Alpha Centauri has a planet

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Nov 17, 1:03*pm, "Androcles" wrote:
""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message

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Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give us
magma and magma is not chemical. *In the same way some of the larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. *Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is given
off. *If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible (Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our Sun).

You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

That's 100% correct.

Our Selene/moon is by far the most considerable influence upon its
planet Earth, than any other planet/moon ratio. 2e20 N/sec of
interactive tidal force has been directly heating Earth to its core
for quite some time (at least for the past 12,600 some odd years).

~ BG
What are Newtons/second in "2e20 N/sec"?
The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee. it's hard to
see how this "interactive tidal force has been directly heating earth
to its core" as you say.
Tides in the ocean are cumulative affects, but those on the core are
not, are they?
John Polasek

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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Nov 17, 1:03 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message

...



Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our Sun).

You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

That's 100% correct.

Our Selene/moon is by far the most considerable influence upon its
planet Earth, than any other planet/moon ratio. 2e20 N/sec of
interactive tidal force has been directly heating Earth to its core
for quite some time (at least for the past 12,600 some odd years).

~ BG
What are Newtons/second in "2e20 N/sec"?
The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee. it's hard to
see how this "interactive tidal force has been directly heating earth
to its core" as you say.
Tides in the ocean are cumulative affects, but those on the core are
not, are they?
John Polasek

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:12:09 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"John Polasek" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Nov 17, 1:03 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message

...



Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our Sun).

You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

That's 100% correct.

Our Selene/moon is by far the most considerable influence upon its
planet Earth, than any other planet/moon ratio. 2e20 N/sec of
interactive tidal force has been directly heating Earth to its core
for quite some time (at least for the past 12,600 some odd years).

~ BG
What are Newtons/second in "2e20 N/sec"?
The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee. it's hard to
see how this "interactive tidal force has been directly heating earth
to its core" as you say.
Tides in the ocean are cumulative affects, but those on the core are
not, are they?
John Polasek

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?
Such heating, if it occurs all, would be governed by a simple
first-order differential equation, characterized by a leakage time
constant probably in the nature of several hours. Since the Moon comes
around every 28 days, the residual heat gain would be truly
negligible.
John Polasek

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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:12:09 -0000, "Androcles"
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"John Polasek" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Nov 17, 1:03 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message

...



Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give
us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the
larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is
given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our
Sun).

You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

That's 100% correct.

Our Selene/moon is by far the most considerable influence upon its
planet Earth, than any other planet/moon ratio. 2e20 N/sec of
interactive tidal force has been directly heating Earth to its core
for quite some time (at least for the past 12,600 some odd years).

~ BG
What are Newtons/second in "2e20 N/sec"?
The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee. it's hard to
see how this "interactive tidal force has been directly heating earth
to its core" as you say.
Tides in the ocean are cumulative affects, but those on the core are
not, are they?
John Polasek

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?
Such heating, if it occurs all, would be governed by a simple
first-order differential equation, characterized by a leakage time
constant probably in the nature of several hours. Since the Moon comes
around every 28 days, the residual heat gain would be truly
negligible.
John Polasek

Bwhahahahahaha!
Is that why there two high tides a day, ****wit?

Honestly, how anyone can be as stupid and ignorant of basic facts
as you is too incredible to be believable...

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:59:21 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"John Polasek" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:12:09 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"John Polasek" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Nov 17, 1:03 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message

...



Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give
us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the
larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is
given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our
Sun).

You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

That's 100% correct.

Our Selene/moon is by far the most considerable influence upon its
planet Earth, than any other planet/moon ratio. 2e20 N/sec of
interactive tidal force has been directly heating Earth to its core
for quite some time (at least for the past 12,600 some odd years).

~ BG
What are Newtons/second in "2e20 N/sec"?
The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee. it's hard to
see how this "interactive tidal force has been directly heating earth
to its core" as you say.
Tides in the ocean are cumulative affects, but those on the core are
not, are they?
John Polasek

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?
Such heating, if it occurs all, would be governed by a simple
first-order differential equation, characterized by a leakage time
constant probably in the nature of several hours. Since the Moon comes
around every 28 days, the residual heat gain would be truly
negligible.
John Polasek

Bwhahahahahaha!
Is that why there two high tides a day?

Honestly, how anyone can be as stupid and ignorant of basic facts
as you is too incredible to be believable...
I slipped up forgetting about the Earth's rotation. But the principle
is unchanged. The mantle time constant is short, no more than an hour,
and there will be negligent accumulation of heat. 1 hour, 12 hrs, 8%
remains of the 1/30,000 of a gee.
In the absence of other documentation, I suggest a simple experiment.
Suspend a mass from a spring and monitor its deflection, to see if it
becomes lighter when the moon passes over head. If the deflection
dx/x = .0003, then the principle is proved, and you should be ready
for phase 2: monitoring the motion of actual dirt.
After that--your big paper.
John Polasek

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:59:21 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"John Polasek" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:12:09 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"John Polasek" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Nov 17, 1:03 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message

...



Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might
give
us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the
larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is
given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our
Sun).

You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

That's 100% correct.

