Request for Apollo 10 document location

Rusty,

As god of all NASA PDFs, do you happen to know of any that detail what
kind of simulations were run for Apollo 10? Specifically, were there
any contingencies for what to do if the ascent stage of the LM failed
to achieve lunar orbital velocity? Did the backup crew ever try to run
a simulation where that happened?

Of course, I'd welcome any data (and pointers) from people who are
*not* Rusty, too, and thank you deeply in advance.

Gave you tried the docs at

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...lsj/frame.html

???

KMM

addams013 wrote:
Rusty,

As god of all NASA PDFs, do you happen to know of any that detail what
kind of simulations were run for Apollo 10? Specifically, were there
any contingencies for what to do if the ascent stage of the LM failed
to achieve lunar orbital velocity? Did the backup crew ever try to run
a simulation where that happened?

Of course, I'd welcome any data (and pointers) from people who are
*not* Rusty, too, and thank you deeply in advance.

skrev:

Gave you tried the docs at

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...lsj/frame.html

???


Sorry, he said Apollo 10, but it didn't land.

So it is not on the page.

Regards

Carsten Nielsen
Denmark

Carsten Nielsen skrev:

A bit too fast:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...ndingSite2.jpg

Apollo Landing Site 2: Flown Apollo 10 Map (140k )

This flown map shows the proposed landing ellipse and has three
handdrawn, rough ovals in the southwestern quadrant, possibly areas
examined by the Apollo 10 crew in one or more passes over the site.
Ulli Lotzmann provides a version with the actual Apollo 11 landing site
marked ( 90k ).

Regards

Carsten Nielsen
Denmark

The Press Kits, Mission Reports and other stuff for non-landing
missions are there. Great resource...

KMM

Carsten Nielsen wrote:
skrev:

Gave you tried the docs at

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...lsj/frame.html

???


Sorry, he said Apollo 10, but it didn't land.

So it is not on the page.

Regards

Carsten Nielsen
Denmark

wrote:
The Press Kits, Mission Reports and other stuff for non-landing
missions are there. Great resource...

Yeah. I, too, had made the mistake of ignoring it because it only
appeared to address Apollos 11 through 17. Thanks for pointing me
back.

addams013 wrote:
Rusty,

As god of all NASA PDFs, do you happen to know of any that detail what
kind of simulations were run for Apollo 10? Specifically, were there
any contingencies for what to do if the ascent stage of the LM failed
to achieve lunar orbital velocity? Did the backup crew ever try to run
a simulation where that happened?

Of course, I'd welcome any data (and pointers) from people who are
*not* Rusty, too, and thank you deeply in advance.


Below are the only specific Apollo 10 documents that are available for
download on the NASA NTRS server:


Analysis of Apollo 10 photography and visual observations

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-SP-232 , 19710101; JAN 1, 1971
Lunar geology, crater, and volcanic feature analysis from Apollo 10
visual observations and photointerpretations
Accession ID: 71N27871
Document ID: 19710018395

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1971018395.pdf

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Apollo 10 photography index (70-mm and 16-mm frame index)

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-110544; NAS 1.15:110544; NSSDC-69-14 , 19691001; Oct 1, 1969
This index contains supporting information about each photograph taken
during
the Apollo 10 mission. Included are high altitude views of the earth
and moon
taken during the translunar coast, two near vertical passes over
landing site 2
and on the central farside of the moon, photographs taken from the
lunar module
(LM) during the descent approach to landing site 2, oblique sequence of
landing
sites 1 and 2, a near vertical pass from site 1 through site 2, high
altitude
photographs of the lunar surface, obliques into Mare Tranquillitatis,
and photographs
of intravehicular activity (IVA), docking, and reentry.

Accession ID: 95N70930
Document ID: 19950002810

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1995102810.pdf

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Apollo 10 LM-4, descent propulsion system final flight evaluation
Seto, R. K. M.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-CR-101869; TRW-11176-H314-R0-001 , 19690808; Aug 8, 1969
Apollo 10 descent propulsion system performance

Accession ID: 69N35704
Document ID: 19690026326

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1969026326.pdf

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Apollo 10 mission - Final flight evaluation report

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-64315; D2-117017-7 , 19690801; Aug 1, 1969
Postflight analysis of Apollo 10 mission

Accession ID: 70N34252
Document ID: 19700024936

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1970024936.pdf

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Saturn S-4B-505N stage flight evaluation report

