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The technology described in this post has not been tested, but
it looks trivial when compared to rocket launchers, and it may reduce the cost of space access to a few dollars per kilogram! The technology is based on GPS, a reusable sounding rocket, cheap terrestrial bolo, cheap lunar rotovator, cheap cargo sacks, and a small Zylon sling. The bolo and the rotovator are useful terms defined by Robert Forward. They are described he http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI122.HTM (Robert P. Hoyt calls lunar rotovator "lunavator.") The rotovator hurls the sacks filled with regolith (Moon dust) towards the Earth. It is mounted on a rotating arm which is attached to a large, rotating, toroidal greenhouse. The arm rotates independently of the greenhouse, so it can easily change the angular velocity of the rotovator. The maximum length of the rotovator is about 200 km. When a winch reels its cargo in, the cargo moves faster to conserve its angular momentum. This fact makes it possible to increase the orbital energy of the rotovator and the greenhouse without the need for any external thrust. It is as simple as capturing the cargo, reeling it in, and releasing it. The orbital velocity of the rotovator is only 1.6 km/s, much less than the Moon's escape velocity (2.4 km/s). When the cargo is released from the rotovator, its velocity relative to the Moon is 3.2 km/s. It is gradually slowed down by the lunar gravity to 0.8 km/s (3.2 km/s - 2.4 km/s = 0.8 km/s). Gravitational pull of the Earth accelerates the cargo by 11.2 km/s, which is the Earth's escape velocity. When the cargo is captured by the terrestrial bolo, its velocity relative to the bolo is 4.3 km/s. (The cargo gains 3.5 km/s, which is the difference between the Earth's escape velocity, and the orbital velocity of the bolo, which is 7.7 km/s). The bolo is larger than the rotovator, but it has the same design, and is mounted on a rotating arm, which is attached to a large, rotating, toroidal greenhouse. The bolo reverses velocity of the cargo and drops it on the Earth. This maneuver increases the orbital energy of the bolo and the orbital energy of the greenhouse which is attached to the bolo. When the cargo is released from the bolo, its velocity relative to the Earth is only 3.4 km/s. Before the cargo enters the atmosphere, it is captured at the altitude of 100 km by a sling attached to a payload which was launched from the Earth a few minutes earlier. The payload has the same mass as the cargo. Its velocity relative to the Earth is only 2.5 km/s. The sling is made of Zylon, makes up 20% of the payload's mass, and is strong enough to reverse relative velocity of the cargo and the payload. When the cargo and the payload separate, cargo velocity relative to the Earth is reduced to 1.6 km/s, and payload velocity relative to the Earth is increased to 4.3 km/s. Finally, the payload is captured by the bolo. If the payload is going to be used in the greenhouse orbiting the Earth, the bolo's winch reels it in. If it is going to be used in the greenhouse orbiting the Moon, The bolo reverses payload's velocity and hurls it toward the rotovator, which captures it. The rotovator and the bolo do not have to be made of unobtanium, buckytubes, or even Zylon. Carbon fibers and S-glass fibers are strong enough, and they are immune to the radiation and temperature extremes of the outer space. Perhaps the most practical material for the rotovator and the bolo is a composite made of carbon fibers and S-glass fibers fused together under high pressure and high temperature. More info about slings: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1SL.HTM It is easy to design a reusable sounding rocket which lifts the payload to the altitude of 100 km and accelerates it to the velocity of 2.5 km/s. (When the payload separates from the rocket, its total energy is equivalent to the kinetic energy of only 3 km/s.) Modern GPS technology guarantees high precision of the maneuvers: http://gipsy.jpl.nasa.gov/igdg/syste....html#accuracy |
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I left out many important details:
If there is only one bolo, payload trajectory is tilted upwards, and cargo trajectory is tilted downwards after separation. Cargo velocity relative to the Earth is reduced to more than 1.6 km/s, and payload velocity relative to the Earth is increased to less than 4.3 km/s. If there are several bolos, the sounding rocket does not accelerate the payload, but merely lifts it to the altitude of 100 km. The sling captures and releases several small cargoes, so its mass is smaller. My favorite propellant for the sounding rocket is hydrogen peroxide monopropellant because it is safe and clean. |
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I have just improved design of the bolo and the sling.
