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In the next edition of this book I can dispense with the earlier
chapter of 15.55 where I thought a 5th Maxwell Equation was needed. Chapt15.60 I do not need a 5th Maxwell Equation #1345 New Physics #1548 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed Alright, last night I gained a new insight that leads me to believe I never needed a 5th equation for the Maxwell Equations and that the 4 Maxwell Equations with magnetic monopoles handles the problem of the idea that magnetic monopoles never repel but are attraction force only. So that a magnetic dipole can be a numerous quantity of magnetic monopoles, regardless of whether they are all "alike in north or south pole". The insight is this UNIVERSAL GEOMETRY, I have been discussing lately, where Euclidean geometry is the union of Elliptic geometry with Hyperbolic geometry. Now in mathematics we have rules of negative times negative is always positive, and negative times positive is always negative, and negative plus negative is always negative, and positive plus negative can be either or. A bunch of rules. Now the deepest and gravest error of 20th and 21st century mathematics was its inability to ever define the concept of infinity by giving its borderline between finite versus infinity. In a very long textbook of mine titled "Correcting Math" I show where this borderline is root-pi 10^603. But perhaps the second greatest grave error of mathematics of the 20th and 21st century was its inability to spot that Geometry axioms cannot be where you make tiddly-wink alternatives to the parallel postulate and thus come up with 3 geometries of mathematics. Rather instead, in geometry three alternatives exist to a number, greater than, equal to, or less than, which relates to 1 line parallel, 0 lines parallel, and more than 1 line parallel. The second gravest error of modern mathematics is the inability to realize this formula: Euclidean geometry = Elliptic geometry unioned with Hyperbolic geometry Now that inability seeps over into this rule that modern mathematics follows, but has never provided for in their axiom sets of either Peano axioms or Hilbert axioms of geometry or any other axiom set of mathematics. It is pulled out of thin air in mathematics. It is these bunch of rules that negative times negative is always positive, etc, that I mentioned above. Now earlier in this textbook, I thought I needed a fifth Maxwell equation of - div*M = 0 to cover the fact that magnetic monopoles are attraction force only. And I devoted a chapter to this. Chapt15.55 the 5th Maxwell Equation where magnetic monopoles are attract-only div*E = r_E div*B = r_B - div*M = 0 - curlxE = dB + J_B curlxB = dE + J_E And now we modify the Dirac Equation with a total of 6 terms rather than 5 terms: (Ad_x + Bd_y + Cd_z + (i/c)Dd_t - mc/h - (div*M)) f_w(p) = 0 But now I am making a new chapter that says I never needed a fifth Maxwell Equation because the magnetic current density term in the Faraday law covers the fact that magnetic monopoles are attraction force only. Chapt15.60 I do not need a 5th Maxwell Equation How does it do that? Well, it is the negative sign in the Faraday law that covers the magnetic monopole to be attraction force only. If in mathematics, you are talking only about Euclidean geometry, then the rules of negative times negative is always positive are rules that apply only to Euclidean geometry. But what if we were doing multiplication in Hyperbolic geometry where all the numbers are negative numbers to begin with and that no positive numbers exist in Hyperbolic geometry, so that in this geometry -2 x -3 is no +6 but rather is -6. So here is the rub, that in Old Math with no axioms to guide them as to these rules, and the rules being far different depending on the geometry they are based in, that the 4 Maxwell Equations already has the fact that in Hyperbolic geometry -2x-3 =-6. In other words, the Maxwell Equations of its 4 equations with magnetic monopoles already surpasses Old Math which made up rules of multiplication and those rules were unwarranted. -- Approximately 90 percent of AP's posts are missing in the Google newsgroups author search starting May 2012. They call it indexing; I call it censor discrimination. Whatever the case, what is needed now is for science newsgroups like sci.physics, sci.chem, sci.bio, sci.geo.geology, sci.med, sci.paleontology, sci.astro, sci.physics.electromag to
be hosted by a University the same as what Drexel
University hosts sci.math as the Math Forum. Science needs to be in education
not in the hands of corporations chasing after the next dollar bill.
