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Old May 19th 06, 11:40 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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OK we know Einstien's GR is a four-dimensional theory. Time could not be
separated from space. They interact with one another. This I always
found interesting about this guy Kalusa he gave this to us. "What if"
you formulated GR in five dimensions? So he did the math and here is
what he gave us. When an extra dimension was added two sets of
equations appeared One set was Einstien's equation for gravity. The
other set was Maxwell's equation for elecromagnetism. Hmmmm
No wonder Einstien spent his last 30 years in the microscopic realm
looking for gravity's source Kaluza was very smart. Kind of makes
you think attraction of magnetisim and gravity's attraction might be two
sides to the same coin Go figure TreBert

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OK we know Einstien's GR is a four-dimensional theory. Time could not be
separated from space. They interact with one another. This I always
found interesting about this guy Kalusa he gave this to us. "What if"
you formulated GR in five dimensions? So he did the math and here is
what he gave us. When an extra dimension was added two sets of
equations appeared One set was Einstien's equation for gravity. The
other set was Maxwell's equation for elecromagnetism. Hmmmm
No wonder Einstien spent his last 30 years in the microscopic realm
looking for gravity's source Kaluza was very smart. Kind of makes
you think attraction of magnetisim and gravity's attraction might be two
sides to the same coin Go figure TreBert

Mathematicians have proven that there are 11 dimensions instead of the 10
dimension space previously used by Theoretical Physists. Why are we going
back to 5?


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Old May 20th 06, 06:48 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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nightbat wrote

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

OK we know Einstien's GR is a four-dimensional theory. Time could not be
separated from space. They interact with one another. This I always
found interesting about this guy Kalusa he gave this to us. "What if"
you formulated GR in five dimensions? So he did the math and here is
what he gave us. When an extra dimension was added two sets of
equations appeared One set was Einstien's equation for gravity. The
other set was Maxwell's equation for elecromagnetism. Hmmmm
No wonder Einstien spent his last 30 years in the microscopic realm
looking for gravity's source Kaluza was very smart. Kind of makes
you think attraction of magnetisim and gravity's attraction might be two
sides to the same coin Go figure TreBert


nightbat

The field is reciprocal onto itself.

continue pondering,
the nightbat
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Old May 20th 06, 12:12 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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nightbat I can't find my post "Universe,and the onion" Could I
relate the rings of an onion having each ring a dimension. Is the
center of an onion a "point"? Is the center of a black hole a "point"?
Is the center of the universe a "point"? Does a point have more than
one dimension? How does the shape of a string create so many more
dimensions in the submicroscopic realm? Was the universe created out of
the realm of one dimension? Tricky stuff Go figure
TreBert

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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
nightbat I can't find my post "Universe,and the onion" Could I
relate the rings of an onion having each ring a dimension. Is the
center of an onion a "point"? Is the center of a black hole a "point"?
Is the center of the universe a "point"? Does a point have more than
one dimension?



A point has no dimension. It is a concept from geometry:

"A point is that which has no part." - Euclid

"The description of a point, "that which has no part," indicates that
Euclid will be treating a point as having no width, length, or breadth,
but as an indivisible location."

http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/jav...okI/defI1.html


How does the shape of a string create so many more
dimensions in the submicroscopic realm? Was the universe created out of
the realm of one dimension? Tricky stuff Go figure
TreBert



Double-A

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Old May 20th 06, 06:21 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Double-A In the concept of Riemann's geometry a point is concept of
abstract math. Going with the concept how string theory is on our
traditional notion is they"do not exists" Einstien loved Riemann's
geometry,and that is how he came up with GR. There are no point
particles. Rather,they are tiny "one-dimensional filaments,and are
infinitely thin. Double-A when stuff gets down to Planck lengths,we see
them as "points"(to tiny for the Macro realm) I'm thinking QM,and your
thinking relativity. Strange I read some cosmetologists think of
galaxies as points. Reason is their size relative to the universe. Go
figure TreBert

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Old May 21st 06, 05:36 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Double-A" ha scritto nel messaggio
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A point has no dimension. It is a concept from geometry:

"A point is that which has no part." - Euclid

"The description of a point, "that which has no part," indicates that
Euclid will be treating a point as having no width, length, or breadth,
but as an indivisible location."


Isn't a point just a 3D qbit pixel in the Big Simulation?

Luigi Caselli


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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" ha scritto nel messaggio
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OK we know Einstien's GR is a four-dimensional theory. Time could not be
separated from space. They interact with one another. This I always
found interesting about this guy Kalusa he gave this to us. "What if"
you formulated GR in five dimensions? So he did the math and here is
what he gave us. When an extra dimension was added two sets of
equations appeared One set was Einstien's equation for gravity. The
other set was Maxwell's equation for elecromagnetism. Hmmmm
No wonder Einstien spent his last 30 years in the microscopic realm
looking for gravity's source Kaluza was very smart. Kind of makes
you think attraction of magnetisim and gravity's attraction might be two
sides to the same coin Go figure TreBert


I prefer the 6-8-12 dimensions of Heim space
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heim_theory and read carefully the mass
formulae paragraph.

This is the only TOE theory that calculates correctly the particles mass in
a pure theoretical way.
Maybe Heim was not so wrong...

Luigi Caselli


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Old May 25th 06, 12:12 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Luigi Caselli" wrote...
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" ha scritto nel messaggio
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OK we know Einstien's GR is a four-dimensional theory. Time could not be
separated from space. They interact with one another. This I always
found interesting about this guy Kalusa he gave this to us. "What if"
you formulated GR in five dimensions? So he did the math and here is
what he gave us. When an extra dimension was added two sets of
equations appeared One set was Einstien's equation for gravity. The
other set was Maxwell's equation for elecromagnetism. Hmmmm
No wonder Einstien spent his last 30 years in the microscopic realm
looking for gravity's source Kaluza was very smart. Kind of makes
you think attraction of magnetisim and gravity's attraction might be two
sides to the same coin Go figure TreBert


I prefer the 6-8-12 dimensions of Heim space
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heim_theory and read carefully the mass
formulae paragraph.

This is the only TOE theory that calculates correctly the particles mass

in
a pure theoretical way.
Maybe Heim was not so wrong...

Luigi Caselli


Just from what i've read, it appears that Heim was getting very
close, but his students have embarked off the path. They most
likely find themselves "competing" with the LQG people. It
seems to me that finding compatibilities between Heim theory
and quantum gravity is one definite way to proceed!

--
TIME!... the fourth dimension of space!

Indelibly yours,
Paine http://www.savethechildren.org/
http://www.painellsworth.net


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Old May 25th 06, 08:17 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Luigi thanks for showing us the "Heim's site" Uniting the
forces gives us quantum gravity Only quantum gravity which emerges
out of the "second string revolution spacetime fits" Reality is it can
bring the understanding of TOE into a single overreaching framework.
Humankind when it has a working TOE will have included into it our
parrel universe. I see our two universes like a two holed donut(torus)
It all fits,and will post more on this 6/ 5/06 TreBert

 




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