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Old January 9th 07, 09:03 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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FYI:

Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Click on

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/einstein/node3.html

"In any event, we may summarize Einstein's equation as follows:
(2)

This equation says that positive energy density and positive pressure
curve spacetime in a way that makes a freely falling ball of point
particles tend to shrink. Since E = mc^2 and we are working in units
where c = 1, ordinary mass density counts as a form of energy density.
Thus a massive object will make a swarm of freely falling particles at
rest around it start to shrink. In short: gravity attracts."

Written in 1996 before the discovery of exotic dark energy dominating
the cosmos.

"We promised to state Einstein's equation in plain English, but have not
done so yet. Here it is:

Given a small ball of freely falling test particles initially at
rest with respect to each other, the rate at which it begins to shrink
is proportional to its volume times: the energy density at the center of
the ball, plus the pressure in the x direction at that point, plus the
pressure in the y direction, plus the pressure in the z direction."

OK, now for any quantum field in absence of Casimir plates to begin with:

ZPF energy density = - pressure in any Cartesian direction

this comes from

1. special relativity Lorentz covariance

2. Einstein's equivalence principle that, in this case may be
conveniently, though technically arcane, restated as: non-geodesic
g-forces in observer-detector LNIF non-inertial frames (created by
non-gravity forces) are 100% inertial geometrodynamic level connection
fields without any non-zero tensor part in the absence of torsion fields.
i.e. anti-Z formulation! ;-)

so that w = -1

In general we want w - 1/3 in presence of Casimir type boundary
constraints. In that case positive source energy density is "exotic"
creating anti-gravity repulsion.

On Jan 7, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:


On Jan 7, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Mark McCandlish wrote:
Hi Jack;
While I may not have the math quite right, I believe I did mention a
"positive and negative ZPF pressure", but my perspective was based on the
(then) recent paper in Physics Essays, by Miguel Alcubierri, whose
paper I cited described the modification of the local spacetime metric
as and "expansion" and "contraction" of the metric to produce a vector
upon which the vehicle creating the distortion would move-- all without
violating GR.

I replied to Mark:

Well that would be great if you did. Can you confirm that with some
authenticated documentation? If so, then you beat me to it by 8 years!
Precognitive remote viewing on your part? I will cite you on this if you
can send me some proof as I have been saying this in my books and papers
only since 2002 spurred by the discovery of dark energy starting in
1999. How come Puthoff never mentioned it? What did it for me is my
realization that not only is 73% of the universe negative pressure dark
zero point energy virtual quanta, but that 23% is positive pressure zero
point energy virtual quanta and only 4% is on-mass-shell real quanta of
leptons, quarks and gauge bosons.



http://www-conf.slac.stanford.edu/ss...age_12_jpg.htm


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6235751.stm

On Jan 7, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Mark McCandlish wrote:

"Hi Jack;
While I may not have the math quite right, I believe I did
mention a "positive and negative ZPF pressure", but my perspective was
based on the (then) recent paper in Physics Essays, by Miguel
Alcubierri, whose
paper I cited described the modification of the local spacetime metric
as and "expansion" and "contraction" of the metric to produce a vector
upon which the vehicle creating the distortion would move-- all without
violating GR. My personal view is that the application of the plate
capacitors as in the ARV layout is only incidental to this distortion of
the metric and only serves to "shape" the propulsive effect for
directional changes, much like the swash plate on the main rotor of a
helicopter."

I replied:

I don't understand how your plate capacitors will generate the different
pressures in different parts of the fuselage needed for the drive to work.

Essentially we have "ZPF energy density" plotted on vertical in picture
below. Without Russian torsionics from localizing the Poincare group to
get string theorie's 10D manifold, we could not have variations in
space and time of Einstein's cosmological constant Lambda
essential to how the alien ET flying saucers work!
htttp://shipov.com



http://www.usask.ca/psychology/sarty/warp/warp.gif


http://www.astrosciences.info/WarpDr...s/image024.jpg
This last image is best as it shows the blue shift of repulsive dark ZPF
energy negative pressure and the red shift of attractive dark ZPF
"matter" positive pressure. Here it is the quantum vacuum pressure that
is plotted. The ship moves to left creating its own geodesic.

However, I also have something like capacitors i.e. nano quantum wells
with 2D anyon condensates phase locked to the coherent vacuum ODLRO
Goldstone phases in my theory of emergent tetrads and spin connections.

McClandish: "You have to remember my viewpoint is only based on
eye-witness testimony,"

Me: Nothing better than that, e.g. Paul Hill's deductions in "UFOs" best
book in the field.

McClandish: "my own study of the peer-reviewed papers, my once-frequent
discussions with Hal (Puthoff) and personal observations of these craft
in action on multiple occasions. If you asked me to solve a physics
equation, I would be completely lost."

Me: Again how come Hal has never published anything like this before I
did in 2002? Does Hal have a secret set of papers for Black Ops and he
only shows the ZPF Haisch stuff and his PV stuff as a smoke screen to
throw competitors off the track? I mean disinformation.

