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Old February 7th 07, 04:01 AM posted to alt.mens-rights,alt.seduction.fast,alt.support.divorce,soc.men,sci.space.shuttle
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Default Glenn Close in Space

Yet another "stellar" example of how women aren't really
from Venus, or Men from Mars, because we're all products of
our socialization. Poooooor Lisa. How are we all going to
cover for her?

Man. All of the sympathetic spin on this story is enough to
make you puke, no matter how many examples of it we have to
see played out: Female does wrong. A Man is involved.

Humanize her. Humanize her. Humanize her.


Of course, it's not simply the fact that it was a Man who
she snapped over that has to be explained away and
vindicated. It's a double-whammy: She represents a woman
in a super field, where the "women are breaking through"
....the Ozone "Ceiling", this time, I guess.

As so often happens, the earliest ones in show up the
shortcomings of fast-tracking in the women, instead of
making them earn it with some special hazing. Until a field
is fine-tuned enough to force the Men around the women to
compensate for these slackers (and to condition themselves
to be invisible about it) embarrassing incidents occur.

Thereafter, the all-important *image* of the "female
professional" for that field is temporarily in danger. The
image that that they plan to rely on well into eternity
....once they break through and turn it into an entitlement.


A couple months ago, Sunita Williams ****ed up the solar
panels on the space station so that the Men had to go out
and fix them. Meanwhile, everyone's tacitly blaming the
solar panels, instead of the asshole at the controls.

"Oh, they must've been old."

"Roger Charlie." *Thumbs up*
"Let's talk shop like the guys."


Now, it's a variation on the "supermom" theme. "Lisa Nowak
is a human being, like you and me." Bull****. It's because
she's a WOMAN. No other reason.


She drives to the airport wearing diapers? Hello! For her
sake, that had better be an astronaut thing in use with
spacesuits and other times in space when you're incommoded
for hours. Otherwise, how the hell did they miss THAT in
her psyche profile?

Good person? She's married with kids but brings some love
mails between her and another Man to prove her infidelity.
Another character slam.


Then, of course, there's all of that minor weaponry she
brought with her, "simply" to intimidate.

"Oh, boo! hoo! Poor Lisa!" "Us female reporters and our
token males had better start dragging out her high school
pictures and every other "accomplishment" that AA ever gave
to her in order to obfuscate what she did.


Another point is that all of this is only because she
assaulted another female. A lot may be on the line for
female astronauts at the moment, but she can't be allowed to
get away with assaulting another female - albeit, a civilian
- or that's counter-productive to "women's gains".

Had she assaulted a male astronaut for some reason, in
virtually the same exact way, she'd be getting standing
ovations and guest starring on Saturday Night Live.
Instead, she plays out something out of Fatal Attraction and
so she's up on some real charges. **** that ****.





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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/...onaut_arrested



Astronaut charged with attempted murder

By MIKE SCHNEIDER,
Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 55 minutes ago

ORLANDO, Fla. - She was the Robochick. He was Billy-O.
According to police, her obsession with him led her to drive
900 miles from Houston to Orlando, bringing with her a
trenchcoat and wig, armed with a BB gun and pepper spray,
and wearing a diaper to avoid bathroom breaks on the arduous
drive.

Once in Florida, Lisa "Robochick" Nowak apparently
confronted the woman she believed was her rival for the
affections of William "Billy-O" Oefelein. And this tawdry
love triangle has one more twist — it involves two astronauts.

Nowak, 43, a married mother of three who flew on a space
shuttle in July, was charged with attempted murder, accused
of hatching an extraordinary plot to kidnap Colleen Shipman,
who she believed was romantically involved with Oefelein, a
space shuttle pilot.

Specifically, police said Nowak confronted Shipman, who was
in her car at the Orlando airport, and sprayed something at
her, possibly pepper spray.

At first the astronaut was charged with attempted kidnapping
and other counts, and a judge had permitted her release on
bail. Then, in a surprise move, prosecutors upped the charge
to attempted murder, basing it on the weapons and other
items they said they had found with Nowak or in her car: a
pepper spray package, an unused BB-gun cartridge, a new
steel mallet, knife, rubber tubing and large garbage bags.

Nowak's lawyer, Donald Lykkebak, disputed that upgraded
charge, which allowed police to keep the astronaut in jail.
"In the imaginations of the police officers, they extend
these facts out into areas where the facts can't be
supported," said Lykkebak.

As the hearings on charges and bail played out on TV, the
astonishing details about the case were repeatedly broadcast
and quickly made the rounds of office e-mails and Internet
blogs.

The details of the relationships of all three were unclear.
Nowak and Oefelein, who both live in the Houston area, had
trained together as astronauts, but never flew into space
together. Shipman, 30, works at Patrick Air Force Base near
Kennedy Space Center.

Earlier, Nowak was quoted by police as saying she and
Oefelein had something "more than a working relationship but
less than a romantic relationship."

Neither Oefelein nor Shipman could be reached for comment
Tuesday, nor could Nowak's husband be found.

But police found a letter in Nowak's car that "indicated how
much Mrs. Nowak loved Mr. Oefelein," the arrest affidavit
said. And Nowak had copies of e-mails between Shipman and
Oefelein.

Police said Nowak, believing Shipman was romantically
involved with Oefelein, had driven 900 miles from Houston —
wearing diapers in the car so she would not have to make
bathroom stops — to confront Shipman as she arrived in
Orlando on a flight from Houston.

There, police said, Nowak donned a wig and trench coat,
boarded an airport shuttle bus with Shipman and followed her
to her car. Then, crying, Nowak sprayed a chemical into the car.

Shipman drove to a parking lot booth and sought help.

