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Old April 28th 09, 02:10 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.astro,sci.geo.geology,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
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"BCC Meteorites" wrote in message
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Space exploration is a complicated endeavor. It hinges on the ever
changing political winds and there is little hope we can purify NASA
into a solely research agency for the public good since it is really
nothing more than a proxy with vested interests for the military
industrial complex. In short NASA is a scam sold as a public agency
but configured to take advantage of weaker nations under false
pretenses. The scientists employed by NASA know this but can't admit
it for fear of retaliation and losing their jobs and careers.

http://www.bccmeteorites.com/misconduct-planetary.html

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Not really sure what your problem is with this.
Military equal government
Nasa equal government.
They are both part of the government
Why should they have disparate goals

mk5000

"oh (damn she;s leaving me)
how did i let it go this far "--omarion


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On Apr 27, 5:54*pm, BCC Meteorites wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:21*pm, "Jonathan" wrote:



The Vision for Space Exploration Should be Killed!


The lesson of Apollo, according to the Apollo 11 astronauts in
their address to Congress, was that Apollo as a goal had too much
emphasis on pure science and exploration, and not balanced
with the tangible needs of society. Hence the short term support.


ADDRESSES BEFORE THE CONGRESS
FOLLOWING THE MOON LANDING


Lieut. Col. Michael Collins
-----------------------------


"We can ignore neither the wealth of the Indies nor the realities of the
immediate needs of our cities, our citizens, or our civics. We cannot
launch our planetary probes from a springboard of poverty
discrimination or unrest."


Neil A Armstrong
-------------------


"Several weeks ago I enjoyed the warmth of reflection on the
true meaning of the spirit of Apollo."


"I stood in the highlands of this nation, near the Continenta Divide,
introducing to my sons the wonders of nature, and pleasures of
looking for deer and elk."


"In their enthusiasm for the view they frequently stumbled on the
rocky trails. But when they looked only to their footing, they
did not see the elk. To those of you who have advocated
looking high we owe our sincere gratitude, for you have granted
us the opportunity to see some of the grandest views of the
Creator."


To those of you who have been our honest critics, we also thank, for
you have *reminded us that we dare not forget to watch the trail.


Col. Edwin W Aldrin
.....................................


" I should've been first! * (~sorry)


http://usinfo.org/PUBS/LivingDoc_e/moonlanding.htm


Long term support, which is CRUCIAL requires clear and tangible
returns for society. Our */National Science Goal/ *should be
oriented around our greatest national needs and problems.
Such as global warming, energy and national defense.


We *used to have such a goal, remember Single Stage to Orbit?
Remember reusable spacecraft?


X-33/VentureStar - What really happened


"Then the hammer blow, as despite the project now appearing
to be back on track,"http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2006/01/x-33venturestar-what-really-ha...


Remember space ports?
Remember Space Solar Power?


Executive Summary


NASA'S SPACE SOLAR POWER EXPLORATORY RESEARCH
AND TECHNOLOGY (SERT) PROGRAMhttp://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10202&page=1


Bush killed /it all/ for a military oriented goal.


Strategic Master Plan FY06 and Beyond
AIR FORCE SPACE COMMAND


"Military forces have always viewed the "high ground" position
as one of dominance and warfare advantage. With rare
exception, whoever owned the high ground owned the fight.
This capability (Space) is the ultimate high ground
of *US military operations."http://www.wslfweb.org/docs/Final%2006%20SMP--Signed!v1.pdf


Want to know where the x-33 really went?


The Military Space Planehttp://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/msp..htm


Pentagon Eyeing Weapons in Spacehttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0314-01.htm


A small base on the Moon for our missile defense sensors
is all the Vision for Space Exploration is about.
But we can't admit that, we must pretend the Moon will
be a stepping stone for some manned Mars mission
perhaps fifty years into the future. A classic straw man.


Instead of building the true infrastructure we need to exploit space.
Single stage to orbit, space ports etc, we're building another one-shot deal.


At worst the space goal of *"To the Moon and Mars", is to devote our
entire National Space Policy so that a select few people can abandon
the earth (colonize) just before all hell breaks loose.


At best our current space goal is a Golden Safari
only for the Ivory Towers.


Unless our space policy is oriented around our greatest global
threats, such as climate change and our energy future, NASA
will deserve to be folded into the military. And we'll
deserve what Nature likely has in store.


Another hundred thousand year ice age, that kills off
just about all life on earth.


* * * Brief introduction to the history of climate
* * * * * * * (scroll down to fig 1.5)


"These data should frighten you. Our time looks about up
* * * * * *.....the pattern is unmistakable.http://muller.lbl.gov/pages/IceAgeBo...f_climate.html


Cheers!


Jonathan


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Space exploration is a complicated endeavor. It hinges on the ever
changing political winds and there is little hope we can purify NASA
into a solely research agency for the public good since it is really
nothing more than a proxy with vested interests for the military
industrial complex. In short NASA is a scam sold as a public agency
but configured to take advantage of weaker nations under false
pretenses. The scientists employed by NASA know this but can't admit
it for fear of retaliation and losing their jobs and careers.

http://www.bccmeteorites.com/misconduct-planetary.html


How very true, all of it. When did you figure this out?

~ BG
 




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