Regards,
Mark

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Sarfatti"
To: "Mark McCandlish"
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: Hubble makes 3D dark matter map & flying saucer propulsion


I mean since I have been listening. Also exactly how to control ZPF was
not known back then in 1994. Did you mention the key notion how one
needs both ZPF of positive and negative pressure to get weightless warp
drive without g-forces? That's the key insight from me, to my
knowledge, that Hal Puthoff has never even acknowledged. If you have
that on record back in 1994 show me and I will cite it. It's not enough
to say simply "ZPF" without some at least qualitative details.
Jack Sarfatti


On Jan 7, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Mark McCandlish wrote:
Hi, Jack;
The suggestion that no discussion about real UFO propulsion technology
has occurred on Coast To Coast AM is not true. I spoke about a ZPF
connection to this technology starting in late 1994, and while the
aspects that you are dealing with are far beyond the comprehension of
99% of the audience, there are those with some understanding of the
physics who WILL listen, and listen closely. I know; I have
corresponded with many of them. Since '94 I have been on the program
about six times.

... deleted sensitive content on Black Ops ...




Begin forwarded message:

From: Jack Sarfatti
Date: January 7, 2007 2:36:31 PM PST
To: Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars

Subject: Hubble makes 3D dark matter map & flying saucer propulsion

Most people in UFOlogy and at NASA/STAIF advanced concepts in
propulsion are simply not able to follow the physics I am talking
about here. It falls on deaf ears in America but not in Russia and
not in other places hostile to America. Even on Coast to Coast AM
they have not at all talked about the real UFO technology but have
only had disinformation on The Right Stuff presented.

Begin forwarded message:
From: Jack Sarfatti
Date: January 7, 2007 2:17:27 PM PST
To: Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars

Subject: BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Hubble makes 3D dark
matter map

This is consistent with my theory that both dark energy and dark
matter are w = -1 zero point quantum fluctuation energy of
negative and positive pressure respectively. The w = -1 positive
pressure of negative energy density mimics w = 0 Cold Dark Matter
(CDM) for distant observers because it clumps under its own self-
attraction opposite to dark energy that tends to spread from its
self-repulsion. However, put the two together properly (needs
Russian torsion fields) to get weightless warp drive

Jack Sarfatti

"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
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On Jan 7, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Kim Burrafato wrote:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6235751.stm


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Old January 9th 07, 02:09 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Double-A I have posted my "Space foreshortning theory",and it says at
the speed of light the object foreshortens space in front of it to zero.
Zero space zero time. Best to go with this theory because it fits by a
factor of 100% Best always to never tamper with the speed of the
photon,or the spin speed of an electron. They are constant. It you do
you are up against my "Spin is in theory" one of my best ideas in resent
times To go faster than light you would have to go into the region
of space that is convex,and that would prove my "concave convex gravity
theory" that gives the answer to our inflating universe at an
accelerating rate. Well Double-A I could go on and on giving out my
theories on the universe but I'm a humble old man,and my ego won't allow
it Go figure Bert

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Old January 9th 07, 02:22 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Double-A I have posted my "Space foreshortning theory",and it says at
the speed of light the object foreshortens space in front of it to zero.
Zero space zero time. Best to go with this theory because it fits by a
factor of 100% Best always to never tamper with the speed of the
photon,or the spin speed of an electron. They are constant. It you do
you are up against my "Spin is in theory" one of my best ideas in resent
times To go faster than light you would have to go into the region
of space that is convex,and that would prove my "concave convex gravity
theory" that gives the answer to our inflating universe at an
accelerating rate. Well Double-A I could go on and on giving out my
theories on the universe but I'm a humble old man,and my ego won't allow
it Go figure Bert



Einstein himself thought that a man could travel around the entire
universe in his lifetime (he thought it was closed) by going close
enough to c, but by the time he got back, the Earth would probably no
longer even be here.

Double-A

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Old January 9th 07, 04:20 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Double-A Einstein also told us if you went at "c" you would be every
where at once. Wheeler and Feynman even wrote a tongue and cheek paper
on one electron traveling at "c" and being every where at once so that
one electron was all the universe needed.That is playing around with far
out thinking. I myself have had thoughts that the universe only needed
one "graviton" that was instantaneous and was the source of gravitation.
Just bouncing thoughts around,and gave it up because it did not fit
Bert

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Old January 9th 07, 09:48 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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In article .com,
"Double-A" wrote:

Einstein himself thought that a man could travel around the entire
universe in his lifetime (he thought it was closed) by going close
enough to c, but by the time he got back, the Earth would probably no
longer even be here.

Double-A


It's a standard result that if you could accelerate constantly, never
hitting 'c' but instead continually adding another recurring 9 to the
..999999 then time dilation would mean you could travel phenomenal
distances in your own lifetime thanks to time dilation, but at the
expense of cosmological time scales to everyone else.

For an observer falling into a Schwarzschild black hole, as I recall if
the observer was to look back just as they crossed the event horizon
they would see all events happen one after the other.

Considering that for SMBH's the event horizon could be crossed with nary
an effect of tidal gravity on a human, it would be a wonderful view....

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wrote:

FYI:

Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Click on

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/einstein/node3.html

"In any event, we may summarize Einstein's equation as follows:
(2)

This equation says that positive energy density and positive pressure
curve spacetime in a way that makes a freely falling ball of point
particles tend to shrink. Since E = mc^2 and we are working in units
where c = 1, ordinary mass density counts as a form of energy density.
Thus a massive object will make a swarm of freely falling particles at
rest around it start to shrink. In short: gravity attracts."


[screed flushed]

So does this mean you understand and buy into Sarfatti's word salads?
 




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