Besides, Drexel's Math Forum can demand no fake names, and only 5 posts per day, of all posters which reduces or eliminates most spam and hate-spew, search-engine-bombing, and front- page-hogging. Drexel has
done a excellent, simple and fair author- archiving of AP sci.math posts since May 2012
as seen
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Now I need to include this in my math textbook of Correcting Math for
Old Math was unaware of missing axioms in geometry that allow for rules of sign in addition and multiplication. Now I thought I needed that 5th Maxwell Equation, - div*M = 0 to get the fact that magnetic monopoles are attraction force only. But a clue came in from mathematics that I need no 5th equation and can get that attraction force only from the add on to the Faraday law of magnetic current density. If we consider that Total Geometry is the Euclidean geometry equals the union of Elliptic with Hyperbolic geometries. And Elliptic is all positive numbers only and Hyperbolic is all negative numbers only. Euclidean is both positive and negative numbers. Now there are some rules in mathematics of these: Negative times negative is always positive. Negative times positive is always negative. Negative plus positive depends on which is larger in absolute-value. Negative plus negative is always negative. Now in mathematics they made a huge mistake of omission in that none of those rules are in the axioms of mathematics but are defined as such. Neither in Peano axioms nor in Hilbert axioms of geometry can we derive those rules. And even if we can derive those Rules, they are confined to just Euclidean geometry and need a special new batch of rules if doing Hyperbolic geometry where all numbers are negative numbers so that if you multiply a negative by a negative you end up with a negative. Now none of us can fathom that for mathematics, but it is there in the Maxwell Equations. Now those rules are true only for Euclidean geometry with a Descartes coordinate system. But those rules are meaningless in Elliptic geometry where all the numbers are positive numbers and you cannot have negative numbers even if the absolute value of the subtraction is larger. Likewise the reverse for Hyperbolic geometry where all the numbers are negative numbers and no positives. So how does this relate to no need for a 5th Maxwell Equation? div*E = r_E div*B = r_B - div*M = 0 - curlxE = dB + J_B curlxB = dE + J_E I would like to run a survey of chemistry and astronomy professors of how many of them know the Maxwell Equations with proficiency? I know some chemists can work with the Schrodinger Equation, but can they work proficiently with the Maxwell Equations? Or, is the reason they are astronomers and chemists, is because the Maxwell Equations are too difficult for them? Well, what I need is a attraction force only for the magnetic monopoles, and if the magnetic current density term is always positive and the dB term is always positive - curlxE = dB + J_B while the curlxE term is always negative means that the J_B term must in fact be negative and not positive. The J_B term is always negative, regardless of what the multipliers are. So instead of a whole new 5th Maxwell Equation of -div*M = 0 to obtain a attraction force only, I just look to the magnetic current density to get that attraction force only. So in mathematics, if instead of the Hilbert axioms, we pitch them out and replace them with the 4 Maxwell Equations because we get not only those rules of algebra of negative times negative is always positive but we get all three geometries simultaneously, without having to snip and cut and paste into the parallel axiom. -- Approximately 90 percent of AP's posts are missing in the Google newsgroups author search starting May 2012. They call it indexing; I call it censor discrimination. Whatever the case, what is needed now is for science newsgroups like sci.physics, sci.chem, sci.bio, sci.geo.geology, sci.med, sci.paleontology, sci.astro, sci.physics.electromag to
be hosted by a University the same as what Drexel
University hosts sci.math as the Math Forum. Science needs to be in education
not in the hands of corporations chasing after the next dollar bill.
