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Old December 31st 05, 03:00 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur
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This time of year it is traditional to look back over the past year so I
thought I would try to go back a little further! With a redshift of 3.87 and
a luminosity of over ten million, million suns, Quasar APM08279+5255 is one
of the most luminous and remote objects accessible to amateur equipment. We
see it as it was just 1.6 billion years after the Big Bang. I used a Star
Analyser diffraction grating, my SC3 modified webcam and VC200L to make a
measurement of the redshift. See the webpage for full details.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/...spectra_22.htm

Happy New Year
Robin


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Old December 31st 05, 05:48 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur
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To Robin

Have these cataloguers not told you yet that when you view external
galaxies through the myopic celestial sphere of the foreground
constellations, every point in the Universe is going to look central.

Have you not noticed the designation of external galaxies within
constellations by the cataloguers,I guess you have not -

http://www.astrocruise.com/m82.htm

I would really like to give you a lesson in how the solar system's
uni-directional galactic orbital motion can generate the impression
that all points are moving away from each other and when allied to the
celestial sphere you get the impression that 'every valid point is the
center of the universe' and moving away from each other but even I
refuse to descend to homocentricity.

The evolution of the universe in terms of visible galaxies, may indeed
have involved a hotter,denser and smaller visible universe but
projecting local rotational effects or rather ignoring them is the
price you pay for Newton's retaining the celestial sphere for
heliocentricity.

Don't be so greedy,the astronomical history of the solar system is
wrapped up in the Earth's geological strata,coming to appreceate how
terrestial and astronomical disciplines mesh will be the first real
advancement in this area of natural phenomena for many centuries .

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oriel36 wrote:

even I refuse to descend to homocentricity.

These guys made the descent:

http://www.swt.org/events/sfgay2/P6290028.JPG
http://www.swt.org/events/sfgay2/P6290257.JPG

(Work place safe images, but silly)

Shawn
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Old December 31st 05, 06:23 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur
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"Shawn" sdotherecurry@bresnannextdotnet wrote in message
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oriel36 wrote:

even I refuse to descend to homocentricity.

These guys made the descent:

http://www.swt.org/events/sfgay2/P6290028.JPG
http://www.swt.org/events/sfgay2/P6290257.JPG

(Work place safe images, but silly)

Shawn


I believe they ARE the homocentrics Oriel is referring to, Shawn ... no
wonder he's hopping mad if they've taken control of the universe, again. But
none of them are wearing copper knickers, so what's all the fuss about?

P.S. Happy New Year, matey!


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Here is your homocentric universe -

http://www.geocities.com/astrologyan...tialsphere.htm

All you have to do is locate the external galaxies against the
celestial sphere and mistake local rotation for accelerating expansion
and you are all set with 'every valid point is the center of the
universe'.

Even the astrologers have some dignity as they draw their conceptions
from very ancient traditions and observations of the constellations and
I have nothing to say against them however the guys who call themselves
astronomers after Copernicus is a different matter.

Maybe next year people will not have to suffer the very embarrassing
expanding balloon universe but then again they stopped listening a long
time ago.

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Robin Leadbeater wrote:
This time of year it is traditional to look back over the past year so I
thought I would try to go back a little further! With a redshift of 3.87 and
a luminosity of over ten million, million suns, Quasar APM08279+5255 is one
of the most luminous and remote objects accessible to amateur equipment. We
see it as it was just 1.6 billion years after the Big Bang. I used a Star
Analyser diffraction grating, my SC3 modified webcam and VC200L to make a
measurement of the redshift. See the webpage for full details.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/...spectra_22.htm

Happy New Year
Robin



Thanks for posting this Robin!
-Sam
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Robin Leadbeater wrote:
This time of year it is traditional to look back over the past year so I
thought I would try to go back a little further! With a redshift of 3.87 and
a luminosity of over ten million, million suns, Quasar APM08279+5255 is one
of the most luminous and remote objects accessible to amateur equipment. We
see it as it was just 1.6 billion years after the Big Bang. I used a Star
Analyser diffraction grating, my SC3 modified webcam and VC200L to make a
measurement of the redshift. See the webpage for full details.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/...spectra_22.htm

Happy New Year
Robin



Brilliant work!

Chris
 




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