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-CR-110072; MDC-G0008; MSFC-DRL-021 , 19690801; Aug 1, 1969
Postflight analysis of prelaunch countdown, powered flight, and orbital
phases
of S-4B-505N stage of Apollo 10 launch vehicle

Accession ID: 70N35738
Document ID: 19700026422

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1970026422.pdf

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Rusty

addams013 wrote:
Rusty,

As god of all NASA PDFs, do you happen to know of any that detail what
kind of simulations were run for Apollo 10? Specifically, were there
any contingencies for what to do if the ascent stage of the LM failed
to achieve lunar orbital velocity? Did the backup crew ever try to run
a simulation where that happened?

Of course, I'd welcome any data (and pointers) from people who are
*not* Rusty, too, and thank you deeply in advance.


Here are some additional Apollo 10 PDF's. The first two concern
pre-flight contingency planning.




Operational LM abort and rescue plan for Apollo 10 (mission F).
Supplement to volume 1 -
non-time-critical procedures, specific case data

Alexander, J. D.; Bell, J. A.; Dupont, A. L.; Srurlin, H. O.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69697; MSC-IN-69-FM-110-SUPPL , 19690424; Apr 24, 1969

Accession ID: 74N70512
Document ID: 19740072573


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1974072573.pdf

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Launch window effects on the Apollo 10 (mission F) operational abort
plans

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69412; MSC-IN-69-FM-90 , 19690514; May 14, 1969

Accession ID: 74N70638
Document ID: 19740072699

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1974072699.pdf

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Apollo 10 mission report

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-74205; MSC-00126 , 19690801; Aug 1, 1969

Accession ID: 76N78055
Document ID: 19760073014


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1976073014.pdf


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Apollo 10 mission report. Supplement 2: Guidance, navigation, and
control systems
performance analysis

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69549; TRW-11176-H386-R0-00-SPPL-2; MSC-00126-SUPPL-2 ,
19691101; Nov 1, 1969

Accession ID: 73N73554
Document ID: 19730064312

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1973064312.pdf


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Apollo 10 mission report. Supplement 6: Ascent propulsion system final
flight evaluation
Griffin, W. G.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69554; TRW-11176-H347-R0-00; MSC-00126-SUPPL-6 , 19700101;
Jan 1, 1970

Accession ID: 73N73555
Document ID: 19730064313

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1973064313.pdf


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Apollo 10 mission report. Supplement 7: Descent propulsion system
Seto, R. K. M.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69548; MSC-00126-SUPPL-7 , 19691201; Dec 1, 1969

Accession ID: 73N73406
Document ID: 1973006416

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1973064164.pdf

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Apollo 10 mission report. Supplement 10: Entry postflight analysis
Szelc, D.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69555; MSC-00126-SUPPL-10 , 19691201; Dec 1, 1969

Accession ID: 73N73407
Document ID: 19730064165

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1973064165.pdf


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Apollo 10 mission report. Supplement 11: Communication system
performance

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69553; MSC-00126-SUPPL-11 , 19691201; Dec 1, 1969

Accession ID: 73N73408
Document ID: 19730064166

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1973064166.pdf


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Apollo 10 television
Raleigh, J. T.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-CR-103910 , 19690407; Apr 7, 1969

Accession ID: 79N72658
Document ID: 19790073150

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1979073150.pdf

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RTCC requirements for Apollo 10 (mission F) preflight information
Duncan, R. D.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69629; MSC-IN-69-FM-80 , 19690407; Apr 7, 1969

Accession ID: 74N70731
Document ID: 19740072792


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1974072792.pdf


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Anticipated performance of the Apollo 10 color television system
Selden, R. L.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-CR-106441 , 19690421; Apr 21, 1969

Accession ID: 79N72666
Document ID: 19790073158

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1979073158.pdf


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Project Apollo: Apollo 10 spacecraft dispersion analysis. Volume 4:
Rendezvous dispersion analysis

Detchmendy, D. M.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-69376; MSC-IN-69-FM-139-VOL-4 , 19690514; May 14, 1969

Accession ID: 74N70621
Document ID: 19740072682


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1974072682.pdf


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Apollo 10 photo debriefing - Case 340
El-Baz, F.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-CR-106888; B69-06051 , 19690612; Jun 12, 1969

