A Space & astronomy forum. SpaceBanter.com

Go Back   Home » SpaceBanter.com forum » Space Science » Policy
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Return to moon: EELV or HLV? Let the market decide (or at least the buyers).



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #1  
Old March 15th 04, 10:59 PM
Alex Terrell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Return to moon: EELV or HLV? Let the market decide (or at least the buyers).

There have been a few discussions here over the merits of using a
Heavy Lift Vehicle to support the moon program.

To summarise the debate (in round numbers), the HLV is typically
mentioned as having a payload to Low Earth Orbit of 75-150 tons, and
could be made from Shuttle derived components. A single launch could
land a 10 cargo on the moon.

The alternative is to use existing EELVs, such as Delta IV-Large.
These typically have a payload of 20-25 tons, so three or four would
be needed for most moon shots. Advantage: Economies of scale, existing
technology, disadvantage: Earth Orbit Rendez-vous, launch capacity,
need for a back up.

Which way should NASA go?

I think NASA should not make the decision. It should lay out it's
launch requirements a few years ahead for two years, for example, in
2012, they would say "our moon programm requires in 2015 and 2016, 4
launches of 18 tons and 4 launches of 24 tons to Lunar orbit". Then
let the bidding commence.

Various groups would then be able to make proposals - so Boeing might
offer salvos of Delta IV-Large launches (28 launches in all), L-M
would offer an Atlas equivelant. Ideally, Arianne and Proton should
also be allowed to bid.

As a further spur to competiton, NASA should sell all Space Shuttle
hardware, production facilities, and IP to the highest bidder. A
bidder could probably buy this for a nominal sum, and develop this
into a Shuttle-C. But a private sector bidder would only do this if
they were sure they could beat Boeing etc on price and performance. If
a bidder miscalculated, they would lose.

NASA would then be out of the launch market, but would be the largest
buyer of tonnage, able to incentivise the market to produce lower cost
launch capability.

The EELV / HLV debate then becomes one of technology and economics (so
it can move to sci.space.tech), and no longer a policy question.
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The New NASA Mission Has Been Grossly Mischaracterized. Dan Hanson Policy 25 January 26th 04 07:42 PM
NEWS: The allure of an outpost on the Moon Kent Betts Space Shuttle 2 January 15th 04 12:56 AM
Moon key to space future? James White Policy 90 January 6th 04 04:29 PM
We choose to go to the Moon? Brian Gaff Space Shuttle 49 December 10th 03 10:14 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 SpaceBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.