FrothBOMB! - RFD: soc.men.moderated moderated

Art Deco wrote:
Aratzio wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:04 GMT, " krp"
transparently proposed:

"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote in message
. ..

No the cause has been ther "WAR" declared on soc.men by the participants
in
AUK. By any sane interpretation of their participation in soc.men it has
been to SPAM it and close it down by total disruption. The only problem
with
returning the favor and the participants here doing the same in their
newsgroup is that it is like mud wrestling with a pig. The pig LOVES it!
These assholes SOLE purpose in life is to harass others. They are the
biggest collection of arrested development types on the planet.

Thanks for posting this, Ken. I think this post represents the views
of a significant number of soc.men posters - probably most of the
men's rights supporters - and is useful for outsiders to understand
the dynamics of the soc.men.

What we have is a cluster of useless punks from AUK who have declared a
"holy war" on soc.men. Their posts are the equivalent of the ied's the
troops are facing in Iraq. Usenet's equivalent of roadside bombs. With
EXACTLY the same kind of morality behind it. A warped "HOLY WAR" (read as
FATWAH) issued in AUK for all who dare challenge the great collective mind
of AUK. Listen to Ratz he believe HE should crown the moderator of the group
THEY want to form and HE or his cronies will decide what can be discussed.
It's the same old tired censorship **** we hear again and again. The folks
from AUK are in effect mental children and prove what the new ideas of not
disciplining children produce. Jesus these cretins show that their mothers
should have taken parenting courses on how to blister their asses when they
were little. They are a grand display of sociopath.

You know I confront the no-spanking crowd almost on a daily basis. I try
to point out to them the statistics on the growing numbers of people today
testing for sociopath. (Lack of empathy or conscience.) I am not sure we
could prove causal links, but certainly it seems to track that as the "NEVER
SPANK" idea became more pervasive the incidence of sociopath shot up in near
direct proportions. There is a prevailing theory among some psychologists
that conscience is natural in many children, in others it is a "learned"
thing. In that case "KNOWLEDGE" goes from the ASS up! Some kids have to
LEARN that deliberately hurting other people will result in pain to
themselves. I have seen many totally confused kids that have done crimes -
when they are finally sent to prison - are bewildered that they are being
punished for the first time. My point is that the AUK folks really missed
that part of their education. It's also a problem on the net with all the
anonymity it affords. Anonymity breeds reprehensible behavior not nobility.
Lack of accountability.

The AUK types - Ross, Ratz, Art Deco, Jade, Chad and others need to

Whee! #3 on da lits o' socmans haet.

spend some time in the penalty box. Which in this case is that they can go
back to their hole ((AUK)) and sit and bitch about others all they want
there, and blow each other, and pat each other on the back and generally
feel that THEY and ONLY THEY are the truly enlightened ones on the Internet
and pass out all sorts of their AWARDS to others. It is amazing that with
hundreds of MILLIONS of people using the net and Usenet, they this SMALL
band of maybe 20 people feel that THEY are the "ELITE" of all the
participants on the net and that THEY have the gift to bestow awards on
others belittling them. At least THEY take solace that the awards they
INTEND to belittle others actually accomplish that end. PROVE that they are
better than everyone else. They never look at what they DO.......... Now
RATZ claims to be Italian and presumably Catholic. I'd challenge him to sit
down with a priest and confide in the priest the things he has been doing
here. I'd challenge him to tell us his penance... Bet he won't.

Over the past 10 years there have been many efforts to "close down" this
newsgroup. It's come from feminist reactionaries, like Stacy Alexander and
Barbara Amero, from the David Moore and Turin's , it has come from male
feminists, and from anonymous turdbombs. The AUK FATWAH is only the latest
guerilla warfare this group has had to endure. A word of WARNING - a
moderated group poses a danger. That is it is only as long as you have
somebody who is on the side of men - BUT history teaches us that will not
last. One way or another those TOTALLY HOSTILE to free discussion of men's
issues as WE see them will come under attack. It has happened to the men's
forum on CompuServe where radical feminists managed to get Jack Kammer
tossed out and one of their own took over. In just a couple months the group
closed as SHE prohibited ANY discussion of men's issues and it became a
forum that demanded that the men accept being berated by ANGRY
women............And no speaking back to mommy! It happened on Relaynet
where feminists demanded censorship. It happened on Fido, it has happened
anywhere where the forums have been allowed to be moderated. They just take
over and CONTROL the discussions and only THEIR viewpoint is allowed.

As much as I find Ms. Hemingway (Now known as Hyerdal) a completely
disgusting and repulsive individual - her contributions here are important
for this group to show what we are defending against. So too in a way the
FATWAH by the AUK crowd also demonstrate why we need FREE discussion. Men
need a place where their anger can be vented and turned to something
positive.



I really had no idea AUK (especially me) were such a well oiled
machine of usenet doom and destruction.

Thanks Kenny Kakes, that was the funniest thing I have read in weeks.

Yeah, I agree, KENNY KAKES, much more entertaining than warswine's
illucid delusions of grandeur, although many of the themes are similar.

[++alt.astronomy;]

--

Stinking Pig... you are nothing more than a stupied Rat... My
Opinion...

On 7 Jun 2006 20:51:02 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
Aratzio wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:04 GMT, " krp"
transparently proposed:

"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote in message
. ..

No the cause has been ther "WAR" declared on soc.men by the participants
in
AUK. By any sane interpretation of their participation in soc.men it has
been to SPAM it and close it down by total disruption. The only problem
with
returning the favor and the participants here doing the same in their
newsgroup is that it is like mud wrestling with a pig. The pig LOVES it!
These assholes SOLE purpose in life is to harass others. They are the
biggest collection of arrested development types on the planet.

