Got that whatever BC Moon ?

Where's that nifty mascon of a moon first depicted or otherwise
recorded, as of prior to 10,000 BC?

GOT that 10,000 BC or older NOON?

How about forking over anything as of a 5,000 BC moon?

GOT that 10,000 BC MOON GOD/GODDEST depiction?

Where's the replicated hard-science that supposedly has such a horrific
mascon orbiting good old Earth from the very beginning?

Where exactly did those teratonnes worth of salty oceans and other salt
deposits come from, if not having been derived from an icy proto-moon?
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This is a truth or consequences test of reality, as a viable alternative
that we need to learn about before we can skip ourselves off to these
other worlds and moons of damn little if any salt and thus far no
apparent sign of surface water, much less having salty oceans.

Firstly; where's that nifty mascon of a moon first depicted or otherwise
recorded, as of prior to 10,000 BC or that of the last ice age?

Got any terrestrial sign of that 10,000 BC or older Moon?

How about forking over anything the least bit moonish as of 5,000 BC.

Have we got that 10,000 BC or older Moon GOD/GODDESS depiction or
mention?

Where's the replicated hard-science that supposedly has such a horrific
mascon of such a moon orbiting good old Earth from the very beginning?

Where exactly did those teratonnes worth of salty oceans and other salt
deposits come from, if not having been derived from encountering such an
icy (Sedna like) proto-moon?
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This is another one of those new and improved truth or consequence test
of our infomercial skewed reality, as offering a viable alternative
look-see into what we need to learn about our salty moon before we can
skip ourselves off to these other worlds and moons of damn little if any
salt, and thus far no apparent sign of their having hosted any
significant surface water, much less having salty oceans that should
have been teeming with at least the easily shared pamspermia of diatom
life.

Firstly; where's that nifty mascon of a moon first depicted or otherwise
recorded, as of prior to 10,000 BC, or prior to that of the last ice
age?

Have we got any terrestrial record/sign of that 10,000 BC or older Moon?

How about for starters, forking over anything the least bit moonish as
of 5,000 BC.

Have we got that 10,000 BC or older Moon GOD/GODDESS depiction or any
mention?

Where's the replicated hard-science that supposedly has such a horrific
mascon of such a nearby moon orbiting good old Earth from the very
beginning?

Where exactly did those teratonnes worth of salty oceans and many other
salt deposits come from, if not having been derived from encountering
such an icy (Sedna like) proto-moon?

Without a substantial impact, how the heck did Earth accomplish such a
nifty tilt?

Where did the most horrific of surface basin deformations come from, if
not from an icy proto-moon impact?
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Did the sub-topic of Venus kill off "The Ghost In The Machine"?
(apparently so)

Wy has this moon topic recently become taboo (selectively moderated so
that certain contributions can't even be replied to)? Is the moon or
rather that of any sub-topic forbidden archeology, forbidden science?

Where's our Moon as of 10,000 BC

http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/re...=smart&p=1/449

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.o...20ae7eabdaa3b2

The ancient Crystal Skulls and Jadeite Skeleton of the China/Mongolia
region that date as of somewhat recent 3500 ~ 2200 BC, and of many other
complex items dating to 10,500 BC, shows a terrific artistic range and
intellectual scope of their having understood and depicted such items of
importance, along with clearly an understanding as to their meaning
seems rather obvious, proving that such early heathens had this degree
of perfectly relevant artistic expertises, and were otherwise extremely
survival intelligent folks.
http://www.greatdreams.com/himalayan...-skulls-2.html
Yet there's still no similar or previous depictions of a much simpler
object that had bold features and phase by phase looked a little
hocus-pocus different each night, such as that of our nearby moon which
had to have been extremely important to their survival and that of
keeping track of time, seasons and navigation while offering terrific
nighttime illumination (especially way back then when Earth's albedo was
half again if not at times worth twice of what it is today).

So, where the heck was our nearby and therefore unavoidably impressive
mascon of a moon as of during, prior to or even shortly thereafter the
last ice age?

