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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:01:57 -0600, Art Deco wrote:
Bookman wrote: On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:49:55 -0600, Art Deco wrote: Brad Guth wrote: Bookman, I very much doubt it, Guthball, since you cannot accept the overwhelming evidence of the historic Apollo landings now. What independent hard-scientific evidence? It seems as though I've asked and you haven't delivered squat. Here's some "squat" for you guth, but you'll ignore it: http://www.clavius.org/ Of _course_ incest-cloned borgboi Bratty Guthball will ignore it - it's full of _facts_ which directly contradicts his LLPOF conspiracy dullusions. Face it, Guthball is too busy staring between butt-cheeks to be bothered with facts. Like his demands for "independent evidence", which is impossible, since only NASA went there. A very ko0ky demand, don't you agree? guth refuses to leave the fantasy world he has constructed. You're getting your eviction notice now. And it's evident you'll go out whining about 'evidence' and NASA. Sun's String of Fury Continues as 7th Major Flare Erupts By Robert Roy Britt Senior Science Writer posted: 09 September 2005 10:33 pm ET Updated 12:36 p.m. ET Sept. 11 An ongoing series of seven major solar flares, including two on Saturday, could disrupt communications on Earth and generate colorful sky shows for people at high northern latitudes for the next several days. Already satellites have been affected. Even more serious effects are possible this week. Continued: http://space.com/scienceastronomy/05...ar_flares.html |
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Wow! extremely interesting sun stuff.
What's that got to do with the "The ET UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac of Venus" that's so nicely shielded by the atmospheric ocean that's surrounding Venus? ~ Life upon Venus, Township w/Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm War is war, thus "in war there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason of having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing by whatever rules, such as GW Bush. |
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On 12 Sep 2005 09:31:28 -0700, "Brad Guth" wrote:
Wow! extremely interesting sun stuff. What's that got to do with the "The ET UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac of Venus" that's so nicely shielded by the atmospheric ocean that's surrounding Venus? ~ What it all means is Sol, the star in the center of our solar system, fondly called the Sun for what seems eons which in actuality is only a hiccup in time is about to throw Earth into an electromagnetic tail spin of epic proportions. If Earth's inhabitants prefer being roasted by one of those solar flares as it tickles Earth, then don't turn off HAARP. Either way, Earth's telecommunications could be disrupted for years. |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:29:27 GMT,
"http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/PurgeTheEvil.htm" wrote: On 12 Sep 2005 09:31:28 -0700, "Brad Guth" wrote: Wow! extremely interesting sun stuff. What's that got to do with the "The ET UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac of Venus" that's so nicely shielded by the atmospheric ocean that's surrounding Venus? ~ What it all means is Sol, the star in the center of our solar system, fondly called the Sun for what seems eons which in actuality is only a hiccup in time is about to throw Earth into an electromagnetic tail spin of epic proportions. If Earth's inhabitants prefer being roasted by one of those solar flares as it tickles Earth, then don't turn off HAARP. Either way, Earth's telecommunications could be disrupted for years. "Inside a (solar) flare, the temperature typically reaches 10 or 20 million degrees Kelvin, and can be as high as 100 million degrees Kelvin. http://hesperia.gsfc.nasa.gov/sftheory/flare.htm |
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On 12 Sep 2005 09:31:28 -0700, "Brad Guth" wrote:
Wow! extremely interesting sun stuff. Yes, it's fascinating. What's that got to do with the "The ET UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac of Venus" that's so nicely shielded by the atmospheric ocean that's surrounding Venus? 1. If you get a chance to hope a ride with extraterrestrials off this rock -- take it. It will be your only opportunity to escape. 2. Once solar flare activity reaches the half-way-to-earth distance, one solar flare will burn off what's left of Earth's atmosphere instantaneously. All breathable oxygen will be instantly gone. The oceans will turn to steam and Earth will have an atmosphere roughly the equivalent of Venus. |
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Isn't this a wee bit extreme.
