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Old April 5th 06, 06:45 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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....everyone. Apple will officially support booting Windows XP on Mactel
hardware. That's not emulation; it's native on Intel hardware. Please
see http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/. Apple had originally said
that it would "do nothing to prevent" customers from running Windows on
their Mactels, but that it wouldn't actively support that, either.
I don't think anyone believed that.

This is not the full monty, in my opinion; that will come (sooner, not
later, I suspect) when Mac hardware can run Windows /simultaneously/
with Mac OS X (BSD Unix,) as Macs already run Unix software
simultaneously with Mac OS X software. Yes, the Mac has been able to
run Windows in this fashion for years, but only by emulating a Pentium
processor. That's fine for astronomy and other software that is not
resource-hungry, but it's not suitable for most games, 3D rendering, or
other heavy-duty applications, e.g. This emulation capability ("Virtual
PC") was an attraction for Mac users, including many amateur
astronomers, but it is unlikely to have attracted many Windows users
who would have liked to switch to the Mac OS.

The winner hardware-wise /should/ be Apple. With the exception of a
certain area of Colorado, increasing numbers of Windows users, both
private and in business, have been buying Macs. They're called
"Switchers," but it isn't really known whether they are giving up their
Windows machines or just expanding their capabilities. With the Mac
becoming the only computer that can run Mac, Unix, and Windows software
/natively/ no one has to give up anything, and the task of choosing
which hardware to buy is likely to be a no-brainer in a much wider
variety of disciplines.

Unfortunately, the Windows side of a Mactel will still require the full
range of security software (except in a certain area of Colorado); only
the Mac side will remain impenetrable (except in a certain area of
Colorado.) It has been common practice for those running Windows under
emulation on a Mac to use only the Mac OS side for the Internet.
Windows software downloads are done on the Mac side where there is no
potential for harm, checked for viruses and other malware, then moved
to the Windows side and installed.

Davoud

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While this is not a statistically meaningful sample, I was interested
to hear this morning from a friend who works in one of the
Baltimore-Washington-area Apple stores that they were swamped with
customers waiting to get in at opening time. Employees were at first
puzzled -- they had not heard about "bootcamp" at the time, but the
customers had, and were snapping up Mactels "like crazy." Windows-users
all, they were. Two had brought Windows laptops with them, hoping for
trade-ins!

Attn: all persons who have quaint old eyepieces with glass at both ends
and no wires hanging from them, and no wires hanging from their
'scopes, either, for that matter: kindly accept my apology for wasting
your time with this post.

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Old April 5th 06, 07:01 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Davoud wrote:
...everyone. Apple will officially support booting Windows XP on Mactel
hardware. That's not emulation; it's native on Intel hardware. Please
see http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/.


Cool, Davoud: Thanks for the info!

Phil
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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:45:24 -0400, Davoud wrote:

The winner hardware-wise /should/ be Apple. With the exception of a
certain area of Colorado, increasing numbers of Windows users, both
private and in business, have been buying Macs...


Happily, I live in just such an area of Colorado, where people still
know the difference between a good computer and OS, and a marginal piece
of obsolete fluff.

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Happily, I live in just such an area of Colorado


So does Min!


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Old April 5th 06, 07:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:45:24 -0400, Davoud wrote:


The winner hardware-wise /should/ be Apple. With the exception of a
certain area of Colorado, increasing numbers of Windows users, both
private and in business, have been buying Macs...



Happily, I live in just such an area of Colorado, where people still
know the difference between a good computer and OS, and a marginal piece
of obsolete fluff.



Chris, I think it is an overstatement to call PCs obsolete, just because
Macs can run WinXP.

Phil
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While I've been forced to use this xpbox for online stuff, at lest for my
offline work I still have one of the Best if not the Best Computer ever
made. It's 100% virus proof, and the programs written for it are not the ram
eating type this maching uses.

Make Mine ATARI Home of an Atari TT030 AND an Atari 1040ST.


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Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:45:24 -0400, Davoud wrote:


The winner hardware-wise /should/ be Apple. With the exception of a
certain area of Colorado, increasing numbers of Windows users, both
private and in business, have been buying Macs...



Happily, I live in just such an area of Colorado, where people still
know the difference between a good computer and OS, and a marginal piece
of obsolete fluff.


Chris, I think it is an overstatement to call PCs obsolete, just because
Macs can run WinXP.

Phil



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Old April 6th 06, 01:34 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Phil Wheeler wrote:
Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:45:24 -0400, Davoud wrote:


The winner hardware-wise /should/ be Apple. With the exception of a
certain area of Colorado, increasing numbers of Windows users, both
private and in business, have been buying Macs...




Happily, I live in just such an area of Colorado, where people still
know the difference between a good computer and OS, and a marginal piece
of obsolete fluff.



Chris, I think it is an overstatement to call PCs obsolete, just because
Macs can run WinXP.


I thought WinXP was obsolete.

Shawn
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Old April 5th 06, 08:15 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Davoud wrote:
...everyone. Apple will officially support booting Windows XP on Mactel
hardware.


If they can get virualization running with that duo core then that
would be a major accomplishment.

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Old April 5th 06, 09:56 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Davoud" wrote in message
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...everyone. Apple will officially support booting Windows XP on Mactel
hardware. That's not emulation; it's native on Intel hardware. Please
see http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/. Apple had originally said
that it would "do nothing to prevent" customers from running Windows on
their Mactels, but that it wouldn't actively support that, either.
I don't think anyone believed that.


In that case, there is no reason to buy over-expensive Apple hardware when
my 64 bit Athlon can do the same job for much less money.

George


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Old April 5th 06, 10:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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George wrote:

In that case, there is no reason to buy over-expensive Apple hardware when
my 64 bit Athlon can do the same job for much less money.

George





The fact that this is the case and has been all along,
makes his announcement not that big a deal at all...

I notice no one is worrying about trying to run mac
OS on an intel platform, it would be another non
starter.

And the real winner is Winbloze... it just keeps
selling and selling...........



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