Besides, Drexel's Math Forum can demand no fake names, and only 5 posts per day, of all posters which reduces or eliminates most spam and hate-spew, search-engine-bombing, and front- page-hogging. Drexel has
done a excellent, simple and fair author- archiving of AP sci.math posts since May 2012
as seen
he http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986 Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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![]() On May 5, 3:49 am, Archimedes Plutonium - Hide quoted text - wrote: On May 5, 1:49 am, john wrote: Archie, my idea is that atoms and galaxies are the same thing, and everything repeats in both directions (smaller and larger scales). The Universe is infinitely large, infinitely old, and infinitely small in my model. You take the atom as a model for the Universe, which is quite intuitive, and many of your ideas I find interesting, because I like people who think outside the box. But my electrons have all been in the ecliptic since 1983. My model hasn't changed since then, only developed. I do use my own name, and I'm glad you are a proponent of that. john Hi John, I get a electron ecliptic inside each and every atom in order to satisfy the 4 Maxwell Equations with magnetic monopoles. I have these 4 equations that derives all of Physics. So with those 4 Equations the question becomes, how do electrons orbit atoms and because those are the only axioms of Physics, they say the electrons must form an ecliptic plane inside the atom, and are similar to how the planets orbit the Sun. Now you say your electrons are in an ecliptic also, and since 1983. How did you come by such a conclusion? I came by it because of the 4 Maxwell Equations. Certainly you must not have by the Maxwell Equations as axioms over all of physics for you would not have talked about black holes in 2005 in your model. So I would be interested in why you came to that electron ecliptic conclusion since you did not use Maxwell Equations. And where in science literature is this electron ecliptic printed or published or recorded with a date of 1983? It has to be more than a website saying 1983, because websites can list any date the owner wants to list. Moroney is not even a scientist and a sheer waste of time to even talk science to. Back in 1990s, Moroney said 231Pu is impossible to exist and just a few years later a German and American scientist nucleosynthesized 231Pu. Worse yet, the man can not even count straight, when he argued in the 1990s that plutonium has 21 suborbitals of s,p,d,f instead of 22. He likes science, but utterly no good in it-- the likely reason he wastes the time of others. AP I googled advanced newsgroup with the words "Sefton electron ecliptic" and 12 hits popped up, one of which was this one: John Sefton Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:07 pm The only planetary system we have studied is our own. It's planets are in mostly ecliptic orbits. This is a. because the Sun threw the material out in the ecliptic and it stayed. b. because orbits out of the ecliptic tend to self-destruct How can we then call Bohr's 'planetary model' that at all, when no planetary system we know of is in orbits very much in different planes as his was. (Of course we only know of the one- ours.) Galaxy matter is ecliptic, spirals anyway. Therefore, so too might the electron clouds tend to organize in the same ecliptic plane. Planets do it. Stars do it. Should electrons be different? Follow different laws? Some people follow different laws, but like planets orbitting in a different plane, they will eventually intersect with another and be seriously re-directed. John [quote:ce7458e727]http://www.petcom.com/~john/ http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/ptanimation.GIF[/quote:ce7458e727] --- end quoting old post of John Sefton --- So I am satisfied that John Sefton had the idea of electron ecliptic earlier than I had the idea here in 2013. Based on his posts, John arrives at an electron ecliptic not through deduction reasoning but through Fractal analogy. In one of John's old posts he embraces black holes and thinks they kick out matter in the center of galaxies which becomes stars and stellar planar ecliptic. So the basis for John's electron ecliptic is fractal geometry for which John seems to hold fractals as the axioms of physics where he says that the pattern in the large scale is the same as the pattern of the small scale. The basis of AP's electron ecliptic, arrived at independently and unknowing of John Sefton's view, is that the Maxwell Equations are the axioms over all of physics and that these equations demand gravity to be EM-gravity and so the planets, stars and galaxies operate under the forces of the Maxwell Equations. So what we see in planets and stars and galaxies can be expected similar geometries of electrons, protons and neutrons inside of atoms since both have to be derived solely and purely from the