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Old July 25th 10, 12:12 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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New Russian concept for crew protection:
http://rt.com/Sci_Tech/2010-06-21/no...osmonauts.html

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Old July 25th 10, 01:37 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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I hope they at least have a handle on the top, so when something goes wrong
and the Space-Sea Rescue team of the Solar Guard shows up they can easily
carry the egg to safety on their patrol ship. Or at least enough room you
can kiss your A** goodbye and slowly die in peace..





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New Russian concept for crew protection:
http://rt.com/Sci_Tech/2010-06-21/no...osmonauts.html

Pat



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Old July 25th 10, 08:41 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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On 7/24/2010 4:37 PM, Val Kraut wrote:
I hope they at least have a handle on the top, so when something goes wrong
and the Space-Sea Rescue team of the Solar Guard shows up they can easily
carry the egg to safety on their patrol ship. Or at least enough room you
can kiss your A** goodbye and slowly die in peace..


An early US attempt at the concept:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/...wear-in-space/

Pat
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Old July 25th 10, 11:59 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Val Kraut
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When they said egg, I imediately thought of a rescue unit discussed in the
early shuttle design stages. There were the days of $10Million per launch,
50 launches a year. A shuttle malfunctions. another shuttle pulls up along
side. They don't have a full set of spacesuits - so the crew of the dssabled
unit are placed in bags or eggs and sent along a line to the rescur shuttle.
Like a transfer betwen ships at sea.


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Old July 27th 10, 02:59 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Alan Erskine[_3_]
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On 25/07/2010 5:41 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
On 7/24/2010 4:37 PM, Val Kraut wrote:
I hope they at least have a handle on the top, so when something goes
wrong
and the Space-Sea Rescue team of the Solar Guard shows up they can easily
carry the egg to safety on their patrol ship. Or at least enough room you
can kiss your A** goodbye and slowly die in peace..


An early US attempt at the concept:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/...wear-in-space/

Pat


Why do space suits have feet and legs? There's a deep-sea suit, similar
to the JIM that has no feet or legs.
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Old July 27th 10, 10:00 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 7/26/2010 5:59 PM, Alan Erskine wrote:

Why do space suits have feet and legs? There's a deep-sea suit, similar
to the JIM that has no feet or legs.


Because, just like spinning circular space stations, that's the way IT'S
SUPPOSED TO BE!
The outside of the spaceship is made of steel, and you stick down to it
with your magnetic boots as you walk around on it.
Surprisingly, it wasn't von Braun, but Disney Studios that realized that
legs on a zero-G astronaut were just about worthless, and came up with
the far-more-logical "Bottle Suit" concept.*
The Bottle Suit in action; this is probably the origin of the "Space
Pod" in "2001":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCK3q...eature=related

*Although if you think I'm about to stick a red-fuming-nitric-acid and
hydrazine pipe inside of a few inches of my head so they can power a
rocket engine sitting atop my skull, you've got another thought coming. :-D
Still though, the thing is a full-pressure hard suit, and that makes it
miles ahead of our current technology, as there is no danger of getting
the bends while using it...unlike our current low-pressure pure O2
spacesuits which require prebreathing O2 for around an hour to wash the
nitrogen out of your blood.

Pat

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Old July 27th 10, 11:59 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Alan Erskine wrote:
On 25/07/2010 5:41 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
On 7/24/2010 4:37 PM, Val Kraut wrote:
I hope they at least have a handle on the top, so when something
goes wrong
and the Space-Sea Rescue team of the Solar Guard shows up they can
easily carry the egg to safety on their patrol ship. Or at least
enough room you can kiss your A** goodbye and slowly die in peace..


An early US attempt at the concept:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/...wear-in-space/

Pat


Why do space suits have feet and legs? There's a deep-sea suit,
similar to the JIM that has no feet or legs.


Because feet and legs have been found to be immensely useful during EVAs.

--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.


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Old July 28th 10, 01:58 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 7/27/2010 2:59 AM, Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:

Because feet and legs have been found to be immensely useful during EVAs.


On the Moon, maybe.
What is needed is something like eagle's feet for grasping things in
zero G and giving the astronauts a firm support to work with their arms.
And I'm not just referring to the spacesuits either; it would be best if
the astronauts had these as parts of their actual bodies via genetic
manipulation.
This may sound far-fetched, but if we don't start breeding babies with
bird feet on them, the Chinese almost certainly will, thereby taking the
high ground...or high perch...in space. ;-)

Pat
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Old July 29th 10, 07:56 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
dakotatelephone...
On 7/24/2010 4:37 PM, Val Kraut wrote:
I hope they at least have a handle on the top, so when something goes
wrong
and the Space-Sea Rescue team of the Solar Guard shows up they can easily
carry the egg to safety on their patrol ship. Or at least enough room you
can kiss your A** goodbye and slowly die in peace..


An early US attempt at the concept:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/...wear-in-space/



That looks like a teleportation experiment gone wrong.
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."

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Old July 30th 10, 03:04 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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Default Bye-bye spacesuits, hello crew bags.

On 7/29/2010 10:56 AM, GordonD wrote:

An early US attempt at the concept:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/...wear-in-space/



That looks like a teleportation experiment gone wrong.


Yeah, the arm sticking out the front looks very odd.
As was pointed out in the book "The Dream Machines", this thing looks
way too much like a coffin to inspire confidence in its users:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/1crgterm.htm

Pat


 




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