Thanks for posting this, Ken. I think this post represents the views
of a significant number of soc.men posters - probably most of the
men's rights supporters - and is useful for outsiders to understand
the dynamics of the soc.men.

What we have is a cluster of useless punks from AUK who have declared a
"holy war" on soc.men. Their posts are the equivalent of the ied's the
troops are facing in Iraq. Usenet's equivalent of roadside bombs. With
EXACTLY the same kind of morality behind it. A warped "HOLY WAR" (read as
FATWAH) issued in AUK for all who dare challenge the great collective mind
of AUK. Listen to Ratz he believe HE should crown the moderator of the group
THEY want to form and HE or his cronies will decide what can be discussed.
It's the same old tired censorship **** we hear again and again. The folks
from AUK are in effect mental children and prove what the new ideas of not
disciplining children produce. Jesus these cretins show that their mothers
should have taken parenting courses on how to blister their asses when they
were little. They are a grand display of sociopath.

You know I confront the no-spanking crowd almost on a daily basis. I try
to point out to them the statistics on the growing numbers of people today
testing for sociopath. (Lack of empathy or conscience.) I am not sure we
could prove causal links, but certainly it seems to track that as the "NEVER
SPANK" idea became more pervasive the incidence of sociopath shot up in near
direct proportions. There is a prevailing theory among some psychologists
that conscience is natural in many children, in others it is a "learned"
thing. In that case "KNOWLEDGE" goes from the ASS up! Some kids have to
LEARN that deliberately hurting other people will result in pain to
themselves. I have seen many totally confused kids that have done crimes -
when they are finally sent to prison - are bewildered that they are being
punished for the first time. My point is that the AUK folks really missed
that part of their education. It's also a problem on the net with all the
anonymity it affords. Anonymity breeds reprehensible behavior not nobility.
Lack of accountability.

The AUK types - Ross, Ratz, Art Deco, Jade, Chad and others need to

Whee! #3 on da lits o' socmans haet.

spend some time in the penalty box. Which in this case is that they can go
back to their hole ((AUK)) and sit and bitch about others all they want
there, and blow each other, and pat each other on the back and generally
feel that THEY and ONLY THEY are the truly enlightened ones on the Internet
and pass out all sorts of their AWARDS to others. It is amazing that with
hundreds of MILLIONS of people using the net and Usenet, they this SMALL
band of maybe 20 people feel that THEY are the "ELITE" of all the
participants on the net and that THEY have the gift to bestow awards on
others belittling them. At least THEY take solace that the awards they
INTEND to belittle others actually accomplish that end. PROVE that they are
better than everyone else. They never look at what they DO.......... Now
RATZ claims to be Italian and presumably Catholic. I'd challenge him to sit
down with a priest and confide in the priest the things he has been doing
here. I'd challenge him to tell us his penance... Bet he won't.

Over the past 10 years there have been many efforts to "close down" this
newsgroup. It's come from feminist reactionaries, like Stacy Alexander and
Barbara Amero, from the David Moore and Turin's , it has come from male
feminists, and from anonymous turdbombs. The AUK FATWAH is only the latest
guerilla warfare this group has had to endure. A word of WARNING - a
moderated group poses a danger. That is it is only as long as you have
somebody who is on the side of men - BUT history teaches us that will not
last. One way or another those TOTALLY HOSTILE to free discussion of men's
issues as WE see them will come under attack. It has happened to the men's
forum on CompuServe where radical feminists managed to get Jack Kammer
tossed out and one of their own took over. In just a couple months the group
closed as SHE prohibited ANY discussion of men's issues and it became a
forum that demanded that the men accept being berated by ANGRY
women............And no speaking back to mommy! It happened on Relaynet
where feminists demanded censorship. It happened on Fido, it has happened
anywhere where the forums have been allowed to be moderated. They just take
over and CONTROL the discussions and only THEIR viewpoint is allowed.

As much as I find Ms. Hemingway (Now known as Hyerdal) a completely
disgusting and repulsive individual - her contributions here are important
for this group to show what we are defending against. So too in a way the
FATWAH by the AUK crowd also demonstrate why we need FREE discussion. Men
need a place where their anger can be vented and turned to something
positive.



I really had no idea AUK (especially me) were such a well oiled
machine of usenet doom and destruction.

Thanks Kenny Kakes, that was the funniest thing I have read in weeks.

Yeah, I agree, KENNY KAKES, much more entertaining than warswine's
illucid delusions of grandeur, although many of the themes are similar.

[++alt.astronomy;]

--

Stinking Pig... you are nothing more than a stupied Rat... My
Opinion...

Your ragheaded opinion is worth jack, Vartschveen.

Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
fake Double-Anus wrote:
Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 8 Jun 2006 01:21:01 -0700, "Michael Baldwin, Bruce"
wrote:

Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 20:51:02 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
Aratzio wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:04 GMT, " krp"
transparently proposed:

"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote in message
. ..

No the cause has been ther "WAR" declared on soc.men by the participants
in
AUK. By any sane interpretation of their participation in soc.men it has
been to SPAM it and close it down by total disruption. The only problem
with
returning the favor and the participants here doing the same in their
newsgroup is that it is like mud wrestling with a pig. The pig LOVES it!
These assholes SOLE purpose in life is to harass others. They are the
biggest collection of arrested development types on the planet.

Thanks for posting this, Ken. I think this post represents the views
of a significant number of soc.men posters - probably most of the
men's rights supporters - and is useful for outsiders to understand
the dynamics of the soc.men.

