Icy ProtoMoon, a Lithobreaking Arrival

The mere dreaded thought of an icy ProtoMoon and of it's lithobreaking
arrival is not a joke. This topic simply represents the regular laws of
physics and the slim but otherwise perfectly reasonable odds of this
event happening, especially if such an icy ProtoMoon had been thrown our
way from a nearby star/solar system, and as though gravity dragged
and/or accommodated into our solar system along with the arrival of
Venus (possibly as having belonged to Venus).

I also tend to believe that "Earth w/o magnetosphere, w/o moon" is also
somewhat interrelated to one another, as well as unavoidably
interrelated to the somewhar recent arrival of our moon as having
established the global tilt that shifted us away from being a nearly
monoseason planet with only solar driven tides and for otherwise as
having deposited quite a fair amount of salty ice for the environment of
Earth to deal with.

In the past our Earth was clearly a bit more surface roundish/smooth as
having hosted somewhat less vertically imposing terrain from ocean
depths to the peaks of mountainous creations that transpired rather
quickly (as though having been antipode induced), and certainly as
having much less erosion as deposited into our oceans or as otherwise
having to deal with, and of what little surface water there was already
here to behold was much less salty and either extensively sub-frozen
and/or at least getting monoseason frosted enough as to reaching that
icy line of frost to within the tropics of Cancer/Capricorn. This
nearly monoseason of Earth's early environment was also allowing those
early forms of humanity to essentially staying put, demanding few if any
migrations except within the relatively temperate life zone as
associated within the Tropics of Cancer/Capricorn, that is unless
something truly horrific of geophysics from within the planetology of
Earth and/or of mother nature's surface environment was taking place,
whereas I believe most everything north or south of their
Cancer/Capricorn line of frost would have been at risk of having been
complicated if not unlivable for much of the time, especially throughout
a typical ice-age deep freezing cycle that lasted for a good ten to
twenty some odd thousands of years at a whack.

Here's the latest of topic related news that I'd thought you can use, or
perhaps not (depending on your mindset), as to my somewhat dyslexic way
of contemplating on behalf of the most accepted what-if our moon had in
fact been made entirely of Earth, whereas of 1 Ga those resulting tidal
affects would have been at least half if not nearly twice again as
impressive (if not nearly tsunami worthy), and of 2 Ga would have been
generating those somewhat continuous tsunami class of bulging tidal
waves as worth a few good magnitudes of their having been 5 to 10 times
worse off than nowadays, not to mention what our molten mantle being
seriously motivated along via such horrific mascon forces, as a somewhat
super-rotation mass of thermal and magnetic force taking place just
below the crust of Earth.

If we gave our moon a supposed lifespan of being 4 Ga (4 billion years
old)

moon @0.0 Ga = 384,400 km from Earth / orbital energy 2e20 joules

moon @ -1 Ga = 332,000 km from Earth / orbital energy 3e20 joules

moon @ -2 Ga = 256,000 km from Earth / orbital energy 5e20 joules

moon @ -3 Ga = 192,000 km from Earth / orbital energy 8e20 joules
(possibly 1e21 joules)

moon @ -4 Ga = 0.0 km as supposedly emerging itself from Earth
(antipode launch force/energy at 6 km/s = 5.3e30 J ????

Secondary impact/antipode ejected mass 7.35e22 x 2 = 14.7e22 kg
(I'm using 2x the mass of our moon because not everything that goes up
became moon)

Geophysical whatever antipode launch exit velocity of roughly 6 km/s
Ke = .5MV2 7.35e22 x 36e6 = 265e28 joules
Kf = MV2 14.7e22 x 36e6 = 529e28 joules

Of course, silly Kroll and myself are perhaps still the two most
resident village idiots (AKA messengers from hell) as having been
leaning ourselves towards the more likely icy protomoon sort of impact,
as having delivered a very salty and rather substantially icy worth of a
glancing sucker-punch (perhaps involving more than one such
lithobreaking and lunar iceberg deploying encounter) that which
established the major extent of Earth's tilt (thereby having created
seasons) and otherwise having subsequently produced the likes of our
Arctic ocean basin and/or Hudson Bay, along with the geophysical
antipode result having produced the sorts of horrific vertical land mass
and otherwise extremely mountainous terrain, as having been rather
abruptly pushed up at roughly those 180 degree longitude/latitude
antipode locations.

Since there's no apparent scientific nor physics related argument
against really big and nasty stuff having in fact impacted Earth from
time to time, and since the regular laws of physics and/or of
planetology should not have changed, whereas this icy ProtoMoon arrival
as of the last ice age seems to offer a viable degree of it's own
what-if on behalf of representing a perfectly rational set of arguments,
that's at least worth keeping on the public table so that others having
an honest thought from their open mindset might constructively
contribute as to sharing their expertise or best swag, instead of merely
enforcing upon and/or hiding behind the usual mainstream naysayism, and
of otherwise having to apply evidence denial and/or total author/topic
banishment upon this argument.

How Asteroids Trigger Volcanos / By Robert Roy Britt
A few other words of wisdom about Earth getting a serious hicky via
asteroid;
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._030204-1.html
Unfortunately, this author doesn't contribute anything as to whatever a
glancing blow via an icy protomoon might have represented. Therefore,
whatever horrific impact created ocean basins and/or antipode results
are not a part of this equation. However the following sub-topic is at
least an honest consideration as to what such a impactor of having
produced local and/or antipode induced event(s) might have helped to
have created the likes of Hawaii.

Asteroid May Have Created Hawaii

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...id_010731.html
"Rocking the other side of the planet"

"Mark Boslough and his colleagues at Sandia National Laboratories have
modeled asteroid impacts. In a 1996 paper, they predicted that the
seismic energy from an impact travels through the Earth and is strongly
focussed at the antipode to the impact, near the boundary of the crust
and the hot, molten mantle."

Of course mountains that were not created via any volcanic process and
are less old than you'd think, and seemingly as having been created
within an extremely short amount of time, whereas these horrific
vertical formations seem as though more antipode generated than not.

This somewhat testy "Icy ProtoMoon" and of it's "Lithobreaking Arrival"
topic represents that within my open mindset there's a great deal of our
past, present and future that's at stake of getting revised, of which
nearly everything under the sun that's apparently orbiting our
infomercial bulging and otherwise badly polluted flat Earth is at risk
of falling off the edge, such as most everything from their Old
Testament certified 'Big Bang' theory to that of our supposedly having
walked on the moon is at risk. Sorry about that. Secondly, clearly my
extremely poor old PC and that of my limited Mailgate/Usenet access are
still each getting summarily stalked, trashed and/or terminated via
spermware/****ware at every possible turn in this extremely bumpy Usenet
road, as though I'm somehow the ultimate bad guy that's responsible for
rocking a bit more than my fair share of their good ship LOLLIPOP.
-
Brad Guth


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Our moon was born when the Earth was hit by a proto planetary body and THAT
might have been the cuase of our tilt, but it's unknown if it was or not.
Plus even without the moon, we would have had mountains and all that we have
today.

Nothing from outside of our system likly didn't do a thing to us or the
other planets.


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"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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The mere dreaded thought of an icy ProtoMoon and of it's lithobreaking
arrival is not a joke.