How fast?

"oriel36" wrote in message
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| Laury
|
| This type of astronomy requires that you immerse yourself in the
| various motions and orientations otherwise it is a waste of time.Both
....
|
| As for the correct answer,well it reflects the original working
....

Well thanks for those thoughts. Let me know if you find a source for
the angles I was seeking, e.g., motions and orientations.
--
Laury

| You will not get a correct answer among people here or anywhere on the
| internet insofar as they use a calendrically driven celestial sphere
| where the Earth's axial and orbital orientation share a common axis.
It is not a put down,it is just the system they consider convenient for
| Ra/Dec is hopeless for comparing changes in orientations which are
| central to your observations and your questions.

Neither will you get an answer among the people here or anywhere on the internet that agrees with
Gezza.
jc :-)

To Laury

Unfortunately the sources which contemporaries adhere to are
unsatisfactory for what you wish and I have explained as best I can
exactly where the obstacles exist in untangling the Earth's axial
rotation from it orbital motion.

The calendrically driven sidereal justification allows the Earth's axis
to drift against the Sun -

http://www.diduknow.info/sun/images/high_low_sun.gif

A slight adjustment based on changing orbital orientation against fixed
axial rotation resolves the issue and I assure you that you will not
find that view on the internet,in a library or anywhere else even
though it is the correct way to approach the material and at least make
progress in coming to a partial answer to your question.

Best wishes in your future investigations.

To Laury

Unfortunately the sources which contemporaries adhere to are
unsatisfactory for what you wish and I have explained as best I can
exactly where the obstacles exist in untangling the Earth's axial
rotation from it orbital motion.


The calendrically driven sidereal justification allows the Earth's axis

to drift against the Sun -


http://www.diduknow.info/sun/images/high_low_sun.gif


A slight adjustment based on changing orbital orientation against fixed

axial orientation resolves the issue and I assure you that you will not

find that view on the internet,in a library or anywhere else even
though it is the correct way to approach the material and at least make

progress in coming to a partial answer to your question.


Best wishes in your future investigations

Here is what you believe -

http://www.diduknow.info/sun/images/high_low_sun.gif

That 17th century hemispherical concoction based on variable axial
tilt to the Sun or orbital plane is just slightly more advanced than a
flat Earth.

The poster's original question remains a good one and I hope he
pursues despite the hideous obstacles placed in his way as it leads to
all sorts of productive avenues.

Btw
I apologise to Laury for the poor way the text in my last reply showed
up.

So the homogeneity of the CMB tells you what ?

(and how did you get out of the killfile ?)

--
John Carruthers
http://mysite.freeserve.com/jc_atm/
"oriel36" wrote in message
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Here is what you believe -

http://www.diduknow.info/sun/images/high_low_sun.gif

That 17th century hemispherical concoction based on variable axial
tilt to the Sun or orbital plane is just slightly more advanced than a
flat Earth.

The poster's original question remains a good one and I hope he
pursues despite the hideous obstacles placed in his way as it leads to
all sorts of productive avenues.

Btw
I apologise to Laury for the poor way the text in my last reply showed
up.