Our Selene/moon is by far the most considerable influence upon its
planet Earth, than any other planet/moon ratio. 2e20 N/sec of
interactive tidal force has been directly heating Earth to its core
for quite some time (at least for the past 12,600 some odd years).

~ BG
What are Newtons/second in "2e20 N/sec"?
The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee. it's hard to
see how this "interactive tidal force has been directly heating earth
to its core" as you say.
Tides in the ocean are cumulative affects, but those on the core are
not, are they?
John Polasek

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?
Such heating, if it occurs all, would be governed by a simple
first-order differential equation, characterized by a leakage time
constant probably in the nature of several hours. Since the Moon comes
around every 28 days, the residual heat gain would be truly
negligible.
John Polasek

Bwhahahahahaha!
Is that why there two high tides a day?

Honestly, how anyone can be as stupid and ignorant of basic facts
as you is too incredible to be believable...
I slipped up forgetting about the Earth's rotation. But the principle
is unchanged. The mantle time constant is short, no more than an hour,
and there will be negligent accumulation of heat. 1 hour, 12 hrs, 8%
remains of the 1/30,000 of a gee.

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
But a tyre is only flat at the bottom, right?


In the absence of other documentation, I suggest a simple experiment.
Suspend a mass from a spring and monitor its deflection, to see if it
becomes lighter when the moon passes over head. If the deflection
dx/x = .0003, then the principle is proved, and you should be ready
for phase 2: monitoring the motion of actual dirt.
After that--your big paper.

We can do better than that, we can measure the heat produced
in a column of water 6 metres high.
http://my.fit.edu/~swood/images/Turbine2.gif
http://www.tidalenergyltd.com/

Of course such schemes get funded better if the public are kept
scared ****less of global warming.
What was it you wanted? 1/30,000 of a volume of well-insulated
magma 6 metres high * area of Earth.
Area of a sphere = 4 piR^2 and R = 12 756.2 km

That's err...976323830640000 / 30,000 = 32,544,127,688 cubic
metres of rock on the move every 12 hours with the crust floating
on it and occasionally venting some heat into the ocean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-kGM-Iz_I

After that--your big padded cell.

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:14:15 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:59:21 -0000, "Androcles"
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"John Polasek" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:12:09 -0000, "Androcles"
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"John Polasek" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Nov 17, 1:03 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message

...



Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might
give
us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the
larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is
given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our
Sun).

You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

That's 100% correct.

Our Selene/moon is by far the most considerable influence upon its
planet Earth, than any other planet/moon ratio. 2e20 N/sec of
interactive tidal force has been directly heating Earth to its core
for quite some time (at least for the past 12,600 some odd years).

~ BG
What are Newtons/second in "2e20 N/sec"?
The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee. it's hard to
see how this "interactive tidal force has been directly heating earth
to its core" as you say.
Tides in the ocean are cumulative affects, but those on the core are
not, are they?
John Polasek

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?
Such heating, if it occurs all, would be governed by a simple
first-order differential equation, characterized by a leakage time
constant probably in the nature of several hours. Since the Moon comes
around every 28 days, the residual heat gain would be truly
negligible.
John Polasek

Bwhahahahahaha!
Is that why there two high tides a day?

Honestly, how anyone can be as stupid and ignorant of basic facts
as you is too incredible to be believable...
I slipped up forgetting about the Earth's rotation. But the principle
is unchanged. The mantle time constant is short, no more than an hour,
and there will be negligent accumulation of heat. 1 hour, 12 hrs, 8%
remains of the 1/30,000 of a gee.

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
But a tyre is only flat at the bottom, right?


In the absence of other documentation, I suggest a simple experiment.
Suspend a mass from a spring and monitor its deflection, to see if it
becomes lighter when the moon passes over head. If the deflection
dx/x = .0003, then the principle is proved, and you should be ready
for phase 2: monitoring the motion of actual dirt.
After that--your big paper.

We can do better than that, we can measure the heat produced
in a column of water 6 metres high.
http://my.fit.edu/~swood/images/Turbine2.gif
http://www.tidalenergyltd.com/

Of course such schemes get funded better if the public are kept
scared ****less of global warming.
What was it you wanted? 1/30,000 of a volume of well-insulated
magma 6 metres high * area of Earth.
Area of a sphere = 4 piR^2 and R = 12 756.2 km

That's err...976323830640000 / 30,000 = 32,544,127,688 cubic
metres of rock on the move every 12 hours with the crust floating
on it and occasionally venting some heat into the ocean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-kGM-Iz_I

After that--your big padded cell.

I watched the moviettes but they did not present any evidence that the
Earth's surface generated any heat. I read somewhere that it's due to
fusion.
I see you are not above cooking the books; R = 6300 km not 12,000.
Anyway, you better doublecheck the units in 2E20 N/sec. It looks to me
like a previously unknown combination--leading to--who knows?

John Polasek

In sci.astro message , Wed,
18 Nov 2009 17:13:08, John Polasek posted:

The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee.

The moon grips us with approximately 1/300,000th of a gee?