What we have is a cluster of useless punks from AUK who have declared a
"holy war" on soc.men. Their posts are the equivalent of the ied's the
troops are facing in Iraq. Usenet's equivalent of roadside bombs. With
EXACTLY the same kind of morality behind it. A warped "HOLY WAR" (read as
FATWAH) issued in AUK for all who dare challenge the great collective mind
of AUK. Listen to Ratz he believe HE should crown the moderator of the group
THEY want to form and HE or his cronies will decide what can be discussed.
It's the same old tired censorship **** we hear again and again. The folks
from AUK are in effect mental children and prove what the new ideas of not
disciplining children produce. Jesus these cretins show that their mothers
should have taken parenting courses on how to blister their asses when they
were little. They are a grand display of sociopath.

You know I confront the no-spanking crowd almost on a daily basis. I try
to point out to them the statistics on the growing numbers of people today
testing for sociopath. (Lack of empathy or conscience.) I am not sure we
could prove causal links, but certainly it seems to track that as the "NEVER
SPANK" idea became more pervasive the incidence of sociopath shot up in near
direct proportions. There is a prevailing theory among some psychologists
that conscience is natural in many children, in others it is a "learned"
thing. In that case "KNOWLEDGE" goes from the ASS up! Some kids have to
LEARN that deliberately hurting other people will result in pain to
themselves. I have seen many totally confused kids that have done crimes -
when they are finally sent to prison - are bewildered that they are being
punished for the first time. My point is that the AUK folks really missed
that part of their education. It's also a problem on the net with all the
anonymity it affords. Anonymity breeds reprehensible behavior not nobility.
Lack of accountability.

The AUK types - Ross, Ratz, Art Deco, Jade, Chad and others need to

Whee! #3 on da lits o' socmans haet.

spend some time in the penalty box. Which in this case is that they can go
back to their hole ((AUK)) and sit and bitch about others all they want
there, and blow each other, and pat each other on the back and generally
feel that THEY and ONLY THEY are the truly enlightened ones on the Internet
and pass out all sorts of their AWARDS to others. It is amazing that with
hundreds of MILLIONS of people using the net and Usenet, they this SMALL
band of maybe 20 people feel that THEY are the "ELITE" of all the
participants on the net and that THEY have the gift to bestow awards on
others belittling them. At least THEY take solace that the awards they
INTEND to belittle others actually accomplish that end. PROVE that they are
better than everyone else. They never look at what they DO.......... Now
RATZ claims to be Italian and presumably Catholic. I'd challenge him to sit
down with a priest and confide in the priest the things he has been doing
here. I'd challenge him to tell us his penance... Bet he won't.

Over the past 10 years there have been many efforts to "close down" this
newsgroup. It's come from feminist reactionaries, like Stacy Alexander and
Barbara Amero, from the David Moore and Turin's , it has come from male
feminists, and from anonymous turdbombs. The AUK FATWAH is only the latest
guerilla warfare this group has had to endure. A word of WARNING - a
moderated group poses a danger. That is it is only as long as you have
somebody who is on the side of men - BUT history teaches us that will not
last. One way or another those TOTALLY HOSTILE to free discussion of men's
issues as WE see them will come under attack. It has happened to the men's
forum on CompuServe where radical feminists managed to get Jack Kammer
tossed out and one of their own took over. In just a couple months the group
closed as SHE prohibited ANY discussion of men's issues and it became a
forum that demanded that the men accept being berated by ANGRY
women............And no speaking back to mommy! It happened on Relaynet
where feminists demanded censorship. It happened on Fido, it has happened
anywhere where the forums have been allowed to be moderated. They just take
over and CONTROL the discussions and only THEIR viewpoint is allowed.

As much as I find Ms. Hemingway (Now known as Hyerdal) a completely
disgusting and repulsive individual - her contributions here are important
for this group to show what we are defending against. So too in a way the
FATWAH by the AUK crowd also demonstrate why we need FREE discussion. Men
need a place where their anger can be vented and turned to something
positive.



I really had no idea AUK (especially me) were such a well oiled
machine of usenet doom and destruction.

Thanks Kenny Kakes, that was the funniest thing I have read in weeks.

Yeah, I agree, KENNY KAKES, much more entertaining than warswine's
illucid delusions of grandeur, although many of the themes are similar.

[++alt.astronomy;]

--

Stinking Pig... you are nothing more than a stupied Rat... My
Opinion...

Your ragheaded opinion is worth jack, Vartschveen.

Jeez, you can be a real ******* sometimes, Carl.

You bet, Bruce.

I could but I won't, Carl. I don't like to lose my money.


I wonder what Charles in his professional opinion would have to say
about this conversation?

Double-Anus

Charles who, fake Double-Anus? And what is his profession?


Here's a clue: He ain't a proctologist!

Double-A

On 9 Jun 2006 05:04:27 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:


Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
fake Double-Anus wrote:
Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 8 Jun 2006 01:21:01 -0700, "Michael Baldwin, Bruce"
wrote:

Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 20:51:02 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
Aratzio wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:04 GMT, " krp"
transparently proposed:

"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote in message
. ..

No the cause has been ther "WAR" declared on soc.men by the participants
in
AUK. By any sane interpretation of their participation in soc.men it has
been to SPAM it and close it down by total disruption. The only problem
with
returning the favor and the participants here doing the same in their
newsgroup is that it is like mud wrestling with a pig. The pig LOVES it!
These assholes SOLE purpose in life is to harass others. They are the
biggest collection of arrested development types on the planet.

Thanks for posting this, Ken. I think this post represents the views
of a significant number of soc.men posters - probably most of the
men's rights supporters - and is useful for outsiders to understand
the dynamics of the soc.men.