Here is complete, revised text: This system of Earth-to-orbit transportation is called "lunavator bolo exchange." It is trivial when compared to rocket launchers, and it may reduce the cost of space access to a few dollars per kilogram! The system is based on GPS, a reusable sounding rocket, terrestrial bolo, lunar rotovator, cargo sacks, and a small Zylon sling. The lunar rotovator is called lunavator. It hurls sacks filled with regolith (Moon dust) toward the Earth. The lunavator is mounted on a rotating arm which is attached to a large, rotating, toroidal greenhouse. The arm rotates independently of the greenhouse, so it can easily change the angular velocity of the lunavator. The maximum length of the lunavator is about 200 km. When a winch reels its cargo in, the cargo moves faster to conserve its angular momentum. This fact makes it possible to increase the orbital energy of the lunavator and the greenhouse without the need for any external thrust. It is as simple as picking the cargo from the Moon, reeling it in, and tossing it backward. The orbital velocity of the lunavator is only 1.6 km/s, much less than the Moon's escape velocity (2.4 km/s). When the cargo is released from the lunavator, its velocity relative to the Moon is 3.2 km/s. It is gradually slowed down by the lunar gravity to 0.8 km/s (3.2 km/s - 2.4 km/s = 0.8 km/s). Gravitational pull of the Earth accelerates the cargo by 11.2 km/s, which is the Earth's escape velocity. An ion thruster guides the cargo toward the terrestrial bolo. When the cargo is captured by the terrestrial bolo, its velocity relative to the bolo is 4.3 km/s. (The cargo gains 3.5 km/s, which is the difference between the Earth's escape velocity, and the orbital velocity of the bolo, which is 7.7 km/s). The bolo is larger than the lunavator, but it has the same design, and is mounted on a rotating arm, which is attached to a large, rotating, toroidal greenhouse. The bolo captures the cargo and reels it in. Human crew divides the cargo, which is called lunar cargo into 4 identical cargoes, which are called terrestrial cargoes. The terrestrial cargoes and a sling are secured to the bolo. The sling is placed at the outer tip of the bolo, while the terrestrial cargoes are evenly spaced along the bolo. When the bolo is accelerated to its maximum angular velocity, the sling and the terrestrial cargoes are released almost simultaneously. The bolo reverses velocity of the cargoes and thus gains orbital energy. The sling is released first. Its velocity relative to the Earth is only 2 km/s. Before the sling is released, small rocket engines permanently attached to both ends of the the sling make it spin about the outer tip of the bolo. At the same time a sounding rocket lifts a payload to the altitude of 100 km. (My favorite propellant for the sounding rocket is the hydrogen peroxide monopropellant because it is safe and clean.) The payload and the sling have the same mass; their total mass is the same as the mass of the lunar cargo. The sling captures the payload, which at this moment is stationary relative to the Earth. The sling is made of Zylon and is strong enough to reverse relative velocity of the terrestrial cargoes and the payload. If we treat the momentum exchange as perfectly elastic collision, the principle of conservation of linear momentum implies that when the payload and the sling unite, their velocity relative to the Earth is 1 km/s. The small rocket engines permanently attached to the sling control its angular momentum and guide it toward the terrestrial cargoes. When the outermost terrestrial cargo is released from the bolo, its velocity relative to the Earth is 3 km/s. After the exchange of momentum with the payload, its velocity is reversed and reduced to only 0.2 km/s. At the same time the payload velocity relative to the Earth is increased from 1 km/s to 1.8 km/s. After momentum exchanges with the four terrestrial cargoes the payload has the same velocity (3.4 km/s relative to the Earth) as the bolo tip, and it is captured by the bolo. If the payload is going to be used in the greenhouse orbiting the Earth, the bolo's winch reels it in. If it is going to be used in the greenhouse orbiting the Moon, The bolo reverses payload's velocity and hurls it toward the lunavator, which captures it. Modern GPS technology guarantees high precision of all maneuvers. The lunavator and the bolo do not have to be made of unobtanium, buckytubes, or even Zylon. Carbon fibers and S-glass fibers are strong enough, and they are immune to the radiation and temperature extremes of the outer space. Perhaps the most practical material for the lunavator and the bolo is a rope made of S-glass fibers fused together under high tension and high temperature. ================================================== ======= PS. This is not just another newsgroup post, but history in the making. I am going to post drawings and updates at: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/S..._bolo_exchange |
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Andrew Nowicki wrote in message ...