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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Nov 17, 1:03 pm, "Androcles"
wrote:
""Anders Eklöf"" wrote in message

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Yousuf Khan wrote:

granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might
give
us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the
larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels
through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is
given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has
planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible
(Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our
Sun).

You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be
anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

That's 100% correct.

Our Selene/moon is by far the most considerable influence upon its
planet Earth, than any other planet/moon ratio. 2e20 N/sec of
interactive tidal force has been directly heating Earth to its core
for quite some time (at least for the past 12,600 some odd years).

~ BG
What are Newtons/second in "2e20 N/sec"?
The moon grips us with approximately 1/30,000th of a gee. it's hard
to
see how this "interactive tidal force has been directly heating
earth
to its core" as you say.
Tides in the ocean are cumulative affects, but those on the core are
not, are they?
John Polasek

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
Its hard NOT to see how this "interactive tidal force has been
directly heating earth to its core" unless you are an idiot who knows
nothing about friction.
Seems to me the crust is damned good heat insulator or my tootsies
would be toasted from molten rock.
Temperatures in the mantle are cumulative affects, but those in the
ocean are not, are they?
Such heating, if it occurs all, would be governed by a simple
first-order differential equation, characterized by a leakage time
constant probably in the nature of several hours. Since the Moon comes
around every 28 days, the residual heat gain would be truly
negligible.
John Polasek

Bwhahahahahaha!
Is that why there two high tides a day?

Honestly, how anyone can be as stupid and ignorant of basic facts
as you is too incredible to be believable...
I slipped up forgetting about the Earth's rotation. But the principle
is unchanged. The mantle time constant is short, no more than an hour,
and there will be negligent accumulation of heat. 1 hour, 12 hrs, 8%
remains of the 1/30,000 of a gee.

Racing car drivers deliberately heat their tyres before and during a
race. How do they do that? By flexing them.
But a tyre is only flat at the bottom, right?


In the absence of other documentation, I suggest a simple experiment.
Suspend a mass from a spring and monitor its deflection, to see if it
becomes lighter when the moon passes over head. If the deflection
dx/x = .0003, then the principle is proved, and you should be ready
for phase 2: monitoring the motion of actual dirt.
After that--your big paper.

We can do better than that, we can measure the heat produced
in a column of water 6 metres high.
http://my.fit.edu/~swood/images/Turbine2.gif
http://www.tidalenergyltd.com/

Of course such schemes get funded better if the public are kept
scared ****less of global warming.
What was it you wanted? 1/30,000 of a volume of well-insulated
magma 6 metres high * area of Earth.
Area of a sphere = 4 piR^2 and R = 12 756.2 km

That's err...976323830640000 / 30,000 = 32,544,127,688 cubic
metres of rock on the move every 12 hours with the crust floating
on it and occasionally venting some heat into the ocean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-kGM-Iz_I

After that--your big padded cell.

I watched the moviettes but they did not present any evidence that the
Earth's surface generated any heat. I read somewhere that it's due to
fusion.

I read somewhere that the Easter Bunny lays chocolate eggs.


I see you are not above cooking the books; R = 6300 km not 12,000.

Fair enough, you are correct on that point. I hate the metric system.

8,000,000,000 cubic metres of rock on the move every 12 hours with
the crust floating on it and occasionally venting some heat into the ocean
and the occasional volcano letting rip. And since Polasek can't see it, it
doesn't happen. There must be some other mythical cause for all that
heat such as stable nuclear fusion, even if Io is doing the same thing
and Luna has slowed to keep the same face toward the Earth and has
since cooled. A tyre is only flat on the bottom.


Anyway, you better doublecheck the units in 2E20 N/sec. It looks to me
like a previously unknown combination--leading to--who knows?

Not my number. See Guth for that one.

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granite stone wrote:
I read an article that the moon's force on the mantle might give us
magma and magma is not chemical. In the same way some of the larger
planets may have a pull on our sun's mantle giving us solar
radiation. Since the sun spins every 6 days the spin travels through
the pull on the sun's mantle, energy, huge amounts of it, is given
off. If all stars are suns, you could say each star has planet
pulling on each sun's mantle.

Google Tidal Forces Io and lots come up from NASA.

You fail to notice, that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), over negligible (Moon's
effect on Earth) to ridiculous (*any* other body's effect on our Sun).


You fail to notice that the energy from tidal heating can be anything
from considerable (like Jupiter's effect on Io), to VERY
CONSIDERABLE (Moon's effect on Earth, causing vulcanism
and earthquakes). Just because the water moves doesn't mean the
crust does not. This is EXACTLY the same process as Jupiter's
effect on Io.

No. You completely lack sense of proportions.

As others have pointed out here, Moon's tidal energy is negligible
compared to the energy from internal heating caused by radioactive
decay. Jahn Polasek can do the math for you...

Besides I was discussing heating - not volcanism, but then again, Moon's
tidal force is negligible also compared to plate tectonics, which is
also powered by the radioactive decay inside Earth.
However, Moon's tidal forces can *trigger* eathquakes at riptide, but
the tension that cause the quakes are built up by plate tectonics.

Besides, *any* tidal effect from the Moon is much stronger in the crust
than in the core.

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