What we have is a cluster of useless punks from AUK who have declared a
"holy war" on soc.men. Their posts are the equivalent of the ied's the
troops are facing in Iraq. Usenet's equivalent of roadside bombs. With
EXACTLY the same kind of morality behind it. A warped "HOLY WAR" (read as
FATWAH) issued in AUK for all who dare challenge the great collective mind
of AUK. Listen to Ratz he believe HE should crown the moderator of the group
THEY want to form and HE or his cronies will decide what can be discussed.
It's the same old tired censorship **** we hear again and again. The folks
from AUK are in effect mental children and prove what the new ideas of not
disciplining children produce. Jesus these cretins show that their mothers
should have taken parenting courses on how to blister their asses when they
were little. They are a grand display of sociopath.

You know I confront the no-spanking crowd almost on a daily basis. I try
to point out to them the statistics on the growing numbers of people today
testing for sociopath. (Lack of empathy or conscience.) I am not sure we
could prove causal links, but certainly it seems to track that as the "NEVER
SPANK" idea became more pervasive the incidence of sociopath shot up in near
direct proportions. There is a prevailing theory among some psychologists
that conscience is natural in many children, in others it is a "learned"
thing. In that case "KNOWLEDGE" goes from the ASS up! Some kids have to
LEARN that deliberately hurting other people will result in pain to
themselves. I have seen many totally confused kids that have done crimes -
when they are finally sent to prison - are bewildered that they are being
punished for the first time. My point is that the AUK folks really missed
that part of their education. It's also a problem on the net with all the
anonymity it affords. Anonymity breeds reprehensible behavior not nobility.
Lack of accountability.

The AUK types - Ross, Ratz, Art Deco, Jade, Chad and others need to

Whee! #3 on da lits o' socmans haet.

spend some time in the penalty box. Which in this case is that they can go
back to their hole ((AUK)) and sit and bitch about others all they want
there, and blow each other, and pat each other on the back and generally
feel that THEY and ONLY THEY are the truly enlightened ones on the Internet
and pass out all sorts of their AWARDS to others. It is amazing that with
hundreds of MILLIONS of people using the net and Usenet, they this SMALL
band of maybe 20 people feel that THEY are the "ELITE" of all the
participants on the net and that THEY have the gift to bestow awards on
others belittling them. At least THEY take solace that the awards they
INTEND to belittle others actually accomplish that end. PROVE that they are
better than everyone else. They never look at what they DO.......... Now
RATZ claims to be Italian and presumably Catholic. I'd challenge him to sit
down with a priest and confide in the priest the things he has been doing
here. I'd challenge him to tell us his penance... Bet he won't.

Over the past 10 years there have been many efforts to "close down" this
newsgroup. It's come from feminist reactionaries, like Stacy Alexander and
Barbara Amero, from the David Moore and Turin's , it has come from male
feminists, and from anonymous turdbombs. The AUK FATWAH is only the latest
guerilla warfare this group has had to endure. A word of WARNING - a
moderated group poses a danger. That is it is only as long as you have
somebody who is on the side of men - BUT history teaches us that will not
last. One way or another those TOTALLY HOSTILE to free discussion of men's
issues as WE see them will come under attack. It has happened to the men's
forum on CompuServe where radical feminists managed to get Jack Kammer
tossed out and one of their own took over. In just a couple months the group
closed as SHE prohibited ANY discussion of men's issues and it became a
forum that demanded that the men accept being berated by ANGRY
women............And no speaking back to mommy! It happened on Relaynet
where feminists demanded censorship. It happened on Fido, it has happened
anywhere where the forums have been allowed to be moderated. They just take
over and CONTROL the discussions and only THEIR viewpoint is allowed.

As much as I find Ms. Hemingway (Now known as Hyerdal) a completely
disgusting and repulsive individual - her contributions here are important
for this group to show what we are defending against. So too in a way the
FATWAH by the AUK crowd also demonstrate why we need FREE discussion. Men
need a place where their anger can be vented and turned to something
positive.



I really had no idea AUK (especially me) were such a well oiled
machine of usenet doom and destruction.

Thanks Kenny Kakes, that was the funniest thing I have read in weeks.

Yeah, I agree, KENNY KAKES, much more entertaining than warswine's
illucid delusions of grandeur, although many of the themes are similar.

[++alt.astronomy;]

--

Stinking Pig... you are nothing more than a stupied Rat... My
Opinion...

Your ragheaded opinion is worth jack, Vartschveen.

Jeez, you can be a real ******* sometimes, Carl.

You bet, Bruce.

I could but I won't, Carl. I don't like to lose my money.


I wonder what Charles in his professional opinion would have to say
about this conversation?

Double-Anus

Charles who, fake Double-Anus? And what is his profession?


Here's a clue: He ain't a proctologist!

Do you need two proctologists, Double-Anus?
Or one proctologist with two hands? LOL

Art Deco wrote:
On 9 Jun 2006 05:04:27 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:


Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
fake Double-Anus wrote:
Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 8 Jun 2006 01:21:01 -0700, "Michael Baldwin, Bruce"
wrote:

Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 20:51:02 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
Aratzio wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:04 GMT, " krp"
transparently proposed:

"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote in message
. ..

No the cause has been ther "WAR" declared on soc.men by the participants
in
AUK. By any sane interpretation of their participation in soc.men it has
been to SPAM it and close it down by total disruption. The only problem
with
returning the favor and the participants here doing the same in their
newsgroup is that it is like mud wrestling with a pig. The pig LOVES it!
These assholes SOLE purpose in life is to harass others. They are the
biggest collection of arrested development types on the planet.

Thanks for posting this, Ken. I think this post represents the views
of a significant number of soc.men posters - probably most of the
men's rights supporters - and is useful for outsiders to understand
the dynamics of the soc.men.