Accession ID: 79N72840
Document ID: 19790073332

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1979073332.pdf


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Spectrum analyses of Apollo 10 S-4B first and second burn
Ackerman, A. T.; Ferrara, L. A., Jr.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-CR-106545; B69-07025 , 19690709; Jul 9, 1969

Accession ID: 79N72537
Document ID: 19790073029

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1979073029.pdf

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An analysis of Apollo 10 tracking data utilizing the Polar version of
the osculating
lunar elements program
Bullock, M. V.; Ferrari, A. J.
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-CR-112663; TM-69-2014-9 , 19690930; Sep 30, 1969

Accession ID: 79N72263
Document ID: 19790072755


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1979072755.pdf


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Analysis of Apollo 10 photography and visual observations

NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-SP-232 , 19710101; JAN 1, 1971
Lunar geology, crater, and volcanic feature analysis from Apollo 10
visual observations
and photointerpretations

Accession ID: 71N27871
Document ID: 19710018395

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1971018395.pdf


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Rusty

There was no need of any full scale lunar orbit that would have been
unavoidably and otherwise extremely lethal.

At most we're talking about a somewhat testy though short stint within
LL-1, and even that much wasn't necessarily the full package or even on
behalf of getting those Apollo missions fully into the sweet-spot or
nullification zone. Therefore the required energy for retrothrust
wasn't utilized for accomplishing the moon orbit and of their
subsequently breaking free of the moon's gravity. Only smaller robotic
probes orbited that physically dark and nasty moon of ours.

For accomplishing that much, they had loads of fuel to burn. Robotics
did however orbit the moon, and having nicely photographed that
physically dark orb, having then processed and transferring each of
those images while on the fly. Therefore, we have no such actual film
as ever having been returned to Earth for processing.

The nearly 30% inert GLOW and the nearly as good as 60:1 ratio of
rocket per payload make it perfectly clear, at least by the numbers and
regular laws of physics and rocket-science, that putting nearly 50t
into lunar orbit never happened.

It seems that I've been requested by the almighty GOOGLE hosted Usenet
authority to "**** off".

Well folks, "**** off" is my point exactly, that nobody here within
this all-knowing "**** off" Usenet from hell cares about sharing the
truth, least not about humanity, history or about anything that
actually matters for the quality of life or even on behalf of sharing
the few remaining energy and food resources with the likes of Muslims
or any other non-Jewish folks, much less on behalf of mother Earth
that's currently going postal.

Obviously you folks either don't want to share and share alike, or else
you wouldn't so much as dare honestly discuss those NASA/Apollo A-11,
A-14 or A-16 missions as having that absolutely terrific and otherwise
unavoidable look-see at Venus. Why am I and many other honest folks
not the least bit surprised.

In that case of "**** off", here's a my latest suggestion to each of
those naysayers that typically suck and blow (such as most of these
Third Reich collaborating contributors to this topic, as in much like
yourself):
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/SimplyMagic/TightFit.jpg
"Chris Krolczyk, former Smithsonian anthropologist (and an
evolutionist, obviously), does his thing outside National
Museum of Natural History. Amazingly, Krolczyk reported
meeting Tony Blair, President Bush and Rush Limbaugh inside
the tunnel. Krolczyk has since left the Smithsonian to join
Monty Pyton's Flying Circus."

The rest of Ed Conrad's "RARE PHOTO OF FIRST MAN IN THE MOON -- FOX
NEWS EXCLUSIVE" topic has also been sharing a bit of the actual truth
and nothing but the truth.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...86a2ae5fb3c491
or as otherwise offered by this tpoic: "EXCLUSIVE PHOTO -- FIRST MAN IN
THE MOON"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...326bc56dc99e86

Besides Ed Conrad's honest contributions to science and the best
available terrestrial truth about the extra age of humanity that's as
old if not older than coal; what do you folks have to say on behalf of
other intelligent life, as having been existing/coexisting on Venus.

What's technically and otherwise perhaps evolutionary as to being
within the realm of what's doable about Venus?

What's all that wrong about there being a massive fluid arch on such a
geothermally active Venus?

What's so impossible or unlikely about other life existing/coexisting
on Venus?

What doesn't a newish planet like Venus have going for itself?
-
Brad Guth

Rusty wrote:
Here are some additional Apollo 10 PDF's. The first two concern
pre-flight contingency planning.
snip

Many, many thanks, Rusty! I'm sure this will help immeasurably.