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Does anyone know who the astrophotographer is in this image?
http://sabbe.fragzone.se/KPO/domes.htm Robin |
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![]() robin_astro wrote: Does anyone know who the astrophotographer is in this image? http://sabbe.fragzone.se/KPO/domes.htm It's not Road Al is it? |
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![]() robin_astro wrote: Does anyone know who the astrophotographer is in this image? http://sabbe.fragzone.se/KPO/domes.htm Robin I do not know who you are Sir but for once you have correctly identified what most people here are - astrophotographers. The exquisite astronomical heliocentric insights and their refinements such as Kepler's and Roemer's never required a telescope for the working principles are strictly intutive when it comes to cosmological motion and structure.Telescopes are a much later invention and enter astronomy long after the great heliocentric insights emerged (apart from Roemer's insight ). uk.sci.astrophotography is a better name for this forum and those who participate in basing images on a calendrically driven clockwork celestial sphere and it is certainly a good pursuit.It is not and never can be astronomy,amateur or otherwise with the working principles it adheres to for while astrophotographers can graduate to astronomical working principles making themselves astronomers,astrophotographers are not astronomers. The search to find a living astronomer who has the feel for astronomical methods and insights,such as basic Copernican heliocentricity,has now reached ridiculous proportions.Not one person can judge where Newton's misread plotted data and mangled astronomical methods and principles even when time lapse fottage of the foraward motion of the Earth overtaking the slower forward motion of the outer planets makes understanding the Copernican reasoning easy - http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif The response of the astrophotographers and those who are not genuine astronomers is that there is nothing wrong with Newton's view - "For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are always seen direct.." NEWTON If you have to defend Newton's error than this is how you know you are not and never can be an astronomer.Again,thanks for accurately assigning the correct name to your telescopic exercise and perhaps others will eventually appreceate the difference between astronomers and astrophotographers without prejudice. |
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In article .com,
says... Go away, nutter. -- Craig Oldfield |
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![]() robin_astro wrote: Does anyone know who the astrophotographer is in this image? http://sabbe.fragzone.se/KPO/domes.htm No, but the dog's name is 'Lucky'! -- Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ PGM-FI page updated, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. |
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![]() Graham W wrote: robin_astro wrote: Does anyone know who the astrophotographer is in this image? http://sabbe.fragzone.se/KPO/domes.htm No, but the dog's name is 'Lucky'! Lucky? That looks like Frankenstein's monster coming over the hill towards him. |
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![]() Craig Oldfield wrote: In article .com, says... Go away, nutter. -- Craig Oldfield The variable tilting Earth gang - http://www.scienceu.com/observatory/...s/earthyrb.gif And their hemispherical Earth doctrines - http://www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html The Equation of Time is actually the rate of change in orbital orientation as constant axial rotation returns to its noon position,it has absolutely no axial orientation component otherwise that amounts to a hemispherical variable axial tilting Earth. This information is lost on your kind however the climatologists who require a global explanation for climate norms rather than the really dumb hemispherical meteorological weather patterns which are just a convenience.Astrophotographers,of course,believe that meteorological patterns or seasons are a hemispherical phenomena and do not make it to the level of global astronomical causes for climate norms. Turns out that intellectual and intutive imbalances are more dangerous and frightening than climate imbalances and these empirical dark ages will certainly be seen as a temporary destructive phase in human endeavor.Carry on with your pretty pictures,climatologists and other responsible investigators will soon have a more accurate mechanism for climate norms,free of the variable axial tilting mob of which you are a part. |
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:15:54 GMT, Craig Oldfield
wrote: In article .com, says... Go away, nutter. craig just stick him in your killfile like ive just done gets boring listening to the same old stuff over and over |
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Nobody has to read an article so why bother with these silly killfiles.
No doubt you believe that the Eareth tilted a little bit towards the Sun over the last 24 hours or did it tilt a little bit away from the Sun,the eternal conundrum of the hemispherical Earther and his analemma. What really happened is that the Earth's orbital orientation to the Sun changed and longitudinally,that rate of change in embedded in the Equation of Time correction. The trouble with you and your colleagues is that you imagine that this is a minor issue that was resolved centuries ago but nothing could be further from the truth,at least for people who are genuinely capable with the astronomical and geometrical language of heliocentric astronomers.Unfamiliarity is my only enemy for the more people are aware of the original reasoning along with contemporary tools such as time lapse footage of planetary motion,the easier it is to correct things such as how the clock system refers to axial rotation as an independent motion or orbital motion in isolation for heliocentric orbital purposes.Crawling into a killfile is your own business but it matters little to me what you do,in matters refering to timekeeping,planetary motions and celestial structure that is my business while astrophotography is yours. |
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