What we have is a cluster of useless punks from AUK who have declared a
"holy war" on soc.men. Their posts are the equivalent of the ied's the
troops are facing in Iraq. Usenet's equivalent of roadside bombs. With
EXACTLY the same kind of morality behind it. A warped "HOLY WAR" (read as
FATWAH) issued in AUK for all who dare challenge the great collective mind
of AUK. Listen to Ratz he believe HE should crown the moderator of the group
THEY want to form and HE or his cronies will decide what can be discussed.
It's the same old tired censorship **** we hear again and again. The folks
from AUK are in effect mental children and prove what the new ideas of not
disciplining children produce. Jesus these cretins show that their mothers
should have taken parenting courses on how to blister their asses when they
were little. They are a grand display of sociopath.

You know I confront the no-spanking crowd almost on a daily basis. I try
to point out to them the statistics on the growing numbers of people today
testing for sociopath. (Lack of empathy or conscience.) I am not sure we
could prove causal links, but certainly it seems to track that as the "NEVER
SPANK" idea became more pervasive the incidence of sociopath shot up in near
direct proportions. There is a prevailing theory among some psychologists
that conscience is natural in many children, in others it is a "learned"
thing. In that case "KNOWLEDGE" goes from the ASS up! Some kids have to
LEARN that deliberately hurting other people will result in pain to
themselves. I have seen many totally confused kids that have done crimes -
when they are finally sent to prison - are bewildered that they are being
punished for the first time. My point is that the AUK folks really missed
that part of their education. It's also a problem on the net with all the
anonymity it affords. Anonymity breeds reprehensible behavior not nobility.
Lack of accountability.

The AUK types - Ross, Ratz, Art Deco, Jade, Chad and others need to

Whee! #3 on da lits o' socmans haet.

spend some time in the penalty box. Which in this case is that they can go
back to their hole ((AUK)) and sit and bitch about others all they want
there, and blow each other, and pat each other on the back and generally
feel that THEY and ONLY THEY are the truly enlightened ones on the Internet
and pass out all sorts of their AWARDS to others. It is amazing that with
hundreds of MILLIONS of people using the net and Usenet, they this SMALL
band of maybe 20 people feel that THEY are the "ELITE" of all the
participants on the net and that THEY have the gift to bestow awards on
others belittling them. At least THEY take solace that the awards they
INTEND to belittle others actually accomplish that end. PROVE that they are
better than everyone else. They never look at what they DO.......... Now
RATZ claims to be Italian and presumably Catholic. I'd challenge him to sit
down with a priest and confide in the priest the things he has been doing
here. I'd challenge him to tell us his penance... Bet he won't.

Over the past 10 years there have been many efforts to "close down" this
newsgroup. It's come from feminist reactionaries, like Stacy Alexander and
Barbara Amero, from the David Moore and Turin's , it has come from male
feminists, and from anonymous turdbombs. The AUK FATWAH is only the latest
guerilla warfare this group has had to endure. A word of WARNING - a
moderated group poses a danger. That is it is only as long as you have
somebody who is on the side of men - BUT history teaches us that will not
last. One way or another those TOTALLY HOSTILE to free discussion of men's
issues as WE see them will come under attack. It has happened to the men's
forum on CompuServe where radical feminists managed to get Jack Kammer
tossed out and one of their own took over. In just a couple months the group
closed as SHE prohibited ANY discussion of men's issues and it became a
forum that demanded that the men accept being berated by ANGRY
women............And no speaking back to mommy! It happened on Relaynet
where feminists demanded censorship. It happened on Fido, it has happened
anywhere where the forums have been allowed to be moderated. They just take
over and CONTROL the discussions and only THEIR viewpoint is allowed.

As much as I find Ms. Hemingway (Now known as Hyerdal) a completely
disgusting and repulsive individual - her contributions here are important
for this group to show what we are defending against. So too in a way the
FATWAH by the AUK crowd also demonstrate why we need FREE discussion. Men
need a place where their anger can be vented and turned to something
positive.



I really had no idea AUK (especially me) were such a well oiled
machine of usenet doom and destruction.

Thanks Kenny Kakes, that was the funniest thing I have read in weeks.

Yeah, I agree, KENNY KAKES, much more entertaining than warswine's
illucid delusions of grandeur, although many of the themes are similar.

[++alt.astronomy;]

--

Stinking Pig... you are nothing more than a stupied Rat... My
Opinion...

Your ragheaded opinion is worth jack, Vartschveen.

Jeez, you can be a real ******* sometimes, Carl.

You bet, Bruce.

I could but I won't, Carl. I don't like to lose my money.


I wonder what Charles in his professional opinion would have to say
about this conversation?

Double-Anus

Charles who, fake Double-Anus? And what is his profession?


Here's a clue: He ain't a proctologist!

Do you need two proctologists, Double-Anus?
Or one proctologist with two hands? LOL


Do you need two shrinks, Deco/Bruce?

One for each asshole personallity?

Double-A wrote:
Art Deco wrote:
On 9 Jun 2006 05:04:27 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:


Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
fake Double-Anus wrote:
Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 8 Jun 2006 01:21:01 -0700, "Michael Baldwin, Bruce"
wrote:

Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 20:51:02 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
Aratzio wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:04 GMT, " krp"
transparently proposed:

"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote in message
. ..

No the cause has been ther "WAR" declared on soc.men by the participants
in
AUK. By any sane interpretation of their participation in soc.men it has
been to SPAM it and close it down by total disruption. The only problem
with
returning the favor and the participants here doing the same in their
newsgroup is that it is like mud wrestling with a pig. The pig LOVES it!
These assholes SOLE purpose in life is to harass others. They are the
biggest collection of arrested development types on the planet.

Thanks for posting this, Ken. I think this post represents the views
of a significant number of soc.men posters - probably most of the
men's rights supporters - and is useful for outsiders to understand
the dynamics of the soc.men.