The technology described in this post has not been tested, but it looks trivial when compared to rocket launchers, and it may reduce the cost of space access to a few dollars per kilogram! The technology is based on GPS, a reusable sounding rocket, cheap terrestrial bolo, cheap lunar rotovator, cheap cargo sacks, and a small Zylon sling. A suborbital rocket and some kind of a space tether does seem like a very good way to reduce the cost to orbit. The bolo and the rotovator are useful terms defined by Robert Forward. They are described he http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI122.HTM (Robert P. Hoyt calls lunar rotovator "lunavator.") It seems funny to call a space tether with a tip speed of 1.6 km/sec a "bolo" if it is orbiting Earth and a "rotovator" or "lunavator" when it is orbiting the moon. The same device gets a different name depending on where it is? There is no distinction in what a simulator computes for either. Also, if you search for "rotovator" in Google, most of what you get has nothing to do with "space tethers". Anyway, I think it is better to just use "space tether". The rotovator hurls the sacks filled with regolith (Moon dust) towards the Earth. In order to do this more than once, it needs to get momentum back from someplace. The next problem is that your sack will need some guidance and thruster control to get exactly where it needs to go to. You can not fling something 1/4 million miles and have it get within a few meters of the spot you were aiming for at exactly the right time. It is mounted on a rotating arm which is attached to a large, rotating, toroidal greenhouse. The arm rotates independently of the greenhouse, so it can easily change the angular velocity of the rotovator. The maximum length of the rotovator is about 200 km. With the mass of the tether and payload on a 200 km lever arm you would need a *really* huge greenhouse to store up an equal amount of angular momentum. For a similar idea I like 2 hotels in GEO connected by a 20 km tether and rotating fast enough to get 1/6th G. This is 131 m/sec tip speed which is so low that the tether can be like 0.8% of combined mass of the 2 hotels. Of course my hotels would have greenhouses, but they are mostly hotels. When a winch reels its cargo in, the cargo moves faster to conserve its angular momentum. This fact makes it possible to increase the orbital energy of the rotovator and the greenhouse without the need for any external thrust. You conserve both your angular momentum (around own center of mass) and your tether systems momentum around the moon. Since you picked up something that was not moving, your overall orbital speed is slower (more mass and less speed for same momentum). So the opposite side of the orbit from where you pick up gets lower. Depending on how high it was to start, you can only do this a few times before you hit the moon. Why do you think you don't need thrust? When the cargo is captured by the terrestrial bolo, its velocity relative to the bolo is 4.3 km/s. For spectra-2000 you would need a tether like 600 times as heavy as your payload to handle a 4.3 km/s tip speed. It is easy to design a reusable sounding rocket which lifts the payload to the altitude of 100 km and accelerates it to the velocity of 2.5 km/s. (When the payload separates from the rocket, its total energy is equivalent to the kinetic energy of only 3 km/s.) I think it is easy to get a reusable sub-orbital rocket going much faster than 2.5 km/sec. I think you are putting too much work on the tether and not enough on the rocket. In order for your LEO tether to pickup something every 90 minutes, I think it has to be in an Equatorial orbit. But the moon only crosses the equatorial plane every 2 weeks, so you can not toss to it all the time from an Equatorial orbit. So I like the idea of tossing to a lower tip speed tether at GEO which can toss large collections of objects to the moon every 2 weeks. You save huge in reducing the mass of your LEO tether because you can get by with a lower tip speed tossing to GEO instead of the moon. Think of it as a two stage tether system where the total mass is less than a single stage tether system because of the exponential tether mass problem. This is very much like the TSTO vs SSTO problem. If you have equal mass going both directions (i.e. as much regolith coming back from the moon as payload going to the moon), then you don't need thrust on LEO-tether, GEO-tether, or Lunar-tether. But getting a setup working with the moon seems like a more costly way to start than some others. We like an EDT to boost momentum for the LEO tether and a solar sail to boost momentum for the GEO tether. The mass for the solar cells for the EDT or the solar sail for the GEO tether are not all that bad. And once you have this infrastructure in place you could do a reasonable sized payload (we work with 4,000 kg) every 90 minutes. This looks like CATS to the Cates. :-) Have you tried things on tether simulator? http://spacetethers.com/spacetethers.html -- Vince |
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Vincent Cate wrote:
VC The same device gets a different name depending on VC where it is? You did not read the web page which explains the difference: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI122.HTM The name depends on whether the device picks up its cargo from the surface of a planet or a moon. If it can do that, it is called the rotovator. If it cannot, it is called the bolo. I have seen the rotovator term in several publications. AN The rotovator hurls the sacks filled with regolith AN (Moon dust) towards the Earth. AN In order to do this more than once, it needs to get AN momentum back from someplace. No, it does not. VC The next problem is that your sack will need some VC guidance and thruster control to get exactly where VC it needs to go to. You can not fling something 1/4 VC million miles and have it get within a few meters VC of the spot you were aiming for at exactly the right VC time. You did not read the web page about GPS accuracy: http://gipsy.jpl.nasa.gov/igdg/syste....html#accuracy VC With the mass of the tether and payload on a 200 km VC lever arm you would need a *really* huge greenhouse VC to store up an equal amount of angular momentum. VC For a similar idea I like 2 hotels in GEO connected VC by a 20 km tether and rotating fast enough to get VC 1/6th G. This is 131 m/sec tip speed which is so VC low that the tether can be like 0.8% of combined VC mass of the 2 hotels. Of course my hotels would have VC greenhouses, but they are mostly hotels. I agree. The first, small system of this kind can be any large spinning object. Note that the system can "bootstrap" itself, which means that a small, one ton system can lift into space a much more massive system. AN When a winch reels its cargo in, the cargo moves AN faster to conserve its angular momentum. This fact AN makes it possible to increase the orbital energy AN of the rotovator and the greenhouse without the need AN for any external thrust. VC You conserve both your angular momentum (around own VC center of mass) and your tether systems momentum VC around the moon. Since you picked up something that VC was not moving, your overall orbital speed is slower VC (more mass and less speed for same momentum). So the VC opposite side of the orbit from where you pick up VC gets lower. Depending on how high it was to start, VC you can only do this a few times before you hit the VC moon. Why do you think you don't need thrust? The lunavator picks up cargo from the Moon, reels it in and hurls it backward before it gets to the other side of the Moon. Its orbital energy is increased, but its angular momentum about its own center of mass is decreased. This is why the arm is needed to adjust the angular momentum of the lunavator. When you run out of the angular momentum, you have to reverse the angular velocity of the lunavator before you release its cargo. (If you reverse the angular velocity of the lunavator, you cannot pick up anything from the Moon unless you reverse it again.) AN When the cargo is captured by the terrestrial bolo, AN its velocity relative to the bolo is 4.3 km/s. VC For spectra-2000 you would need a tether like 600 VC times as heavy as your payload to handle a 4.3 km/s VC tip speed. You did not read the web page which explains it: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1SL.HTM The characteristic velocity of Spectra 2000 is 2690 m/s, so the minimum tether mass is about 40 times greater than the cargo mass. AN It is easy to design a reusable sounding rocket which AN lifts the payload to the altitude of 100 km and accelerates AN it to the velocity of 2.5 km/s. (When the payload separates AN from the rocket, its total energy is equivalent to the AN kinetic energy of only 3 km/s.) VC I think it is easy to get a reusable sub-orbital rocket VC going much faster than 2.5 km/sec. I think you are VC putting too much work on the tether and not enough on VC the rocket. We could argue about that point for ever. I prefer to use the tethers because they use almost no propellants. The only consumables are Xenon gas used by the ion engines and the cargo sacks. VC In order for your LEO tether to pickup something every VC 90 minutes, I think it has to be in an Equatorial orbit. VC But the moon only crosses the equatorial plane every 2 VC weeks, so you can not toss to it all the time from an VC Equatorial orbit. No. The bolo orbit must be in the same plane as the Moon orbit. This means that the sounding rockets are launched from a different latitude in summer than in winter. VC Have you tried things on tether simulator? VC http://spacetethers.com/spacetethers.html Yes, but it is too simple to simulate the system we are talking about (lunavator bolo exchange). The system is a complex celestial ballet of 3 rotating tethers. There is a great need for a simulator that explains the ballet, and you are the best guy to make such a simulator! PS. I made another sling improvement: terrestrial cargoes are attached to both ends of the sling when the sling is released from the bolo. I also made a drawing of the lunavator. It is posted at: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/S...M/SPBI1324.JPG |
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Andrew Nowicki wrote:
AN I also made a drawing of the lunavator. It is posted at: AN http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/S...M/SPBI1324.JPG Wrong URL. The drawing is posted at: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1324.JPG and http://www.medianet.pl/~andrew/SPBI1324.JPG |
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Andrew Nowicki wrote:
AN I also made a drawing of the lunavator. It is posted at: AN http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/S...M/SPBI1324.JPG Wrong URL. The drawing is posted at: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1324.JPG and http://www.medianet.pl/~andrew/SPBI1324.JPG |
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Andrew Nowicki wrote in message ...