Maxwell Equations. So I am satisfied that John is not stealing from me. And I am not stealing from John, since I arrived at electron-ecliptic from the Maxwell Equations, and John simply arrived at it from fractal geometry notions. However in John's recent post saying this: On May 4, 2:38 pm, john wrote: Atoms are discs like galaxies. Yes, all the electons in an atom are in the same plane. They have to be, because when they turn they cause magnetism, and those magnetics don't want to fight john galaxy model John is appearing to shift his basis of derivation. John appears to be coming closer to the idea that all facts and data of physics have to be proven via the Maxwell Equations as his line "They have to be, because when they turn they cause magnetism, and those magnetics don't want to fight" Now if John furthers his idea of electron ecliptic by bringing in the Maxwell Equations to prove electron ecliptic, then I expect out of professional science referencing, that John would cite Archimedes Plutonium as the source for the proving of electron ecliptic comes from the Maxwell Equations as axioms over all of physics. The Maxwell Equations as axioms dismisses black-holes as fakery and yet John uses black holes to support electron-ecliptic. However, fractal geometry is itself derived out of the Maxwell Equations for one can build a electric motor the size of the atom and the size of the Cosmos. So fractal geometry is a minor subset of the Maxwell Equations and I should include a chapter in the textbook of Maxwell Equations deriving fractal geometry. John Sefton is a case of a scientist who smells the truth and arrives at a true idea-- electron-ecliptic, even though his method of arrival at that truth is not scientific. It is like Wegener in the early decades of the 1900s sees that a jigsaw puzzle fit of Africa with South America, a sort of fractal geometry in geology, and then claims Continental Drift. But the proof has to wait until sea-floor spreading. But ultimately the proof of Continental Drift has to wait until the Maxwell Equations, and although most geologists of today think the issue is closed with plate tectonics run by convection cells and currents, they are sadly mistaken that the issue of Continental Drift is not closed until the Maxwell Equations fully explain all the features of plate tectonics. One surprising feature is that the plates are run mostly by electromagnetism, much like a pot placed on top a refrigerator and the vibrations of the electric motor of the refrigerator makes the pot drift across the surface. So that convection cells and currents as the drivers of plate tectonics is mostly fiction and exaggeration. Also, let me note that a geology textbook based on the Maxwell Equations governing all of geology is my next book to be posted to Usenet. P.S. Also let me note that Google and its advanced newsgroup search is no longer functional after May 2012 since the science newsgroups were altered by Google, so that Google can be looking more like Facebook and the science newsgroups more like a gossipy and worthless chatroom affair. When instead, Google should have separated the science newsgroups and allowed only full true names of posters, no fake names, and limit each poster to no more than 5 posts per 24 hours and a full archive of all posts. In that way, the science newsgroups would be a **electronic journal of science**, rather than Google's pathetic idea of chatroom science by minions of airheads with their Sam Wormley one liners bumping off every poster on the front page of sci.physics. And the daily flood of off topic spam by HVAC, Kevin, BroilJAB and other assorted kooks whose only intention is to bump every poster off the front page. So Google really has to ask themselves, do they want a **electronic science journal of the science newsgroups** or do they want some trashpile of worthless gossipy glop that makes Google a few pennies more in revenue like Facebook. -- Approximately 90 percent of AP's posts are missing in the Google newsgroups author search starting May 2012. They call it indexing; I call it censor discrimination. Whatever the case, what is needed now is for science newsgroups like sci.physics, sci.chem, sci.bio, sci.geo.geology, sci.med, sci.paleontology, sci.astro, sci.physics.electromag to
be hosted by a University the same as what Drexel
University hosts sci.math as the Math Forum. Science needs to be in education
not in the hands of corporations chasing after the next dollar bill.
Besides, Drexel's Math Forum can demand no fake names, and only 5 posts per day, of all posters which reduces or eliminates most spam and hate-spew, search-engine-bombing, and front- page-hogging. Drexel has
done a excellent, simple and fair author- archiving of AP sci.math posts since May 2012
as seen
he http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986 Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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