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Susan Sarandon narrates film on Challenger disaster? You gotta depend on her
finding a way to blame Bush -- or at least, blame Reagan. Considering the
cultural background this film project sprang from, I start out suspicious of
accuracy.
Special section next Sunday to honor Christa McAuliffe
http://www.theunionleader.com/articl...d-2f3dc54df62c


Jan 16



The inspirational story of New Hampshire's own Christa McAuliffe will be
celebrated in a special tribute section on the 20th anniversary of the space
shuttle Challenger's loss. The New Hampshire Sunday News will present "Reach
for the Stars: A Tribute to Christa" on Sunday, Jan. 22, featuring candid
interviews with her mother, as well as Barbara Morgan, the
teacher-turned-astronaut who accompanied McAuliffe on her NASA training.

The section will include photos of McAuliffe on her amazing life journey
from childhood through her selection and training to become the nation's
first teacher in space.

We also preview a new documentary film that will debut in New Hampshire on
Saturday, Jan. 28, at the Dana Center of St. Anselm College in Manchester,
the 20th anniversary date of the space shuttle explosion that claimed
McAuliffe and her fellow astronauts.

The documentary film by Renee Sotile and Mary Jo Godges, "Christa McAuliffe:
Reach for the Stars" is sponsored by the New Hampshire Union Leader and is
narrated by Academy Award winner Susan Sarandon. The filmmakers will be on
hand to answer audience questions at the 3 p.m. screening.

Tickets for the show are $8 for general admission and $6 with a student ID.
They can be purchased by calling the Dana Center box office at 641-7700,
Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. Or, visit UnionLeader.com for more
options.

Proceeds will be donated to the Christa McAuliffe Planetarium in Concord.


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Jim Oberg wrote:

Susan Sarandon narrates film on Challenger disaster? You gotta depend on her
finding a way to blame Bush -- or at least, blame Reagan.

Well, considering that it was Reagan's idea to send a teacher into
space, and the launching had to be done on that day schedule so he could
refer to her in his State Of The Union address that night, and that he
didn't even bother to watch the launching, and when told the Shuttle had
exploded asked "That's tragic... was that the one with the teacher on
board?", yeah, I think you could find a little unintentional complicity
there.
This article thinks so also:
http://www.newfoundations.com/Clabau...taMcAulif.html

Actually, Susie baby* will probably blame House Atreides or the
Fremen...but beware! What looks like a simple plot on the part of the
Wensicia Corrino to strew discord among NASA's Spacing Guild is nothing
more than one small facet of a dark and sinister jewel whose true depths
shall only be completely plumbed in the triumphant 20th book of the Dune
trilogy: "Wormsign In My Pants...or...How Leto Met Jessica". ;-)

* I'm going to refer to her as that because I think it would really sass
her off, and I would like to see if she's as haughty in real life as she
was in "Children Of Dune".

Pat

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"Pat Flannery" wrote
Well, considering that it was Reagan's idea to send a teacher into space,
and the launching had to be done on that day schedule so he could refer to
her in his State Of The Union address that night, and that he didn't even
bother to watch the launching, and when told the Shuttle had exploded
asked "That's tragic... was that the one with the teacher on board?",
yeah, I think you could find a little unintentional complicity there.
This article thinks so also:
http://www.newfoundations.com/Clabau...taMcAulif.html


Pat, quoting some distraught teacher's 'late night thoughts' isn't evidence
for a widespread 'urban legend' fuelled by political passions -- at least,
not the way I've learned to argue from evidence rather than emotion.

Clabaugh's article only shows how little he actually understood
the event:

".. The Orbiter now hangs vulnerably beneath the
roaring rocket boosters and external fuel tank ..."
After the roll, the Orbiter is 'below' the ET but is
hardly hanging, since its engies generate four and half
million pounds of thrust while the Orbiter weighs only
two hundred and fifty thousand pounds. It ain't hanging,
buddy -- it's pushing.


"In the crew cabin, five men and two women feel themselves
being inverted..."
Oh? How -- blood rushing to their heads?


"At 19,000 feet Challenger reaches Mach I, and the rocket boosters throttle
back in anticipation of the maximum aerodynamic stress generated when
Challenger breaks the sonic barrier."
Not exactly. Actually, not hardly. Nothing to do with the sound barrier.


"The crew members begin to relax. .."