What we have is a cluster of useless punks from AUK who have declared a
"holy war" on soc.men. Their posts are the equivalent of the ied's the
troops are facing in Iraq. Usenet's equivalent of roadside bombs. With
EXACTLY the same kind of morality behind it. A warped "HOLY WAR" (read as
FATWAH) issued in AUK for all who dare challenge the great collective mind
of AUK. Listen to Ratz he believe HE should crown the moderator of the group
THEY want to form and HE or his cronies will decide what can be discussed.
It's the same old tired censorship **** we hear again and again. The folks
from AUK are in effect mental children and prove what the new ideas of not
disciplining children produce. Jesus these cretins show that their mothers
should have taken parenting courses on how to blister their asses when they
were little. They are a grand display of sociopath.

You know I confront the no-spanking crowd almost on a daily basis. I try
to point out to them the statistics on the growing numbers of people today
testing for sociopath. (Lack of empathy or conscience.) I am not sure we
could prove causal links, but certainly it seems to track that as the "NEVER
SPANK" idea became more pervasive the incidence of sociopath shot up in near
direct proportions. There is a prevailing theory among some psychologists
that conscience is natural in many children, in others it is a "learned"
thing. In that case "KNOWLEDGE" goes from the ASS up! Some kids have to
LEARN that deliberately hurting other people will result in pain to
themselves. I have seen many totally confused kids that have done crimes -
when they are finally sent to prison - are bewildered that they are being
punished for the first time. My point is that the AUK folks really missed
that part of their education. It's also a problem on the net with all the
anonymity it affords. Anonymity breeds reprehensible behavior not nobility.
Lack of accountability.

The AUK types - Ross, Ratz, Art Deco, Jade, Chad and others need to

Whee! #3 on da lits o' socmans haet.

spend some time in the penalty box. Which in this case is that they can go
back to their hole ((AUK)) and sit and bitch about others all they want
there, and blow each other, and pat each other on the back and generally
feel that THEY and ONLY THEY are the truly enlightened ones on the Internet
and pass out all sorts of their AWARDS to others. It is amazing that with
hundreds of MILLIONS of people using the net and Usenet, they this SMALL
band of maybe 20 people feel that THEY are the "ELITE" of all the
participants on the net and that THEY have the gift to bestow awards on
others belittling them. At least THEY take solace that the awards they
INTEND to belittle others actually accomplish that end. PROVE that they are
better than everyone else. They never look at what they DO.......... Now
RATZ claims to be Italian and presumably Catholic. I'd challenge him to sit
down with a priest and confide in the priest the things he has been doing
here. I'd challenge him to tell us his penance... Bet he won't.

Over the past 10 years there have been many efforts to "close down" this
newsgroup. It's come from feminist reactionaries, like Stacy Alexander and
Barbara Amero, from the David Moore and Turin's , it has come from male
feminists, and from anonymous turdbombs. The AUK FATWAH is only the latest
guerilla warfare this group has had to endure. A word of WARNING - a
moderated group poses a danger. That is it is only as long as you have
somebody who is on the side of men - BUT history teaches us that will not
last. One way or another those TOTALLY HOSTILE to free discussion of men's
issues as WE see them will come under attack. It has happened to the men's
forum on CompuServe where radical feminists managed to get Jack Kammer
tossed out and one of their own took over. In just a couple months the group
closed as SHE prohibited ANY discussion of men's issues and it became a
forum that demanded that the men accept being berated by ANGRY
women............And no speaking back to mommy! It happened on Relaynet
where feminists demanded censorship. It happened on Fido, it has happened
anywhere where the forums have been allowed to be moderated. They just take
over and CONTROL the discussions and only THEIR viewpoint is allowed.

As much as I find Ms. Hemingway (Now known as Hyerdal) a completely
disgusting and repulsive individual - her contributions here are important
for this group to show what we are defending against. So too in a way the
FATWAH by the AUK crowd also demonstrate why we need FREE discussion. Men
need a place where their anger can be vented and turned to something
positive.



I really had no idea AUK (especially me) were such a well oiled
machine of usenet doom and destruction.

Thanks Kenny Kakes, that was the funniest thing I have read in weeks.

Yeah, I agree, KENNY KAKES, much more entertaining than warswine's
illucid delusions of grandeur, although many of the themes are similar.

[++alt.astronomy;]

--

Stinking Pig... you are nothing more than a stupied Rat... My
Opinion...

Your ragheaded opinion is worth jack, Vartschveen.

Jeez, you can be a real ******* sometimes, Carl.

You bet, Bruce.

I could but I won't, Carl. I don't like to lose my money.


I wonder what Charles in his professional opinion would have to say
about this conversation?

Double-Anus

Charles who, fake Double-Anus? And what is his profession?


Here's a clue: He ain't a proctologist!

Do you need two proctologists, Double-Anus?
Or one proctologist with two hands? LOL


Do you need two shrinks, Deco/Bruce?

One for each asshole personallity?
LOL! ... that is the funniest thing that I have read all month.

Very amusing, Double-A,

Cordially,

RL

On 10 Jun 2006 06:40:22 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:


Art Deco wrote:
On 9 Jun 2006 05:04:27 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:


Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
fake Double-Anus wrote:
Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 8 Jun 2006 01:21:01 -0700, "Michael Baldwin, Bruce"
wrote:

Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 20:51:02 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
Aratzio wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:04 GMT, " krp"
transparently proposed:

"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote in message
. ..

No the cause has been ther "WAR" declared on soc.men by the participants
in
AUK. By any sane interpretation of their participation in soc.men it has
been to SPAM it and close it down by total disruption. The only problem
with
returning the favor and the participants here doing the same in their
newsgroup is that it is like mud wrestling with a pig. The pig LOVES it!
These assholes SOLE purpose in life is to harass others. They are the
biggest collection of arrested development types on the planet.