Intelligent humans with terrific artistic skills had obviously existed
prior and during the last ice age, and obviously thereafter as having
demonstrated their survival and reasonably complex creative skills over
and over, yet one of the simplest of an interesting and highly important
object to depict being that of our moon is nowhere to be found until
long after the last ice age. Moon gods weren't even invented until more
recent than 2500 BC, while many other gods of much less importance had
existed long before.

How can such an intelligent species of early humanity, as taken from all
over this world, have lost and/or having entirely disregarded our moon?
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The Moon wasn't there.

It was put there by aliens as an outpost to keep an eye on us.

What the hell is your point anyway?

Do you have an insane theory or are you just insane?

"SmartyPants" wrote in message
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The Moon wasn't there.

It was put there by aliens as an outpost to keep an eye on us.
I think they move over to Venus. Wouldn't you?

What the hell is your point anyway?

Do you have an insane theory or are you just insane?
Likely it's a little of both, and then some.

Our serious mascon worth of a moon has been global warming us to death
ever since it's arrival. At least it's the primary cause, along with
the cultivated bigotry, arrogance and insurmountable greed of humanity
picking up the slack of pillaging and raping mother Earth for all she's
worth, plus there's a little something of perhaps 5% that's represented
by the most recent solar cycle, which obviously comes and goes.

What's the first indication (x,xxx BC) of Earth having that nearby
ET/spook (aka MIB) of a moon that's supposedly keeping an eye on us?
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"Brad Guth" wrote in message
news:aa91b692e61afbe410a57b290ff054ed.49644@mygate .mailgate.org...

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object to depict being that of our moon is nowhere to be found until
long after the last ice age. Moon gods weren't even invented until more
recent than 2500 BC, while many other gods of much less importance had
existed long before.

How can such an intelligent species of early humanity, as taken from all
over this world, have lost and/or having entirely disregarded our moon?
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Brad Guth

The Sumerians (ancient peoples of Mesopotamia/southern Iraq, often regarded
as the seat of civilisation) worshipped the moon god Sin. Their artifacts
date back to over 7000 years ago.

Did that pesky little sub-topic of Venus manage to kill off "The Ghost
In The Machine"? (apparently so)

I don't quite understand as to why this recent moon topic became so gosh
darn taboo/nondisclosure (selectively moderated from within so that
certain contributions can't even be replied to)? Is the moon or rather
that of any sub-topic forbidden archeology, forbidden science and/or
forbidden physics to boot. Are all such forms of ancient history also
representing the forbidden fruit of this GOOGLE/Usenet anti-think-tank
from hell?

Where's our Moon as of 10,000 BC

http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/re...=smart&p=1/449

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.o...20ae7eabdaa3b2

The ancient Crystal Skulls and Jadeite Skeleton of the China/Mongolia
region that have been dated as of the somewhat recent 3500 ~ 2200 BC,
and of many other complex items dating to 10,500 BC, along with terrific
depictions going back to something pre 15,000 BC, shows a terrific
artistic range and intellectual scope of their having understood and
depicted such items of importance, along with clearly an understanding
as to their meaning seems rather obvious, proving that such early
heathens had this degree of perfectly relevant artistic expertises, and
were otherwise extremely survival intelligent folks.
http://www.greatdreams.com/himalayan...-skulls-2.html
Yet there's still no similar or previous depictions of a much simpler
object that had bold features and phase by phase looked a little
hocus-pocus different each night, such as that of our nearby moon which
had to have been extremely important to their survival and that of
keeping track of time, seasons and navigation while offering terrific
nighttime illumination (especially way back then when Earth's albedo was
half again if not at times worth twice of what it is today).

So, where the heck can we suppose our nearby and therefore unavoidably
impressive mascon of a moon was, as of during, prior to or even shortly
thereafter the ongoing thaw from the last ice age?

Intelligent humans with terrific artistic skills and physical talents
had obviously existed prior and during the last ice age, and obviously
thereafter as having demonstrated their survival and reasonably complex
creative skills over and over, yet one of the simplest of an unavoidably
interesting and highly important object to depict being that of our moon
is nowhere to be found until long after the last ice age. Moon gods
weren't even invented until more recent than 2500 BC, while many other
gods of much less importance had existed long before.