You did not read the web page which explains the difference: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI122.HTM In fact I did read it before posting. My previous comment still stands. VC In order to do this more than once, it needs to get VC momentum back from someplace. No, it does not. Thats not an argument, that's just contradiction. :-) VC The next problem is that your sack will need some VC guidance and thruster control to get exactly where VC it needs to go to. You can not fling something 1/4 VC million miles and have it get within a few meters VC of the spot you were aiming for at exactly the right VC time. You did not read the web page about GPS accuracy: http://gipsy.jpl.nasa.gov/igdg/syste....html#accuracy Once again, yes, I looked at that. While it is true that GPS can be made very accurate, this does not imply that you can fling a sack from the moon and hit a 10 meter target 1/4 million miles away that is going around the Earth at 7.7 km/sec without any mid-course correction. If that is in there, I missed it. :-) VC For spectra-2000 you would need a tether like 600 VC times as heavy as your payload to handle a 4.3 km/s VC tip speed. You did not read the web page which explains it: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1SL.HTM The characteristic velocity of Spectra 2000 is 2690 m/s, so the minimum tether mass is about 40 times greater than the cargo mass. No, it is not. See, two can play contradiction. :-) Though this is not the best use of a newsgroup. We could argue about that point for ever. No, I won't argue any of these points any more. We mostly have contradiction and you telling me I have not read things I have read. And that is not an argument worth attending. Yes, but it is too simple to simulate the system we are talking about (lunavator bolo exchange). The system is a complex celestial ballet of 3 rotating tethers. There is a great need for a simulator that explains the ballet, and you are the best guy to make such a simulator! In fact my simulator can handle 3 tethers at once (or any number). And you can track a payload, or zoom and pan, etc. So you could simulate and follow very complex things. It is just easier to develop the parts separately. Once all the parts stop changing, I will make a sort of movie where you can watch everything from start to finish. I also made a drawing of the lunavator. It is posted at: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/S...M/SPBI1324.JPG It is really at: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1324.JPG I love your 3D drawings. -- Vince |
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Andrew Nowicki wrote in message ...
You did not read the web page which explains the difference: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI122.HTM In fact I did read it before posting. My previous comment still stands. VC In order to do this more than once, it needs to get VC momentum back from someplace. No, it does not. Thats not an argument, that's just contradiction. :-) VC The next problem is that your sack will need some VC guidance and thruster control to get exactly where VC it needs to go to. You can not fling something 1/4 VC million miles and have it get within a few meters VC of the spot you were aiming for at exactly the right VC time. You did not read the web page about GPS accuracy: http://gipsy.jpl.nasa.gov/igdg/syste....html#accuracy Once again, yes, I looked at that. While it is true that GPS can be made very accurate, this does not imply that you can fling a sack from the moon and hit a 10 meter target 1/4 million miles away that is going around the Earth at 7.7 km/sec without any mid-course correction. If that is in there, I missed it. :-) VC For spectra-2000 you would need a tether like 600 VC times as heavy as your payload to handle a 4.3 km/s VC tip speed. You did not read the web page which explains it: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1SL.HTM The characteristic velocity of Spectra 2000 is 2690 m/s, so the minimum tether mass is about 40 times greater than the cargo mass. No, it is not. See, two can play contradiction. :-) Though this is not the best use of a newsgroup. We could argue about that point for ever. No, I won't argue any of these points any more. We mostly have contradiction and you telling me I have not read things I have read. And that is not an argument worth attending. Yes, but it is too simple to simulate the system we are talking about (lunavator bolo exchange). The system is a complex celestial ballet of 3 rotating tethers. There is a great need for a simulator that explains the ballet, and you are the best guy to make such a simulator! In fact my simulator can handle 3 tethers at once (or any number). And you can track a payload, or zoom and pan, etc. So you could simulate and follow very complex things. It is just easier to develop the parts separately. Once all the parts stop changing, I will make a sort of movie where you can watch everything from start to finish. I also made a drawing of the lunavator. It is posted at: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/S...M/SPBI1324.JPG It is really at: http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1324.JPG I love your 3D drawings. -- Vince |
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