Thanks for posting this, Ken. I think this post represents the views
of a significant number of soc.men posters - probably most of the
men's rights supporters - and is useful for outsiders to understand
the dynamics of the soc.men.

What we have is a cluster of useless punks from AUK who have declared a
"holy war" on soc.men. Their posts are the equivalent of the ied's the
troops are facing in Iraq. Usenet's equivalent of roadside bombs. With
EXACTLY the same kind of morality behind it. A warped "HOLY WAR" (read as
FATWAH) issued in AUK for all who dare challenge the great collective mind
of AUK. Listen to Ratz he believe HE should crown the moderator of the group
THEY want to form and HE or his cronies will decide what can be discussed.
It's the same old tired censorship **** we hear again and again. The folks
from AUK are in effect mental children and prove what the new ideas of not
disciplining children produce. Jesus these cretins show that their mothers
should have taken parenting courses on how to blister their asses when they
were little. They are a grand display of sociopath.

You know I confront the no-spanking crowd almost on a daily basis. I try
to point out to them the statistics on the growing numbers of people today
testing for sociopath. (Lack of empathy or conscience.) I am not sure we
could prove causal links, but certainly it seems to track that as the "NEVER
SPANK" idea became more pervasive the incidence of sociopath shot up in near
direct proportions. There is a prevailing theory among some psychologists
that conscience is natural in many children, in others it is a "learned"
thing. In that case "KNOWLEDGE" goes from the ASS up! Some kids have to
LEARN that deliberately hurting other people will result in pain to
themselves. I have seen many totally confused kids that have done crimes -
when they are finally sent to prison - are bewildered that they are being
punished for the first time. My point is that the AUK folks really missed
that part of their education. It's also a problem on the net with all the
anonymity it affords. Anonymity breeds reprehensible behavior not nobility.
Lack of accountability.

The AUK types - Ross, Ratz, Art Deco, Jade, Chad and others need to

Whee! #3 on da lits o' socmans haet.

spend some time in the penalty box. Which in this case is that they can go
back to their hole ((AUK)) and sit and bitch about others all they want
there, and blow each other, and pat each other on the back and generally
feel that THEY and ONLY THEY are the truly enlightened ones on the Internet
and pass out all sorts of their AWARDS to others. It is amazing that with
hundreds of MILLIONS of people using the net and Usenet, they this SMALL
band of maybe 20 people feel that THEY are the "ELITE" of all the
participants on the net and that THEY have the gift to bestow awards on
others belittling them. At least THEY take solace that the awards they
INTEND to belittle others actually accomplish that end. PROVE that they are
better than everyone else. They never look at what they DO.......... Now
RATZ claims to be Italian and presumably Catholic. I'd challenge him to sit
down with a priest and confide in the priest the things he has been doing
here. I'd challenge him to tell us his penance... Bet he won't.

Over the past 10 years there have been many efforts to "close down" this
newsgroup. It's come from feminist reactionaries, like Stacy Alexander and
Barbara Amero, from the David Moore and Turin's , it has come from male
feminists, and from anonymous turdbombs. The AUK FATWAH is only the latest
guerilla warfare this group has had to endure. A word of WARNING - a
moderated group poses a danger. That is it is only as long as you have
somebody who is on the side of men - BUT history teaches us that will not
last. One way or another those TOTALLY HOSTILE to free discussion of men's
issues as WE see them will come under attack. It has happened to the men's
forum on CompuServe where radical feminists managed to get Jack Kammer
tossed out and one of their own took over. In just a couple months the group
closed as SHE prohibited ANY discussion of men's issues and it became a
forum that demanded that the men accept being berated by ANGRY
women............And no speaking back to mommy! It happened on Relaynet
where feminists demanded censorship. It happened on Fido, it has happened
anywhere where the forums have been allowed to be moderated. They just take
over and CONTROL the discussions and only THEIR viewpoint is allowed.

As much as I find Ms. Hemingway (Now known as Hyerdal) a completely
disgusting and repulsive individual - her contributions here are important
for this group to show what we are defending against. So too in a way the
FATWAH by the AUK crowd also demonstrate why we need FREE discussion. Men
need a place where their anger can be vented and turned to something
positive.



I really had no idea AUK (especially me) were such a well oiled
machine of usenet doom and destruction.

Thanks Kenny Kakes, that was the funniest thing I have read in weeks.

Yeah, I agree, KENNY KAKES, much more entertaining than warswine's
illucid delusions of grandeur, although many of the themes are similar.

[++alt.astronomy;]

--

Stinking Pig... you are nothing more than a stupied Rat... My
Opinion...

Your ragheaded opinion is worth jack, Vartschveen.

Jeez, you can be a real ******* sometimes, Carl.

You bet, Bruce.

I could but I won't, Carl. I don't like to lose my money.


I wonder what Charles in his professional opinion would have to say
about this conversation?

Double-Anus

Charles who, fake Double-Anus? And what is his profession?


Here's a clue: He ain't a proctologist!

Do you need two proctologists, Double-Anus?
Or one proctologist with two hands? LOL


Do you need two shrinks, Deco/Bruce?

One for each asshole personallity?

Does each of your anuses have a personality of its own too,
Double-Anus?

On 11 Jun 2006 09:27:09 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:


Art Deco wrote:
On 10 Jun 2006 06:40:22 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:


Art Deco wrote:
On 9 Jun 2006 05:04:27 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:


Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
fake Double-Anus wrote:
Michael Baldwin, Bruce wrote:
Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 8 Jun 2006 01:21:01 -0700, "Michael Baldwin, Bruce"
wrote:

Carl Osterwald AKA Art Deco wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 20:51:02 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
Aratzio wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:04 GMT, " krp"
transparently proposed:

"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote in message
. ..