OK, the guy is just dreaming now -- making up stuff to feel the way he wants
to..



"Suddenly a catastrophic explosion tears Challenger apart. "

Sure, that's what the first impression was -- we all know better now.



"Recovered gauges indicated most of the emergency air supply has been
consumed."

Nope. Guages had nothing to do with this conclusion for SOME of the PEAPs.



"But the investigation which followed the catastrophe clearly indicates that
NASA officials compromised the safety of the crew unnecessarily; and that
makes their death another matter. But the element of this tragedy that has
special poignancy for me is the death of Teacher-in-Space Christa McAuliffe.
I still cannot think about that with anything but angry melancholy. To me
her fate is pure tragic metaphor."



He's an English teacher, right?



"Unknown to Christa McAuliffe, however, the real mission was aiding
President Reagan's reelection. A teacher in Challenger was the cheapest way
of making the incumbent President look like a supporter of teachers and
schooling even though he had set out to eliminate the U.S. Department of
Education and was making drastic cuts in the Federal education budget."

Aha, the mask comes off...



"In 1984 when the decision was made to launch a Teacher-in-Space, the
Reagan-Bush re-election campaign was already underway. Reagan-Bush was known
to be vulnerable to Mondale-Ferraro on several issues. One of the most
important was education. Mondale effectively highlighted Reagan's
"second-rate leadership" that produced "an appalling record" of "educational
neglect." His campaign issued a "report card" on Reagan educational policy
that gave the President "F's" in everything but dramatics and sports."

Yeah, that election was such a near-thing, except for the funny business in
Florida -- wait, I'm getting ahead of myself.





"NASA's professional astronauts were uncomfortable with political passengers
such as Christa McAuliffe. Astronaut Judy Resnick, who was to perish with
McCauliffe, once privately asked a friend,..."

You can always tell a phony scholar by the way they misspell Resnik's name.
So did the NY Times.





"In fact, one reason for NASA officials going ahead on January 28th in spite
of dangerously cold temperatures and ice build up on the launch structure
was to get the space craft in orbit in time for the President's State of the
Union Message that very evening."

Another way to tell a phony scholar is when they add phrases like "in fact"
to assertions in dispute.



"But the whole Teacher-in-Space effort was just bad faith public
relations -- eyewash for an administration that had gotten itself into
political hot water by giving nothing but empty platitudes and slashed
federal budgets to teachers for four long years. The death of Christa
McCauliff is a metaphor for all the phony pronouncements of lofty schooling
goals that no one takes seriously. The death of Christa McCauliff is a
metaphor for every conscientious teacher in the inner cities who must
"teach" in overcrowded, understaffed, dilapidated buildings destabilized by
violence. The death of Christa McCauliff is a metaphor for every
conscientious teacher working without resources who is piously told that he
or she could, if they only tried, do better. Yes, for me, the death of
Christa McCauliff is a metaphor; and I can't think of a sadder lesson for
our children and our country."

That's his opinion -- but he's certainly no reliable source for credible
space history, Pat, and you're cheating if you try to pass him off as one.



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Pat Flannery wrote:



Jim Oberg wrote:

Susan Sarandon narrates film on Challenger disaster? You gotta depend
on her
finding a way to blame Bush -- or at least, blame Reagan.

Well, considering that it was Reagan's idea to send a teacher into
space, and the launching had to be done on that day schedule so he could
refer to her in his State Of The Union address that night, and that he
didn't even bother to watch the launching, and when told the Shuttle had
exploded asked "That's tragic... was that the one with the teacher on
board?", yeah, I think you could find a little unintentional complicity
there.


only if you also blame your wife for asking you to go on an errand for
her and you get into a fatal automobile accident while doing so.


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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:09:46 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:


Susan Sarandon narrates film on Challenger disaster? You gotta depend on her
finding a way to blame Bush -- or at least, blame Reagan.

Well, considering that it was Reagan's idea to send a teacher into
space, and the launching had to be done on that day schedule so he could
refer to her in his State Of The Union address that night, and that he
didn't even bother to watch the launching, and when told the Shuttle had
exploded asked "That's tragic... was that the one with the teacher on
board?", yeah, I think you could find a little unintentional complicity
there.


