SpaceShipOne a Spy Plane?

Jane's Aircraft once said yf-12 sr-71 had 140,000 ceiling. These
though were the planes that had a lower rudder or stablizer. I assume
partly that this was for higher G turns. There is though the
possiblity of a popup manuver or going high over target area out of
reach 140,000 feet. That would have been way out of the reach of
anything. It was know that the flying wing had almost no radar
signature. A technical problem and the design sets for 30 plus
years.

Design origin of the SR-71 in the X-15 x-plane pictures of yf-12

http://www.angelfire.com/space/where...-be/sr-71.html

Space where I want to be

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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:31:09 -0500, boblpetersen1 wrote:

Jane's Aircraft once said yf-12 sr-71 had 140,000 ceiling. These though
were the planes that had a lower rudder or stablizer. I assume partly
that this was for higher G turns. There is though the possiblity of a
popup manuver or going high over target area out of reach 140,000 feet.
That would have been way out of the reach of anything. It was know that
the flying wing had almost no radar signature. A technical problem and
the design sets for 30 plus years.

Design origin of the SR-71 in the X-15 x-plane pictures of yf-12

http://www.angelfire.com/space/where...-be/sr-71.html

Space where I want to be

http://www.angelfire.com/space/where-i-want-to-be/


It decouples roll from yaw, if the rudder/stabilizer is entirely above the
cg when you push on the rudder to yaw the aircraft you also get some roll
too. Aircraft are not turned using the rudder. In flight, the
rudder/stabilizer is really only use to keep angle of side slip (beta)
zero during level flight and a "coordinated" turn. Landing with a cross
wind is really the only place where this (zero beta) isn't desired.

The aircraft is rolled, then pitched to increase lift on the entire wing
to turn the aircraft.

Craig Fink
Badnarik for President (http://www.badnarik.org)

Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
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wrote:
Well, to what end? We have satellites in orbit, we have lifting bodies
that can loft more than three people and we have not only the U2/SR-71
duo but drone platforms we can fly remotely.


Well, we have U2. SR-71 has been retired for some yaers.



It got unretired though.

(Damn, research shows it was grounded. Again.)


TBerk

"T" wrote in message
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:

Well, we have U2. SR-71 has been retired for some yaers.



It got unretired though.

(Damn, research shows it was grounded. Again.)

Ayup.



TBerk

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 05:25:54 GMT, T wrote:

wrote:

Well, to what end? We have satellites in orbit, we have lifting bodies
that can loft more than three people and we have not only the U2/SR-71
duo but drone platforms we can fly remotely.

We don't have SR-71s any more. There are none flyable.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

i suspect we have something better than the SR-71, it's just so deeply
classified we all have not heard of it yet.

"MSu1049321" wrote in message
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i suspect we have something better than the SR-71, it's just so deeply
classified we all have not heard of it yet.

Possibly, but doubtful, since there's not much sign of any infrastructure to
support it.

There's some suspicious diamond mach cone patterns, but that's really about
it.

"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote

i suspect we have something better than the SR-71, it's just so deeply
classified we all have not heard of it yet.

Possibly, but doubtful, since there's not much sign of any infrastructure to
support it.

There's some suspicious diamond mach cone patterns, but that's really about
it.

Note many, many comments by military and intelligence officers
at all levels since 1991 that we really need better intelligence
capabilities of the sort that SR-71-Prime/Aurora should be providing
if it existed.

Also note the expressions of delight from similar folk when
something like Predator comes along: "Oh, wow, this is great!
It's something we've really needed!" (A paraphrase)

So if it exists and is being used, it doesn't seem to be of much
intelligence value.

All in all, I'd say the evidence points away from an operational
superplane. Though I also think that impressive numbers of black
dollars were spent in the 1980s trying to create such a thing,
and an X-plane or two might have been built (or not).