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Old December 5th 06, 01:41 PM posted to alt.astronomy
G=EMC^2 Glazier[_1_]
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I have posted it takes 6 trillion Suns to create a mass great
enough,and dense enough for the explosion of a black hole and release
its singularity into the cosmos. I relate this great
mass density by theorizing it to 10^80 grams per cubic centimeter.
That's is "1" followed by eighty zeros) Best to keep in mind to compare
this with the density of water which is "1 gram per cubic centimeter.
Having this information makes for good science during the first
trillionth of a second of a big bang Bert

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Old December 5th 06, 08:41 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
I have posted it takes 6 trillion Suns to create a mass great
enough,and dense enough for the explosion of a black hole and release
its singularity into the cosmos. I relate this great
mass density by theorizing it to 10^80 grams per cubic centimeter.
That's is "1" followed by eighty zeros) Best to keep in mind to compare
this with the density of water which is "1 gram per cubic centimeter.
Having this information makes for good science during the first
trillionth of a second of a big bang Bert



Bert, inside a theoretical black hole, time effectively stands still,
so how can an explosion ever happen there?

Double-A

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Old December 5th 06, 09:47 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Double-A wrote:
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
I have posted it takes 6 trillion Suns to create a mass great
enough,and dense enough for the explosion of a black hole and release
its singularity into the cosmos. I relate this great
mass density by theorizing it to 10^80 grams per cubic centimeter.
That's is "1" followed by eighty zeros) Best to keep in mind to compare
this with the density of water which is "1 gram per cubic centimeter.
Having this information makes for good science during the first
trillionth of a second of a big bang Bert



Bert, inside a theoretical black hole, time effectively stands still,
so how can an explosion ever happen there?

Bert and Double-A, I would suppose it means that one would have a heck
of a large singularity!

Think about that for a moment.

My singularity is bigger than your singularity, Bert.

Cordially,

Raving

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Old December 5th 06, 10:41 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Raving wrote:
Double-A wrote:
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
I have posted it takes 6 trillion Suns to create a mass great
enough,and dense enough for the explosion of a black hole and release
its singularity into the cosmos. I relate this great
mass density by theorizing it to 10^80 grams per cubic centimeter.
That's is "1" followed by eighty zeros) Best to keep in mind to compare
this with the density of water which is "1 gram per cubic centimeter.
Having this information makes for good science during the first
trillionth of a second of a big bang Bert



Bert, inside a theoretical black hole, time effectively stands still,
so how can an explosion ever happen there?

Bert and Double-A, I would suppose it means that one would have a heck
of a large singularity!

Think about that for a moment.

My singularity is bigger than your singularity, Bert.

Cordially,

Raving



Raving,

The singularity is theorized to be a very small object at the very
center of a theoretical black hole. The event horizon can be large,
but that is just the spherical boundary at the distance from the
singularity where the escape velocity becomes greater than the speed of
light. This distance called the Schwarzschild radius is interesting to
contemplate in that GR predicts that space would become so contracted
inside a black hole that the actual radius would be much greater than
the circumference divided by 2pi. This is how speculation arises that
a whole other universe could exist inside a black hole. I would think
that the Schwarzschild radius would have to be considered a radius
projected onto flat space. It might be more realistic to talk about a
Schwarzschild circumference.

Double-A

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Old December 5th 06, 11:13 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Double-A wrote:
Raving wrote:
Double-A wrote:
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
I have posted it takes 6 trillion Suns to create a mass great
enough,and dense enough for the explosion of a black hole and release
its singularity into the cosmos. I relate this great
mass density by theorizing it to 10^80 grams per cubic centimeter.
That's is "1" followed by eighty zeros) Best to keep in mind to compare
this with the density of water which is "1 gram per cubic centimeter.
Having this information makes for good science during the first
trillionth of a second of a big bang Bert


Bert, inside a theoretical black hole, time effectively stands still,
so how can an explosion ever happen there?

Bert and Double-A, I would suppose it means that one would have a heck
of a large singularity!