Inside Nowak's car, which was parked at a nearby motel,
authorities copies of e-mails between Shipman and Oefelein,
along with the BB-gun cartridge and other items.

A police affidavit made public Tuesday noted Nowak had
"urinated in a diaper so that she did not need to stop," and
"stealthily followed the victim while in disguise and
possessed multiple deadly weapons."

The affidavit said the circumstances of the case "create a
well-founded fear" and gave investigators "probable cause to
believe that Mrs. Nowak intended to murder Ms. Shipman."

The judge initially had set bail at $15,500 and ordered
Nowak to stay away from Shipman and wear an electronic
monitoring device upon returning to her home in Houston.

"I guess they didn't like the ruling in the court this
morning, did they?" Lykkebak said.

He said that Nowak only wanted to talk to Shipman. Asked
about the weapons, he said, "You can sit and speculate all day."

Saying he was surprised by the case,
NASA spokesman John Ira Petty at Johnson Space Center in
Houston said he was concerned about the people involved and
their families. But, he added, "We try not to concern
ourselves with our employees' personal lives."

A vague profile began to emerge of Nowak, who was graduated
from high school in Maryland in 1981 and the U.S. Naval
Academy in 1985. She has won various Navy service awards.

In a September interview with Ladies' Home Journal, Nowak
said her husband, Richard, "works in Mission Control, so
he's part of the whole space business, too. And supportive
also."

On Tuesday, a Houston neighbor, Bryan Lam, told The
Associated Press that in November he heard the sounds of
dishes being thrown inside the house and the police came.

"I've seen them arguing before," he said.

Nowak, in a NASA interview last year, before her mission
aboard Discovery, as well as in an interview with ABC News,
spoke about the strain her career placed on her family. She
has twin 5-year-old girls and a son who is 14 or 15.

"It's a sacrifice for our own personal time and our families
and the people around us," she said in the NASA interview.
"But I do think it's worth it because if you don't explore
and take risks and go do all these things they everything
will stay the same."

In an in-flight news conference aboard Discovery last
summer, she talked about waiting nearly 10 years for her
first space flight. "It's been a long wait, but it's worth
the wait," she said.

NASA astronauts often have nicknames, at least among their
crewmates and Mission Control. Aboard Discovery last July,
Nowak and crewmate Stephanie Wilson were known as "the
Robochicks" because they operated the shuttle's robotic arm
that checked the spacecraft for damage.

While on the international space station, Nowak's crewmates
sometimes had to duck to avoid her ponytail, which floated
out during weightlessness.

In court early Tuesday, looking downcast, Nowak spoke only
to respond, "Yes," when asked whether she understood the
conditions of her release.

A smiling, put-together woman in her NASA photos, her police
mug shot showed a fatigued, haggard face with scraggly hair,
seemingly destined to become the object of public ridicule.
On Tuesday morning, it was shown on MSNBC's "Imus in the
Morning" next to the oft-posted mug shot of actor Nick Nolte
after his DUI arrest.

Oefelein, a 41-year-old Navy commander nicknamed "Billy-O"
by his comrades, trained with Nowak but never flew with her.
He piloted a Discovery mission in December to the space
station where astronauts rewired the outpost, installed a
new $11 million section and dropped off a new American crew
member.

Oefelein is unmarried but has two children. He began his
aviation career as a teenager, flying floatplanes in Alaska.

As a child, he and his brother spent hours flying model
plans with their father and attending air shows. And old
photo taken of him at age 8 shows him standing next to a
NASA jet.

"I love my time flying," he told The Associated Press last
year before his Discovery mission in December. "This is
another fortunate opportunity I've been blessed with."

The Orlando Sentinel reported Shipman, 30, is an engineer
assigned to the 45th Launch Support Squadron at Patrick air
base, and a Federal Aviation Administration pilot directory
indicates she is certified as a student pilot.

Nowak spent much of the day in glass-fronted cell of about
80 square feet, by herself and under constant observation,
said Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County jail.

Chief astronaut Steve Lindsey, who flew with Nowak to the
space station last July aboard Discovery, and fellow
astronaut Chris Ferguson attended the hearing.

"Our primary concern is her health and well-being and that
she get through this," Lindsey told reporters afterward.
"Her status (with the astronaut corps) has not changed."

Ferguson said he was "perplexed" by Nowak's alleged actions.

An expert familiar with the psychological screening process
NASA uses for its astronauts said she could not explain
Nowak's behavior and stressed the interview process "only
looks at the past" and can't predict future behavior.

At least one retired astronaut, Jerry Linenger, said the
space agency should re-examine its psychological screening
process. With NASA talking about going to Mars, a 2 1/2-year
trip, it would be dangerous for someone to "snap like this"
during the mission, he said.

"An astronaut is probably the most studied human being by
the time you go through your testing, your training,"
Linenger said. "I think there's still a lot of unknowns out
there."

However, Dr. Patricia Santy, a psychiatrist in Ann Arbor,
Mich., and a former NASA flight surgeon who once helped
screen astronauts, said, "People change.

"They can develop psychological problems at any stage of the
way. Perhaps that's part of it. Perhaps it's just, love
triangles occur in offices that you and I work in all the time."

Santy stressed she did not know the details of Nowak's
evaluation. But speaking generally, she said that while
astronauts are extraordinary people, "they put their flight
boots on one foot at a time, after all. They have marital
problems, they have problems with their kids, they have
problems at work."

___

AP National Writer Erin McClam reported from New York for
this story. AP writers Malcolm Ritter in New York, Seth
Borenstein in Washington, Rasha Madkour in Houston, Kelli
Kennedy in Miami and Jim Ellis in Cape Canaveral contributed
to this report.




 




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