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![]() On Jun 27, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote: All the advanced signals from the phase mismatch pi - x signal nonlocality end at the initial singularity lowering its entropy setting up the irreversible Arrow of Time solving Penrose's problem with inflation in the Road to Reality. On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote: "Signal locality" in JC's TI seems to correspond to perfect destructive interference of the advanced wave to the past from the emitter with the advanced echo wave from the absorber. Anything that can disrupt that pi phase shift will result in signal nonlocality violating the no-cloning theorem. So how does Cramer arrive at that pi phase shift? Is that an independent axiom of TI like Euclid's 5th? On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote: The standard hand-waving argument is that local interference fringes will never be seen at either end no matter how the transmitter is set in the future either at "0" or "1". One can still see nonlocal fringes in the hindsight correlations after-the-fact, i.e. no effective practical "time travel to past" signal nonlocality. The basic idea here is that the two entangled photons mutually effectively "which-way" measure each other. But is this really correct in all possible total experimental arrangements? One must show this formally and at least quasi-rigorously of course. The typical argument is to look at say the receiver photon R that can take paths A or B. If that photon was not entangled the state at the detector would be |RA + U(A-B)|RB Where U(A-B) is the unitary operator representing the path difference for that one photon R. The FRINGES happen when at position x on the screen for photon R x|RA + x|U(A-B)|RB And the Born probability density fringe terms include RA|xx|U(A-B)|RB + cc However, in the case of the entangled photons R and T where T has a choice of slits C & D landing at x', the usual argument is that the initial local momentum conservation constrains the pair state to be correlated into something like x|RAx'|TC + x|U(A-B)|RBx'|U(C-D)|TD The argument is then that we must integrate over all future x' to know what will be seen at a single x in the past. It is then argued that the dx' integral of TC|x'x'|U(C-D)|TD vanishes and since it is a coefficient of RA|xx|U(A-B)|RB there are no local fringes in the past. You can switch roles and also get no local fringes in the future no matter what you do. That is, the orthodox argument is that each photon will quasi-measure the other photon and the time sequence of the detections will not matter. That is, the two photons quasi-measure each other. I use "quasi-measure" here because of Marlan Scully's "quantum eraser" effect. The basic "reason" for this is that unitary operators U preserve inner "bra-ket" products, so that if the dx' integral TC|TD = 0 initially they will remain so. However, this argument is not well posed because the two paths for photon T to land at x' will generally take different amounts of time. All we know is that U(t)*U(t) = 1, but we do not know that U(t')*U(t) = 1 when t =/= t'. On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote: Is anyone able to refute John Cramer's gedankenexperiment for backwards-through-time reverse causation in which the future creates the past? I have not had time enough yet to think hard enough about Cramer's particular proposal in this attachment from the AAAS USD meeting last week. Reverse Causation.pdf If Cramer is right here then an important part of Lenny Susskind's (and recently Stephen Hawking's) theory of information loss down black holes is shot down because then we can, in principle, see beyond the horizons to the other worlds of the multiverse. The Cosmic Landscape is then testable. George Chapline's theory is also shot down if this works because he rejects closed timelike curve effects in his "dark star". The signal nonlocality, hitherto thought to violate orthodox quantum theory, is what explains remote viewing and possibly other paranormal phenomena. See Martin Gardner's "Magic and Paraphysics" for the history of this idea. |
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