Think about that for a moment.

My singularity is bigger than your singularity, Bert.

Cordially,

Raving



Raving,

The singularity is theorized to be a very small object at the very
center of a theoretical black hole. The event horizon can be large,
but that is just the spherical boundary at the distance from the
singularity where the escape velocity becomes greater than the speed of
light. This distance called the Schwarzschild radius is interesting to
contemplate in that GR predicts that space would become so contracted
inside a black hole that the actual radius would be much greater than
the circumference divided by 2pi. This is how speculation arises that
a whole other universe could exist inside a black hole. I would think
that the Schwarzschild radius would have to be considered a radius
projected onto flat space. It might be more realistic to talk about a
Schwarzschild circumference.

Oh, there is a problem, Double-A.

Um ... At the center of the black hole, all the gravitational forces
are pulling one away from the center.

Tempus fugit.

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Old December 6th 06, 03:43 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Raving wrote:
Double-A wrote:
Raving wrote:
Double-A wrote:
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
I have posted it takes 6 trillion Suns to create a mass great
enough,and dense enough for the explosion of a black hole and release
its singularity into the cosmos. I relate this great
mass density by theorizing it to 10^80 grams per cubic centimeter.
That's is "1" followed by eighty zeros) Best to keep in mind to compare
this with the density of water which is "1 gram per cubic centimeter.
Having this information makes for good science during the first
trillionth of a second of a big bang Bert


Bert, inside a theoretical black hole, time effectively stands still,
so how can an explosion ever happen there?
Bert and Double-A, I would suppose it means that one would have a heck
of a large singularity!

Think about that for a moment.

My singularity is bigger than your singularity, Bert.

Cordially,

Raving



Raving,

The singularity is theorized to be a very small object at the very
center of a theoretical black hole. The event horizon can be large,
but that is just the spherical boundary at the distance from the
singularity where the escape velocity becomes greater than the speed of
light. This distance called the Schwarzschild radius is interesting to
contemplate in that GR predicts that space would become so contracted
inside a black hole that the actual radius would be much greater than
the circumference divided by 2pi. This is how speculation arises that
a whole other universe could exist inside a black hole. I would think
that the Schwarzschild radius would have to be considered a radius
projected onto flat space. It might be more realistic to talk about a
Schwarzschild circumference.

Oh, there is a problem, Double-A.

Um ... At the center of the black hole, all the gravitational forces
are pulling one away from the center.

Tempus fugit.



Kerr did calculate that the ring singularity was repulsive.

Double-A

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Old December 6th 06, 12:52 PM posted to alt.astronomy
G=EMC^2 Glazier[_1_]
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Double-A If there is motion inside a black hole there is time. The
motion takes place from the event horizon to the BH core. Bert

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Old December 6th 06, 01:06 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Raving A short description of a singularity is "Location where the
fabric of space or spacetime suffers a great rupture. Hard to relate
that to any rupture in our spacetime. Most scientist agree
that a singularity is a point in size That this contraction inside a BH
is a region of infinite matter density,infinite energy.and infinite
temperature.This comes out of GR. Now if you were comparing my
Pee-Air with your Jock that is another story. Lets leave it as two
unknowns. Bert

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Old December 6th 06, 10:33 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Double-A If there is motion inside a black hole there is time. The
motion takes place from the event horizon to the BH core. Bert



I don't think there could be any motion inside a black hole, unless it
is motion of space-time itself.

Double-A

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Old December 7th 06, 03:38 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Double-A If there is motion inside a black hole there is time. The
motion takes place from the event horizon to the BH core. Bert



I don't think there could be any motion inside a black hole, unless it
is motion of space-time itself.


According to standard theory there's motion inside the event
horizon. In fact, all trajectories lead inevitably towards
the singularity at the center. In this regard, the spacial
coordinate becomes timelike in character -- outside a black
hole we experience time as a relentless progression into the
future without deviation, and in a similar fashion, below an
event horizon all trajectories lead inevitably towards the
singularity. Once ingested, there's no escape!


 




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