Commission on Implementation members named

According to spaceref.com, a White House press release names the
following individuals to be Members of the Presidential Commission on
Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy:

Edward C. Aldridge, Jr. of Virginia
Carleton S. Fiorina of California
Michael P. Jackson of Virginia
Laurie Ann Leshin of Arizona
Lester L. Lyles of Ohio
Paul Spudis of Maryland
Neil deGrasse Tyson of New York
Robert Smith Walker of Pennsylvania
Maria Zuber of Massachusetts

Paul Spudis (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpi/abspudis.html) is the only
name known to me. Any comments on the others? In particular, is there
anyone here to represent the interests (and capabilities) of the
alternative commercial space companies?

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According to spaceref.com, a White House press release names the
following individuals to be Members of the Presidential Commission on
Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy:

Edward C. Aldridge, Jr. of Virginia
Carleton S. Fiorina of California
Michael P. Jackson of Virginia
Laurie Ann Leshin of Arizona
Lester L. Lyles of Ohio
Paul Spudis of Maryland
Neil deGrasse Tyson of New York
Robert Smith Walker of Pennsylvania
Maria Zuber of Massachusetts

Paul Spudis (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpi/abspudis.html) is the only
name known to me. Any comments on the others? In particular, is there
anyone here to represent the interests (and capabilities) of the
alternative commercial space companies?

Pete Aldridge is a former undersecretary of the USAF, with ties to the
Aerospace Corporation, McDonnell-Douglas (now part of Boeing), and
Lockheed-Martin.

Carly Fiorina is chairman and CEO of HP.

The only Michael Jacksons I know are the child molester and the beer guru,
so I don't think this Michael P. Jackson is either one of them.

Maria Zuber is a Mars scientist at MIT.

I'm not familiar with the others, but Mark Whittington's post gives some
more details.


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On 31 Jan 2004 05:21:09 GMT, "Jorge R. Frank"
wrote:

The only Michael Jacksons I know are the child molester and the beer guru,
so I don't think this Michael P. Jackson is either one of them.

While Michael Jackson is easily the weirdest celebrity in the world
today, I honestly do not believe he is a child molester. Stupid to put
himself in a position where accusations like that would be easy to
make, yes. A pedophile, no.

This case has the smell of "DA out to make a name for himself" and
"get Michael to settle out of court for millions" all over it.

Brian

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:35:51 -0600, in a place far, far away, Brian
Thorn made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:

On 31 Jan 2004 05:21:09 GMT, "Jorge R. Frank"
wrote:

The only Michael Jacksons I know are the child molester and the beer guru,
so I don't think this Michael P. Jackson is either one of them.

While Michael Jackson is easily the weirdest celebrity in the world
today, I honestly do not believe he is a child molester. Stupid to put
himself in a position where accusations like that would be easy to
make, yes. A pedophile, no.

Is there any available evidence that Michael Jackson is smart?

He seems to have lived a life insulated from consequences for his
behavior--I have no trouble believing that he figured he could
continue to do so.

Joe Strout wrote in message ...
According to spaceref.com, a White House press release names the
following individuals to be Members of the Presidential Commission on
Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy:

Edward C. Aldridge, Jr. of Virginia
Carleton S. Fiorina of California

I sure hope this isn't that idiot in charge of Hewlett-Packard.

From a post on the a
href='http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=234677&page=2"St
raight Dope Message Board/a:

Edward C Aldridge was (until last March) Undersecretary of Defense for
Acquistion, Technology and Logistics. In the past, he was president of both
The Aerospace Corporation and McDonnell-Douglas Electronic Systems.

Carleton Fiorina is CEO of Hewlitt-Packard, and has split her time between
tech management jobs and more strictly commercial jobs

Michael P. Jackson was a VP at Lockheed Martin when he became Bush's pick to
be Deputy Secretary of Transportation. As of
December 11th, someone else now fills that post.

Laurie Ann Leshin is a planetary geochemist at Arizona state University

Lester Lyles is a retired air Force General, and was Director of the
Ballistic Missile Defense Organization until 2000, when he was assigned to
be commander of the Air Force Materiel Command at Wright-Patterson AFB.

Paul Spudis is a visiting scientist with the Lunar and Planetary Institute
in Houston

Neil deGrasse Tyson is from the Rose Center for Earth and Space at the
American Museum of Natural History.

Robert Smith Walker was a Representative from Pennsylvania for 20 years, and
served on the Committee on Science in the 104th Congress

Maria Zuber is a Mars scientist at MIT

On 1 Feb 2004 16:58:33 -0800, in a place far, far away,
(Ross A. Finlayson) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:


Aldridge is a near compleat beltway insider, and perhaps a rocket
scientist. Fiorina is not a rocket scientist. Lyles is Air Force,
Leshin and Zuber are smart and productive academic rocket scientists,
Tyson is from New York, Walker is a K-Street goon, and near compleat
beltway insider, Spudis is a squid rocket scientist, and Jackson is a
high level Washington suit.

Space scientists are not "rocket scientists" (which don't really
exist).

Basically the administration's plan is to militarize space, and to use
massive NASA outlays to support the fringes of ballistic missile
defence, as it is drowning.

You're funny.

Like I said, I'm not a rocket scientist. I hope to be a rocket
scientist at some point. I have read a lot of science fiction, almost
as much as the next guy!

If you want to be one, the first thing you should understand is that
they don't exist.

(Ross A. Finlayson) wrote:
Like I said, I'm not a rocket scientist. I hope to be a rocket
scientist at some point. I have read a lot of science fiction, almost
as much as the next guy!

Laying off the hallucinogens will help you in your goal.

D.
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(Ross A. Finlayson) wrote in message . com...
I'm sure correspondence is readily addressable to them. What is there
to tell them?

"Hey, while you're at it, don't plan for failure."

"Implement the Earth to Orbit Mass Driver!"

"The public expects success."

"Gather a broad range of opinions."

"Don't put your eggs in one basket, support parallel tracks."

...
It's the stated purpose of that commission to explain how the moon
base and Mars outreach capacities are to be, under basically the
unchanged NASA budget. There are various ways to do it, and they all
involve cheap access to space.
...


The commission has a public hearing Wednesday.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040209/dcm064_1.html

Send comments to the commission:

http://www.moontomars.org/notices/contact.asp

I hope to read the transcript of the hearing from that website that day.

Ross F.

The Moon, Mars, and Beyond, MMB, Commission, had a hearing last week.
Video recordings are on the www.moontomars.org website in the
"RealMedia" streaming web video format. I do not use such a program,
and am hoping that someone could distill into a few hundred words the
stated directions of that hearing. Actually, I want to read the words
of the full transcript.

I posted last week to through the website there some input,
essentially I said to support research into electric gun launch to
space and that people expect inspiration from the space program.
Hopefully many of the rest of you have put forth your views that the
cost of access to space is about the only factor preventing largescale
use of space, and to support viable alternative launch methods.

If someone could briefly recap the hearing's contents or otherwise
provide more information than was available in the news reports of
same that would provide us some talking points on the commission's
progress.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ed...oon+commission
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/...oon+commission

The next hearing is tentatively schedule for March 3-4 in Dayton,
Ohio, at an Air Force base there.

Conflict of interest questions have been raised, about Aldridge by
McCain.

The panel "promises" to "read all comments."

Anyways, I'm hoping that someone hear can point me to the written,
text, transcript of the proceedings of that hearing there.

Support alternate launch tracks and EGLTS, the realistic moon base,
and construction on the moon.

Ross F.