There is zero evidence that the Reagan Administration interfered in
the launch decision, this despite extensive attempts to find some by
his politcal rivals. So that means either there was no conspiracy, or
Reagan was better at coverups in 1986 than he would be a year later
during Iran-Contra. The schedule pressure for Galileo/ISPM and NASA's
own arrogance easily explain the disaster, there is no need to invoke
conspiracy theories. Even your own conspiracy theory admits that
Reagan wasn't even paying attention to the launch, and wasn't sure it
was the one with the teacher, so that tends to weaken the "Reagan
ordered it!" charge.

The idea, in an of itself, of sending a civilian into space was not
ludicrous in 1984. By then, Shuttle was flying semi-regularly, and
private citizens working for commercial firms had already flown in
space, so the suggestion that non-astronaut types might be able to
start going up on the Shuttle was only a matter of time. The Reagan
Administration supported the Teacher in Space, Journalist in Space
(Cronkite?), and Artist in Space (John Denver?) programs, and chose
the Teacher to go first.

Brian
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"Jim Oberg" wrote in message ...


Susan Sarandon narrates film on Challenger disaster? You gotta depend on

her
finding a way to blame Bush -- or at least, blame Reagan. Considering the
cultural background this film project sprang from, I start out suspicious

of
accuracy.
Special section next Sunday to honor Christa McAuliffe

http://www.theunionleader.com/articl...d-2f3dc54df62c

Of course it was all Reagan's fault! History has proven that space shuttles
blow up only when a Republican is President!

Bush destroyed Columbia because he wanted to drive media attention away from
his plots to bomb brown people and steal their oil.

Likewise, 911 was an inside job. Bush created the tsunami by detonating a
nuke. He is also responsible for the hurricanes. The weather is controlled
by HARP at the North Pole. Bush uses chemtrails to control the population.
Bush blew up the levees in New Orleans because he wanted to kill black
people. Bush also drowns puppies.

Daddy Bush was on the grassy knoll, 11-22-1962. Nixon faked the moon
landings. Reagan blew up Challenger and also Mt. St. Helens.

Everything is ALL BUSH'S FAULT!



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CNN to air McAuliffe documentary
1/16/06

A documentary, co-produced and directed by a Rochester native, is getting
national attention. "Christa McAuliffe: Reach for the Stars" will air this
month on CNN. Renee Sotile, a former photojournalist at News 10NBC, spent
several years working on the documentary. It chronicles the life of Christa
McAuliffe, the first teacher selected to travel to space. Sotile interviewed
McAuliffe's family, friends and co-workers for the piece. Twenty years ago,
McAuliffe and a six-member crew were killed when the NASA Space Shuttle
Challenger exploded. The one-hour special, hosted and narrated by CNN
anchor, Paula Zahn, airs Sunday, Jan. 22, at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. The program
re-airs on Saturday, Jan. 28, and Sunday, Jan. 29, at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m.
"Christa McAuliffe: Reach for the Stars" won Best Documentary at last year's
High Falls Film Festival in Rochester.


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"Jim Oberg" wrote
A documentary, co-produced and directed by a Rochester native, is getting
national attention. "Christa McAuliffe: Reach for the Stars" will air this
month on CNN. Renee Sotile, a former photojournalist at News 10NBC, spent
several years working on the documentary.


Google Sotile. She is listed as a producer with inter alia
a 3-minute documentary to her credit, 'Texas Bulls--t",
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2639910
expressing her hatred of George W. Bush.

More on the CNN broadcast plans at
http://www.traipsingthrufilms.com/ and
http://www.traipsingthrufilms.com/Press.htm



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Here's the real reason the shuttle blew up.
Senator Jake Garn, of Utah, was the first politician to fly
in the shuttle. He made sure that the booster tanks were made
in Utah, and not in Mississippi, or some other state.
Since utah is land-locked, and no barges, or trucks, could transport
the boosters, they were built in three sections.
A "rubber" "o" ring was needed to seal the sections after
assembly. These rings failed when the launch was performed
during cold weather, against the advice of engineeers. The seals were
not flexible enough at low temps. If the
boosters had been constructed in one piece, the disaster never would have
happened.

This is what happens when you cross post to alt.conspiracy.

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:22:52 -0600, (Don) wrote:

This is what happens when you cross post to alt.conspiracy.


....Yeah, but *we* didn't crosspost. It was the troll scum. Don't
punish *us* for -his- crimes.

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