COLLECTIVE INSANITY

Jonathan wrote:


Normal, morality or truth changes from one place or person to another.
So truth is contextual, or subjective. Our science holds the opposite is
true.
Equations that work as well backwards in time as forward, even
though in nature that never happens. Universal laws or constants
that never changes, even though in nature nothing remains
constant or ever exactly repeats.

So how are we to know what is true, or good?



Want to give me a little personal insight of where you stand, and what
you think about it?
You do it, and I'll give you a little personal insight of where I stand,
and what I think about it.

Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Jonathan wrote:


Normal, morality or truth changes from one place or person to another.
So truth is contextual, or subjective. Our science holds the opposite is
true.
Equations that work as well backwards in time as forward, even
though in nature that never happens. Universal laws or constants
that never changes, even though in nature nothing remains
constant or ever exactly repeats.

So how are we to know what is true, or good?



Want to give me a little personal insight of where you stand, and what
you think about it?
You do it, and I'll give you a little personal insight of where I stand,
and what I think about it.


I believe good or evil is defined relative to how close or far
a system is from natural. If a society displays properties
close to a naturally evolving system then it's better
than one that is non adaptive. Such as a dictatorship.
It's why I have an unending belief in democracy as
a way of creating a better future. And believe dictatorships
of any kind define evil. Look at the last century, one
dictatorship after another brought us one war after
another. And this century the religious extremists, just
another type of dictatorship, is doing the same thing.

Since nature is constantly evolving or changing over
time, then good and evil also change over time.
Good and evil, or even truth then become essentially
dependent on fitness. Dependent on Darwinian
concepts. I firmly believe the universe, or reality
is understood through the processes of life.

That our fundamental physical laws of the universe
should be derived from life. We've been doing just
the opposite all along. Where we derive fundamental
laws from the non living or physical universe.
Hoping that knowledge of the simplest or universal
aspects will tell us about the most complex... life.

No, life tells us about the physical universe.
The fundamental properties of the universe
are best seen through the /most complex/
the universe has to offer....life.
Not from /the simplest/ ...particles.








Pat

Jonathan wrote:

Want to give me a little personal insight of where you stand, and what
you think about it?
You do it, and I'll give you a little personal insight of where I stand,
and what I think about it.




I believe good or evil is defined relative to how close or far
a system is from natural. If a society displays properties
close to a naturally evolving system then it's better
than one that is non adaptive. Such as a dictatorship.
It's why I have an unending belief in democracy as
a way of creating a better future. And believe dictatorships


I'll wait till I:
A.) Get a good night's sleep.
B.) Sober up.
And get back to you.
Now, this may take a day or two, so don't hold your breath.

Pat

of any kind define evil. Look at the last century, one
dictatorship after another brought us one war after
another. And this century the religious extremists, just
another type of dictatorship, is doing the same thing.

Since nature is constantly evolving or changing over
time, then good and evil also change over time.
Good and evil, or even truth then become essentially
dependent on fitness. Dependent on Darwinian
concepts. I firmly believe the universe, or reality
is understood through the processes of life.

That our fundamental physical laws of the universe
should be derived from life. We've been doing just
the opposite all along. Where we derive fundamental
laws from the non living or physical universe.
Hoping that knowledge of the simplest or universal
aspects will tell us about the most complex... life.

No, life tells us about the physical universe.
The fundamental properties of the universe
are best seen through the /most complex/
the universe has to offer....life.
Not from /the simplest/ ...particles.









Pat