1. If you get a chance to hop a ride with extraterrestrials off this rock -- take it. It will be your only opportunity to escape. I happen to agree that Venus is technically doable, especially by sufficiently smart ETs that have been there and done that Venus thing for decades if not centuries. However, The environment of Earth is not so much under siege from the sun nearly as much as from our own kind. There's far more destructive and thus negative energy within our intellectual incest borg like arrogance, greed and bigotry to accomplish of task of imploding mother Earth as far as humanity is concerned. Although, besides sol spitting nasty stuff at us, it seems that our magnetosphere has also been dropping like yet another bloody rock but, I believe it's got several hundred years before such allows the SAA to touch down and summarily exterminate all known life within the SAA zone of death for perhaps at least a surface coverage of 1e6 km2, plus eventually making yet another area or extended radius of 10,000 km in all directions into somewhat of a tenuous TBI form of a DMZ where perhaps all of our undesirables could be forced to live. 2. Once solar flare activity reaches the half-way-to-earth distance, one solar flare will burn off what's left of Earth's atmosphere instantaneously. All breathable oxygen will be instantly gone. The oceans will turn to steam and Earth will have an atmosphere roughly the equivalent of Venus. OK, now I'm getting worried that your math is almost as bad as mine. The solar flares are truly nasty and perhaps under the worse possible situation capable of reaching half way towards Earth, although we're still talking about hours at a time and certainly not any 24/7/52 sort of gauntlet. However, the intensity of such nasty amounts of solar energy is fortunately of what's primarily via solar polar zones that, thank God, are not usually pointed at us. However, if the solar core and of it's associated internal energy flux controlled surface managed to rotated by 90 degrees, then we're in for a truly nasty time of it, especially if Earth has to withstand the sorts of 1000~1500 km/s solar winds plus whatever flak within. However, for the environmentally polluted, LLPOF WMD and Muslim killing moment, it seems in spite of ourselves we're holding our own. As per Earth becoming Venus like; I believe that's not going to be entirely possible, that is unless the geothermal and electromotive iron core of Earth gets fired back up to steam, or rather up to venting the necessary gigatonnes worth of CO2 and S8 per year, which would likely take hundreds if not thousands of years in order to establish the similar sorts of thick and nifty amounts of a clouded and thus sufficiently solar reflective and radiation shielding form of an upper atmosphere, thus giving humanity a viable timeline by which our next of kin has an opportunity as to geneticy mutate while accomplishing something in the way of applied technology that'll essentially save their sorry butts and DNA/RNA within from getting TBI to death or from just being summarily roasted. Of course the good side to all of this is that folks should eventually have nearly the entire surface of Earth to habitat upon, instead of the 15% or less of what we're stuck with. By way of our going towards the sun, of getting humanity safely situated upon Venus could become our salvation, especially if it turns out that we don't actually have those thousands of transition years upon Earth to work with. At least upon Venus the solar radiation that reaches that surface isn't going to be nearly as bad off as upon Earth. If we utilized a few of their local rigid airships for continually migrating ourselves into the nighttime season of Venus is obviously that much better off. Fortunately, once having been situated upon Venus there's no shortage of green/renewable energy that's squeaky clean and as I said, it's virtually unlimited. As for toughing it out upon Earth, with the exception of our having to avoid the SAA that's down to the deck as covering 100e6 km2, and at times sharing a TBI average of 100 mr/m2/day; Since our rotation is way too quick as for keeping yourself within nighttime, by day we can always stay inside of sufficiently shielded structures or go underground, whereas there's perhaps 5% of this globe that can be revised as viable for accommodating large numbers of folks (perhaps at best 10% of humanity) as situated safely underground and, as long as our oceans of what has become mostly O2-starved and thus jellyfish plugged worth of dead zones (jellyfish remaining a viable form of life but otherwise not another diatom in sight) haven't boiled off, there's always submarine life to behold. ~ Life upon Venus, Township w/Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm War is war, thus "in war there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason of having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing by whatever rules, such as GW Bush. |
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On 13 Sep 2005 15:35:35 -0700, "Brad Guth" wrote:
Of course. We'll put you in charge of the life rafts. Isn't this a wee bit extreme. 1. If you get a chance to hop a ride with extraterrestrials off this rock -- take it. It will be your only opportunity to escape. I happen to agree that Venus is technically doable, especially by sufficiently smart ETs that have been there and done that Venus thing for decades if not centuries. However, The environment of Earth is not so much under siege from the sun nearly as much as from our own kind. There's far more destructive and thus negative energy within our intellectual incest borg like arrogance, greed and bigotry to accomplish of task of imploding mother Earth as far as humanity is concerned. Although, besides sol spitting nasty stuff at us, it seems that our magnetosphere has also been dropping like yet another bloody rock but, I believe it's got several hundred years before such allows the SAA to touch down and summarily exterminate all known life within the SAA zone of death for perhaps at least a surface coverage of 1e6 km2, plus eventually making yet another area or extended radius of 10,000 km in all directions into somewhat of a tenuous TBI form of a DMZ where perhaps all of our undesirables could be forced to live. 2. Once solar flare activity reaches the half-way-to-earth distance, one solar flare will burn off what's left of Earth's atmosphere instantaneously. All breathable oxygen will be instantly gone. The oceans will turn to steam and Earth will have an atmosphere roughly the equivalent of Venus. OK, now I'm getting worried that your math is almost as bad as mine. The solar flares are truly nasty and perhaps under the worse possible situation capable of reaching half way towards Earth, although we're still talking about hours at a time and certainly not any 24/7/52 sort of gauntlet. However, the intensity of such nasty amounts of solar energy is fortunately of what's primarily via solar polar zones that, thank God, are not usually pointed at us. However, if the solar core and of it's associated internal energy flux controlled surface managed to rotated by 90 degrees, then we're in for a truly nasty time of it, especially if Earth has to withstand the sorts of 1000~1500 km/s solar winds plus whatever flak within. However, for the environmentally polluted, LLPOF WMD and Muslim killing moment, it seems in spite of ourselves we're holding our own. As per Earth becoming Venus like; I believe that's not going to be entirely possible, that is unless the geothermal and electromotive iron core of Earth gets fired back up to steam, or rather up to venting the necessary gigatonnes worth of CO2 and S8 per year, which would likely take hundreds if not thousands of years in order to establish the similar sorts of thick and nifty amounts of a clouded and thus sufficiently solar reflective and radiation shielding form of an upper atmosphere, thus giving humanity a viable timeline by which our next of kin has an opportunity as to geneticy mutate while accomplishing something in the way of applied technology that'll essentially save their sorry butts and DNA/RNA within from getting TBI to death or from just being summarily roasted. Of course the good side to all of this is that folks should eventually have nearly the entire surface of Earth to habitat upon, instead of the 15% or less of what we're stuck with. By way of our going towards the sun, of getting humanity safely situated upon Venus could become our salvation, especially if it turns out that we don't actually have those thousands of transition years upon Earth to work with. At least upon Venus the solar radiation that reaches that surface isn't going to be nearly as bad off as upon Earth. If we utilized a few of their local rigid airships for continually migrating ourselves into the nighttime season of Venus is obviously that much better off. Fortunately, once having been situated upon Venus there's no shortage of green/renewable energy that's squeaky clean and as I said, it's virtually unlimited. As for toughing it out upon Earth, with the exception of our having to avoid the SAA that's down to the deck as covering 100e6 km2, and at times sharing a TBI average of 100 mr/m2/day; Since our rotation is way too quick as for keeping yourself within nighttime, by day we can always stay inside of sufficiently shielded structures or go underground, whereas there's perhaps 5% of this globe that can be revised as viable for accommodating large numbers of folks (perhaps at best 10% of humanity) as situated safely underground and, as long as our oceans of what has become mostly O2-starved and thus jellyfish plugged worth of dead zones (jellyfish remaining a viable form of life but otherwise not another diatom in sight) haven't boiled off, there's always submarine life to behold. ~ Life upon Venus, Township w/Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm War is war, thus "in war there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason of having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing by whatever rules, such as GW Bush. |
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I'd rather take my chances on Venus. At least the radiation shouldn't
get through and the good news is that whatever disinformation-R-us crapolla shouldn't last all that long before it's all boiled down to a perfectly harmless powder. Leaving those fools upon Earth to hide under the biggest rock they can find, right next to all of those hidden WMD and Osama bin Laden. ~ Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm War is war, thus "in war there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason of having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing by whatever rules, such as GW Bush. |
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