How Old is our Universe?

The current data supports a value just less than 14 billion years. That
age is sufficient to encompass observations made so far.

Is those 14 billion years calculated with regard to the effects of
gravity and curved spacetime upon the lightspeed?

You do know that even the light is subjected to the effects of
gravity? Einstein even said so himself.

You don't need any mass to be subjected, if the spacetime continuum
itself is curved.

wrote:
The current data supports a value just less than 14 billion years. That
age is sufficient to encompass observations made so far.


Is those 14 billion years calculated with regard to the effects of
gravity and curved spacetime upon the lightspeed?

You do know that even the light is subjected to the effects of
gravity? Einstein even said so himself.

You don't need any mass to be subjected, if the spacetime continuum
itself is curved.


The value is derived from observations by people more knowledgeable in
this stuff than you can even approach.

The value is derived from observations by people more knowledgeable in
this stuff than you can even approach.

That is not an answer to my questions. I have never seen any
difference is the measurment of the lightspeed due to gravitational
influence by your scientists.

But I have seen what your scientists claim to be empirical proof on
that time flows slower with increased gravitational influence.

If that is true, then the lightspeed must also decrease with
increased gravitational influence.

On Jun 17, 5:17 am, wrote:
The value is derived from observations by people more knowledgeable in
this stuff than you can even approach.

That is not an answer to my questions. I have never seen any
difference is the measurment of the lightspeed due to gravitational
influence by your scientists.

But I have seen what your scientists claim to be empirical proof on
that time flows slower with increased gravitational influence.

If that is true, then the lightspeed must also decrease with
increased gravitational influence.


Yes.

http://www.geocities.com/newastronomy/animate.htm

Double-A

Double-A Photons never change speed. The sun gives them a curved
path,and we are confusing this greater distance with saying they slowed
down. Light has a constant speed never changing speed even when passing
through glass or super cold sodium Photons never bounce and my "Spin is
in theory" gives the best thinking of reflection bert

On Jun 17, 6:19 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Double-A Photons never change speed. The sun gives them a curved
path,and we are confusing this greater distance with saying they slowed
down. Light has a constant speed never changing speed even when passing
through glass or super cold sodium Photons never bounce and my "Spin is
in theory" gives the best thinking of reflection bert


"In the second place our result shows that, according to the general
theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of
light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental
assumptions in the special theory of relativity and to which we have
already frequently referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A
curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of
propagation of light varies with position. Now we might think that as
a consequence of this, the special theory of relativity and with it
the whole theory of relativity would be laid in the dust. But in
reality this is not the case. We can only conclude that the special
theory of relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain of validity; its
result hold only so long as we are able to disregard the influences of
gravitational fields on the phenomena (e.g. of light)."

- Albert Einstein

Double-A Lots of things that happen in my spacetime make me smarter than
Einstein. Poor guy never had a Cern accelerator. Never had a Hubble.etc
I'm smart enough to go beyond relativity's SR and GR. I have thought
about physics longer and harder than Einstein. bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Double-A Photons never change speed. The sun gives them a curved
path,and we are confusing this greater distance with saying they slowed
down. Light has a constant speed never changing speed even when passing
through glass or super cold sodium Photons never bounce and my "Spin is
in theory" gives the best thinking of reflection bert


You are wrong again, but thanks for playing. Not only does it slow in
glass, it has been slowed to a near walking pace based on recent
experiments.

Scott In Cambridge Mass. super cold sodium had photons measured speed
at 3mph. I'm sure you will tell us how it got back to 'c'?? bert

Zan The speed of photons is 186,282 mps. If they come out of a great
gravitational object this does not alter their speed. It does lengthen
their wave. This does make measuring the red shift for aging tricky.
bert