No the cause has been ther "WAR" declared on soc.men by the participants
in
AUK. By any sane interpretation of their participation in soc.men it has
been to SPAM it and close it down by total disruption. The only problem
with
returning the favor and the participants here doing the same in their
newsgroup is that it is like mud wrestling with a pig. The pig LOVES it!
These assholes SOLE purpose in life is to harass others. They are the
biggest collection of arrested development types on the planet.

Thanks for posting this, Ken. I think this post represents the views
of a significant number of soc.men posters - probably most of the
men's rights supporters - and is useful for outsiders to understand
the dynamics of the soc.men.

What we have is a cluster of useless punks from AUK who have declared a
"holy war" on soc.men. Their posts are the equivalent of the ied's the
troops are facing in Iraq. Usenet's equivalent of roadside bombs. With
EXACTLY the same kind of morality behind it. A warped "HOLY WAR" (read as
FATWAH) issued in AUK for all who dare challenge the great collective mind
of AUK. Listen to Ratz he believe HE should crown the moderator of the group
THEY want to form and HE or his cronies will decide what can be discussed.
It's the same old tired censorship **** we hear again and again. The folks
from AUK are in effect mental children and prove what the new ideas of not
disciplining children produce. Jesus these cretins show that their mothers
should have taken parenting courses on how to blister their asses when they
were little. They are a grand display of sociopath.

You know I confront the no-spanking crowd almost on a daily basis. I try
to point out to them the statistics on the growing numbers of people today
testing for sociopath. (Lack of empathy or conscience.) I am not sure we
could prove causal links, but certainly it seems to track that as the "NEVER
SPANK" idea became more pervasive the incidence of sociopath shot up in near
direct proportions. There is a prevailing theory among some psychologists
that conscience is natural in many children, in others it is a "learned"
thing. In that case "KNOWLEDGE" goes from the ASS up! Some kids have to
LEARN that deliberately hurting other people will result in pain to
themselves. I have seen many totally confused kids that have done crimes -
when they are finally sent to prison - are bewildered that they are being
punished for the first time. My point is that the AUK folks really missed
that part of their education. It's also a problem on the net with all the
anonymity it affords. Anonymity breeds reprehensible behavior not nobility.
Lack of accountability.

The AUK types - Ross, Ratz, Art Deco, Jade, Chad and others need to

Whee! #3 on da lits o' socmans haet.

spend some time in the penalty box. Which in this case is that they can go
back to their hole ((AUK)) and sit and bitch about others all they want
there, and blow each other, and pat each other on the back and generally
feel that THEY and ONLY THEY are the truly enlightened ones on the Internet
and pass out all sorts of their AWARDS to others. It is amazing that with
hundreds of MILLIONS of people using the net and Usenet, they this SMALL
band of maybe 20 people feel that THEY are the "ELITE" of all the
participants on the net and that THEY have the gift to bestow awards on
others belittling them. At least THEY take solace that the awards they
INTEND to belittle others actually accomplish that end. PROVE that they are
better than everyone else. They never look at what they DO.......... Now
RATZ claims to be Italian and presumably Catholic. I'd challenge him to sit
down with a priest and confide in the priest the things he has been doing
here. I'd challenge him to tell us his penance... Bet he won't.

Over the past 10 years there have been many efforts to "close down" this
newsgroup. It's come from feminist reactionaries, like Stacy Alexander and
Barbara Amero, from the David Moore and Turin's , it has come from male
feminists, and from anonymous turdbombs. The AUK FATWAH is only the latest
guerilla warfare this group has had to endure. A word of WARNING - a
moderated group poses a danger. That is it is only as long as you have
somebody who is on the side of men - BUT history teaches us that will not
last. One way or another those TOTALLY HOSTILE to free discussion of men's
issues as WE see them will come under attack. It has happened to the men's
forum on CompuServe where radical feminists managed to get Jack Kammer
tossed out and one of their own took over. In just a couple months the group
closed as SHE prohibited ANY discussion of men's issues and it became a
forum that demanded that the men accept being berated by ANGRY
women............And no speaking back to mommy! It happened on Relaynet
where feminists demanded censorship. It happened on Fido, it has happened
anywhere where the forums have been allowed to be moderated. They just take
over and CONTROL the discussions and only THEIR viewpoint is allowed.

As much as I find Ms. Hemingway (Now known as Hyerdal) a completely
disgusting and repulsive individual - her contributions here are important
for this group to show what we are defending against. So too in a way the
FATWAH by the AUK crowd also demonstrate why we need FREE discussion. Men
need a place where their anger can be vented and turned to something
positive.



I really had no idea AUK (especially me) were such a well oiled
machine of usenet doom and destruction.

Thanks Kenny Kakes, that was the funniest thing I have read in weeks.

Yeah, I agree, KENNY KAKES, much more entertaining than warswine's
illucid delusions of grandeur, although many of the themes are similar.

[++alt.astronomy;]

--

Stinking Pig... you are nothing more than a stupied Rat... My
Opinion...

Your ragheaded opinion is worth jack, Vartschveen.

Jeez, you can be a real ******* sometimes, Carl.

You bet, Bruce.

I could but I won't, Carl. I don't like to lose my money.


I wonder what Charles in his professional opinion would have to say
about this conversation?

Double-Anus

Charles who, fake Double-Anus? And what is his profession?


Here's a clue: He ain't a proctologist!

Do you need two proctologists, Double-Anus?
Or one proctologist with two hands? LOL


Do you need two shrinks, Deco/Bruce?

One for each asshole personallity?

Does each of your anuses have a personality of its own too,
Double-Anus?

How come my quips get more laughs than yours, Deco/Bruce?

Perhaps all saucerheads are as demented as you, Double-Anus.