; that was just forgotten. Much of JFK was forgotten because it only made us think outside the box, and to otherwise deductively interpret science for the better of whatever this off-world obtained science had to offer. Folks in charge of our private parts and most of our hard earned loot, as such do not like us village idiots thinking or much less interpreting science for ourselves. BTW, the Google X-prize will likely become the first of interactive robotics on our moon that didn't utilize the semi-hard impact method of getting stuff one-way deployed onto our physically dark and electrostatic dusty moon. The space elevator and CNT and the current plans for the Moon and Mars are all very welcome, to me! Antimatter is a long term goal. My point was that both energy and material exist for expanding civilization to other worlds. The Earth Space Elevator (ESE) fiasco isn't going to fly anytime soon, but the Lunar Space Elevator (LSE-CM/ISS) can be accomplished within existing technology, or otherwise if need be a Clarke Station can be established, except that Venus L2 would be a whole lot better for a station-keeping platform than roasting within our moon's L1. .. - Brad Guth |
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