von Braun photo and rocket models

In this famous photo of WvB,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W..._von_Braun.jpg

On the left are an Atlas and a Saturn I. On the right is a Saturn V.
Is the one in the middle a Saturn 1B and the fourth one a Saturn II?
It looks like a Saturn I first stage with an SIV-B second stage,
perhaps shortened.


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They are, left to right:

- Atlas-Centaur (I think)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during first few flights)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during later flights)
- Saturn 1B
- Saturn 5

Ed Hengeveld


Jud McCranie schreef:

In this famous photo of WvB,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W..._von_Braun.jpg

On the left are an Atlas and a Saturn I. On the right is a Saturn V.
Is the one in the middle a Saturn 1B and the fourth one a Saturn II?
It looks like a Saturn I first stage with an SIV-B second stage,
perhaps shortened.


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On 10 Aug 2006 22:31:51 -0700, "
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They are, left to right:

- Atlas-Centaur (I think)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during first few flights)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during later flights)
- Saturn 1B
- Saturn 5

Thanks, I can usually count on someone here having the answer.
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wrote:
They are, left to right:

- Atlas-Centaur (I think)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during first few flights)

The Saturn 1 flown on SA-1, SA-2 and SA-3 had a S-I block I first stage
a dummy S-IV second stage and a dummy S-V (Centaur?) third stage topped
by a Jupiter? nosecone. The SA-4 was similar, except the dummy S-IV
stage had dummy separation rockets attached to test aerodynamics.

- Saturn 1 (configuration during later flights)

The Saturn 1 flown on SA-6, SA-7, SA-9, SA-8 (they were flown out of
order) and SA-10
consisted of a S-I block II first stage (notice the fins), a live S-IV
second stage, and an adapter/instrument unit between the S-IV and the
block I Apollo CSM. SA-8, SA-9 and SA-10 also launched the Pegasus
micrometeroid detection satellite. It stayed attached to the S-IV
stage. Its wing like micrometeroid detectors were folded up inside the
hollowed out Apollo service module that was ejected after orbit was
achieved.

SA-5 consisted of a S-I block II first stage and a live S-IV second
stage. No Apollo spacecraft was flown, just a nosecone filled with
ballast.


Rusty

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They are, left to right:

- Atlas-Centaur (I think)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during first few flights)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during later flights)

Was this version soemtimes referred to as a Saturn 1A -- in some docuemnts??


- Saturn 1B
- Saturn 5

g. beat wrote:
wrote in message
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They are, left to right:

- Atlas-Centaur (I think)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during first few flights)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during later flights)

Was this version soemtimes referred to as a Saturn 1A -- in some docuemnts??

The two versions shown are the Saturn I (or C-1) Block I with
dummy S-IV second stage and Saturn I Block II with live S-IV
second stage. There were plans for "Apollo A" flights using
Saturn I Block II launchers. These missions would have used
the "SA/AS-1XX" identifiers. The Saturn IB missions ended
up using the "SA/AS-2XX" identifiers.

"http://www.astronautix.com/craft/apolloa.htm"

- Ed Kyle

"Ed Kyle" wrote in message
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They are, left to right:

- Atlas-Centaur (I think)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during first few flights)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during later flights)

Was this version sometimes referred to as a Saturn 1A -- in some
docuemnts??

The two versions shown are the Saturn I (or C-1) Block I with
dummy S-IV second stage and Saturn I Block II with live S-IV
second stage. There were plans for "Apollo A" flights using
Saturn I Block II launchers. These missions would have used
the "SA/AS-1XX" identifiers. The Saturn IB missions ended
up using the "SA/AS-2XX" identifiers.

"http://www.astronautix.com/craft/apolloa.htm"

- Ed Kyle


Thanks Ed -- that was the "A" reference ("Apollo A" flights using Saturn I
Block II launchers. These missions would have used the "SA/AS-1XX"
identifier) -- that I was remembering.

g. beat

wrote:
They are, left to right:

- Atlas-Centaur (I think)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during first few flights)
- Saturn 1 (configuration during later flights)
- Saturn 1B
- Saturn 5

Ed Hengeveld


Jud McCranie schreef:

In this famous photo of WvB,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W..._von_Braun.jpg

On the left are an Atlas and a Saturn I. On the right is a Saturn V.
Is the one in the middle a Saturn 1B and the fourth one a Saturn II?
It looks like a Saturn I first stage with an SIV-B second stage,
perhaps shortened.


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Good morning. I agree . . . it does look like an Atlas-Centaur.

Blue skies

John

As an aside, several photos taken of von Braun in his (this) office
reveal that the scale of the Sat V models was so large a large square
hole was cut in the ceiling( running the length of the model display)
to accomodate it.........Doc
Jud McCranie wrote:
In this famous photo of WvB,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W..._von_Braun.jpg

On the left are an Atlas and a Saturn I. On the right is a Saturn V.
Is the one in the middle a Saturn 1B and the fourth one a Saturn II?
It looks like a Saturn I first stage with an SIV-B second stage,
perhaps shortened.


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"Jud McCranie" wrote in message
...
In this famous photo of WvB,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W..._von_Braun.jpg

On the left are an Atlas and a Saturn I. On the right is a Saturn V.
Is the one in the middle a Saturn 1B and the fourth one a Saturn II?
It looks like a Saturn I first stage with an SIV-B second stage,
perhaps shortened.


Where is the V-2 model at?