Michoud/Katrina

The maps on the various websites are not too accurate, but it appears
the Michoud facility may have been under the path of the eye. (The
worst place to be.)

Just having the hurricane past does not end the danger - there's a lot
of water that's going to drain past the city in the next few days.

D.
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Derek Lyons wrote:
The maps on the various websites are not too accurate, but it appears
the Michoud facility may have been under the path of the eye. (The
worst place to be.)

Just having the hurricane past does not end the danger - there's a lot
of water that's going to drain past the city in the next few days.

The roof has partially peeled off of the
Superdome, and the Superdome was probably
a dozen miles futher from the eye than
Michoud. Meanwhile, downtown New Orleans
looked to be slowly filling with water by
late morning. Hip deep in some places,
knee deep in others.

- Ed Kyle

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:34:27 -0500, ed kyle wrote
(in article . com):

Meanwhile, downtown New Orleans
looked to be slowly filling with water by
late morning. Hip deep in some places,
knee deep in others.

Latest reports put it at 6'-plus in eastern areas where pumps have
failed.

Off-topic for Michoud, but no less important for economic impact and
the people who live there (we have friends there), are reports that
Mobile Bay has surged past levees. The water is VERY deep in parts of
the downtown.

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"ed kyle" wrote:

Derek Lyons wrote:
The maps on the various websites are not too accurate, but it appears
the Michoud facility may have been under the path of the eye. (The
worst place to be.)

Just having the hurricane past does not end the danger - there's a lot
of water that's going to drain past the city in the next few days.

The roof has partially peeled off of the Superdome, and the Superdome was
probably a dozen miles futher from the eye than Michoud.

The news reports are extremely misleading on the conditions of the
roof - the structure is mostly intact (altho leaking), what's been
torn off if the equivalent of shingles. The white membrane is gone,
but the structural concrete dome underneath is intact - the water
making its way inside seems to be coming in via joints in the
structure. (Like the roof of a typical stick built house - the
sheathing is never meant to be exposed to the weather.)

Meanwhile, downtown New Orleans looked to be slowly filling with water by
late morning. Hip deep in some places, knee deep in others.

Earlier it was reported that some pumps had failed - but those reports
have not been repeated. The good news is that the storm surge was
much less than forecast.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

Derek Lyons wrote:
"ed kyle" wrote:

Derek Lyons wrote:
The maps on the various websites are not too accurate, but it appears
the Michoud facility may have been under the path of the eye. (The
worst place to be.)

Just having the hurricane past does not end the danger - there's a lot
of water that's going to drain past the city in the next few days.

The roof has partially peeled off of the Superdome, and the Superdome was
probably a dozen miles futher from the eye than Michoud.

The news reports are extremely misleading on the conditions of the
roof - the structure is mostly intact (altho leaking), what's been
torn off if the equivalent of shingles. The white membrane is gone,
but the structural concrete dome underneath is intact - the water
making its way inside seems to be coming in via joints in the
structure. (Like the roof of a typical stick built house - the
sheathing is never meant to be exposed to the weather.)

There are at least two holes completely through the roof
though.

Meanwhile, downtown New Orleans looked to be slowly filling with water by
late morning. Hip deep in some places, knee deep in others.

Earlier it was reported that some pumps had failed - but those reports
have not been repeated. The good news is that the storm surge was
much less than forecast.

A levee was reported to have failed somewhere on the
east side of New Orleans, flooding a couple of
neighborhoods one-story-deep.

Here are some good "inside" thoughts about
Michoud and the hurricane.

"http://www.marsblog.net/archives/001601.html"

I'm not sure, but I'm wondering, since Katrina
seems to have really slammed into Gulfport and
southern Mississippi, if Stennis, where the big
engine test stands are and where RS-68 engines
are assembled, may have been in the bullseye of
this storm.

- Ed Kyle

"ed kyle" wrote:

The roof has partially peeled off of the Superdome, and the Superdome was
probably a dozen miles futher from the eye than Michoud.

The news reports are extremely misleading on the conditions of the
roof - the structure is mostly intact (altho leaking), what's been
torn off if the equivalent of shingles. The white membrane is gone,
but the structural concrete dome underneath is intact - the water
making its way inside seems to be coming in via joints in the
structure. (Like the roof of a typical stick built house - the
sheathing is never meant to be exposed to the weather.)

There are at least two holes completely through the roof
though.

Again, this appears to be exaggeration on the part of the media - the
holes (according to reports) are where ventilators were torn away, not
damage to the structural concrete.

Speaking of idiocy - CNN is right now showing a video of an idiot who
drove right into flood waters. He claims he didn't know how deep it
way - despite an overpass a few tens of yards further down the road
being clearly visible as being flooded to just below the level of the
signs attached to the overpass.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

Space.com says that Michoud has suffered some
roof damage, but the severity of the damage is
not yet known.

"http://www.space.com/news/050829_katrina_michoud_updt.html"

The good news is that the buildings are still there,
and they're not under water.

- Ed Kyle

"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
...
"ed kyle" wrote:

Derek Lyons wrote:
The maps on the various websites are not too accurate, but it appears
the Michoud facility may have been under the path of the eye. (The
worst place to be.)

Just having the hurricane past does not end the danger - there's a lot
of water that's going to drain past the city in the next few days.

The roof has partially peeled off of the Superdome, and the Superdome was
probably a dozen miles futher from the eye than Michoud.

The news reports are extremely misleading on the conditions of the
roof - the structure is mostly intact (altho leaking), what's been
torn off if the equivalent of shingles. The white membrane is gone,
but the structural concrete dome underneath is intact - the water
making its way inside seems to be coming in via joints in the
structure. (Like the roof of a typical stick built house - the
sheathing is never meant to be exposed to the weather.)

Meanwhile, downtown New Orleans looked to be slowly filling with water by
late morning. Hip deep in some places, knee deep in others.

Earlier it was reported that some pumps had failed - but those reports
have not been repeated. The good news is that the storm surge was
much less than forecast.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

According to officials at Tulane Medical Center, there is a two-block
breach in the levee that holds back Lake Pontchartrain. The breach is
sending lake water down Canal Street. Water is reported to be rising at a
rate of 1 inch every five minutes.

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