How can such an intelligent species of our survival savvy early humanity
(as taken from examples all over this world) have lost track of and/or
having entirely disregarded our moon?

Or rather, where's all of that supposedly irrefutable objective worth of
hard-scientific replicated matter of facts, proving that we even had
that pesky moon as of during or prior to our last ice age, and not just
having a solar tidal influence to deal with.
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A clear set of depictions including those of our moon as of 5300 BP or
3300 BC seems entirely worthy of being as good of hard-science that's
also about as replicated as it needs to get. Now, how about a little
something on behalf of the other 7,000 years?

"odubhain" wrote in message
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The oldest mapping of the Moon I've ever seen was done about 5300BP in
Knowth, Ireland. It's located in an ancient ritual center devoted to
observing and celebrating the Sun, Moon and stars. It also happens to
be on property where my ancestors once lived:
http://publish.uwo.ca/~pjstooke/knowth.htm
http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancie...narknowth.html
There's also calendrical sticks and other devices indicating lunar
cycles that are much older (but many of these have already been
presented in this thread).

Searles O'Dubhain

That's good news, bringing us roughly a third of the way towards the
10,500 BC mark.

Interesting to note, that depicted wavy line could represent those new
and improved tides.

Also interesting to note are of those French cave heathens as having
been painting up such a storm as of 15,000 BC without their ever once
suggesting the likeness of any moon. No wonder them French are
supposedly as dumbfounded as they are, especially if there actually was
that big old moon to deal with.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascaux
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/arcnat/lascaux/en/
http://edsitement.neh.gov/view_lesson_plan.asp?id=362
"15000 BC The cave art of Paleolithic man of Lascaux, France dates to
this time. It contains some 600 paintings, 1500 engravings, and
innumerable ..." However, entirely w/o once offering any positive
suggestion of their environment having any moon.

Savvy humans have been around throughout many ice-ages, whereas
excluding Ed Conrad's 280 million year old human remains, at least we're
talking 300+ thousands of years, yet only those of the most recent times
long after the last ice age had become intelligent enough to having
bothered to take any notice of our moon, of the unavoidable influence
upon their environment and mostly positive impact upon their ultimate
survival, whereas moonshine would have given the rather significant
advantage to those smart enough to venture outside on such vibrantly
illuminated and somewhat crisp and clear nighttimes where hunting and
gathering would have been much safer, that is if you didn't want to get
spotted by the vast majority of wild things that were either asleep or
nearly blind by such limited illumination that we humans should have
seen perfectly fine and dandy by way of the frosty nighttime light of
such a nearby moon.
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Brad, Your agrammatical turn of phrase makes it difficult to understand your
queries and assertions. You refer to a horrible orbiting mascon, presumably
meaning our moon. A mascon is a region of atypically dense material, often
created when a bolide of high momentum impacts the ground. The Wilkes Land
crater buried under the Antarctic ice sheet is an impressive candidate for
such a feature (it was discovered through small local gravity variations
detected by satellites). The crater rims on the moon are also typical
mascons formed by ancient impacts in a similar way. The moon itself can
hardly be described as a mascon since the term refers to an unusually dense
local region. As for its being 'horrible', the earth's tidal flows (and
resultant climate) are maintained by the moon and if it were to suddenly
disappear we would be reduced to chaos and extinction.

There have been two conflicting theories regarding the moon's origins: one
is that it was once a part of the early earth, separated by some gargantuan
collision aeons ago, the other that it coalesced from orbiting debris much
as the other moons and planets probably did. Either way, we are talking
about events which took place many millions of years ago, not 10,000 years.
Cave drawings from the stone age and Sumerian peoples clearly depict the
moon and its phases to 5000BC and earlier, but there are limited surviving
instances of such art prior to the ice age, for obvious geological reasons.

What possible evidence is there to suggest that our moon is a recent
visitor, or that there may be/could have been another moon, placed nearby by
intelligences for unknown reasons? It all sounds like unscientific
sensationalism without any basis. Kindly explain yourself in plain English
and try to add some credulity to your ideas, or stop posting nonsense and
stick to reading science fiction.