Ancient aircraft

...the Nazis developed the first practical
pulse-jet engines for their V-8 rocket
"buzz bombs."

The 'buzz bomb' was designated V-1, not V-8 (V for 'vengeance' weapon).
It was the first operational cruise missile, powered by a
gasoline-burning pulse jet, not a rocket. Their liquid fueled V-2 rocket
was developed later. oc

Actually, it was Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS,
not Hitler, that were interested in ancient India
an Tibet. Himmler ran the 'Anenerbe' an outfit that
did occult archeology. (And were the model for the
bad guys in the "Indiana Jones" movies.)

According to ancient Brahman and Hindu texts Vimanas
made trips to the moon. It is interesting to compare
NASA's Apollo moon trip myth with Brahmanism's Vimana
moon trip myth. The claims are nearly identical, (My
Hindu friend even claims that certain Hindu temples
even claim to have moon rocks.), but neither NASA nor
Hindus can make a return trip today. Fantasies never
get you anywhere.

For more on Vimanas:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/vs/index.htm

Warhol wrote:
Ancient aircraft

"These sources are now lost. Vimanas were kept in a Vimana Griha, a kind of
hanger, and were sometimes said to be propelled by a yellowish-white liquid,
and sometimes by some sort of mercury compound, though writers seem confused
in this matter. It is most likely that the later writers on Vimanas, wrote
as observers and from earlier texts, and were understandably confused on the
principle of their propulsion. The "yellowish- white liquid" sounds
suspiciously like gasoline

Nope, not here in Canada. ... Our gasoline is suspiciously red in
color.

http://www.crystalinks.com/vedic.html

The crystalinks appears to have cracked



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Roger Coppock wrote:
Actually, it was Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS,
not Hitler, that were interested in ancient India
an Tibet. Himmler ran the 'Anenerbe' an outfit that
did occult archeology. (And were the model for the
bad guys in the "Indiana Jones" movies.)

According to ancient Brahman and Hindu texts Vimanas
made trips to the moon. It is interesting to compare
NASA's Apollo moon trip myth with Brahmanism's Vimana
moon trip myth. The claims are nearly identical, (My
Hindu friend even claims that certain Hindu temples
even claim to have moon rocks.), but neither NASA nor
Hindus can make a return trip today. Fantasies never
get you anywhere.

Perhaps fantasies never get you anywhere; nevertheless, the reality is
pretty much the same!

For more on Vimanas:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/vs/index.htm

For more on NASA's moon fantasy:
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/...n_apollo11.pdf

The first thing that grabs anyone who beholds this ancient stony
text is the first glyph's uncanny resemblance to a modern military
helicopter.

I am sorry, but I do not see any helicopter, nor any of those other
things.
What I see is what appears to be a depiction of a mummy coffin, with
the "tailfin" being the feet.

I suspect that your imagination is running wild. As long as
Egyptologists are not complaining that they cannot make head nor tails
of such texts and signs, there probably are no fish in the desert and
it will be a waste of effort trying to catch such.

Why are you calling me names? If you do not agree with the proper way a
discussion is conducted, you should not start a discussion. The purpose
of a discussion often is to establish whether one party is right or
wrong. So you should not enter a discussion if you are not prepared to
accept that your point of view may be wrong. You had an idea like
millions of other people also have ideas. It has been so ordained that
only so many of those ideas are right and that all the others are
wrong. Do you think that those who are wrong are justified in vilifying
the people who care sufficiently about them to try to save them from
their errors and to correct their mistake? Do you think that such
people are good people? Isn't it true that they act exactly like a
hurt, trapped wild animal that attacks the human who tries to save it
and heal it and set it free?
When someone calls another person names for whatever reason, he is not
only vilifying that person, but also the creator, and showing both all
other humans as well as the creator the evil that resides in his soul
and his commitment and devotion to Satan, who was the first vilifyer.
And vilifying someone in a language you suppose he does not understand
is not only sacrilegious, but also the behaviour of those who worship
Satan: cowardly.

nightbat wrote

Warhol wrote:

"Roger Coppock" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Actually, it was Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS,
not Hitler, that were interested in ancient India
an Tibet. Himmler ran the 'Anenerbe' an outfit that
did occult archeology. (And were the model for the
bad guys in the "Indiana Jones" movies.)

According to ancient Brahman and Hindu texts Vimanas
made trips to the moon. It is interesting to compare
NASA's Apollo moon trip myth with Brahmanism's Vimana
moon trip myth. The claims are nearly identical, (My
Hindu friend even claims that certain Hindu temples
even claim to have moon rocks.), but neither NASA nor
Hindus can make a return trip today. Fantasies never
get you anywhere.

For more on Vimanas:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/vs/index.htm


The Abydos temple helicopter
http://www.finart.be/UfocomHq/usabydos.htm

Ancient Astronauts
Flaming Shields, Chariots of the Gods
Flying Saucers, Spacesuits, Delta Wing Jets and Ray Guns
depicted on everything from cave walls to ancient Egyptian temples

The famous Helicopter Hieroglyph found in the Temple of Abydos, in Egypt, is
another prime example of highly advanced technology represented in ancient
art. At first glance, these ancient Egyptian heiroglyphs depict aerial
technology - namely (amazingly), a helicopter, a submarine, a UFO and a
airplane. The first thing that grabs anyone who beholds this ancient stony
text is the first glyph's uncanny resemblance to a modern military
helicopter like the Apache, Jayhawk and Blackhawk.

The glyph immediately to the right of the helicopter has been compared to a
tank, a submarine, a small boat or cabin cruiser - and even appears to some
as Luke Skywalker's landspeeder, from the first Star Wars movie. Directly
below that curiosity is what most consider indisputably to be a classic
UFO - but given the non-symmetrical shape and added tail fin, eyes are
widened to the possibility of an aircraft only slightly more advanced than
we have today (perhaps something still on the drawing boards, not yet given
to public knowledge, as of this writing). The profile is roundish, yet also
shows what are possibly wings, resembling a NASA prototype for proposed
space taxis, (expected to be in operation by the middle of the 21st
century) - or Commander Criton's shuttle pod, from Farscape, the popular
science fiction TV show. One almost expects, if such a craft ever existed,
that it was armed with phasers. The fourth icon, below the alleged UFO,
seems at once to be a World War II vintage airplane, complete with high tail
and bubble cockpit - albeit without wings, or perhaps what the artist was
depicting was partially submerged, in water or sand.

http://www.daniken.com/

nightbat

Well this much is true who can deny the reported UFO's all over
the world even by commercial and military pilots? Yes, the depicted
background ufo's on old oil paintings, Egyptian walls, tablets, and
scrolls. There is some indicating evidence of such including historical
Biblical reference of the one named Jesus of Nazareth being somehow
lifted up into the sky including the Virgin Mary. Of long ago and just
recent reported poaching Grey menacing abductions and now informal net
Darla Sean protective observing Race contact. And about ancient aircraft
well we know even the Vatican had fund helped Leonardo de Vinci
investigating and trying to work out referenced ancient artificial
flight models.

See:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...nardo-de-Vinci

Also:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Helicopter

And:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/1496

ponder on,
the nightbat

Some of that is true and some of that may be true and some of that is
not true.
Yet none of it should be discussed on an astronomy site. Astronomers do
not want to be associated with supposed aliens that are visiting our
planet, because their colleaugues and other scientists and other people
would assume they had lost their marbles and would ridicule them and
they would almost certainly lose their job. Astronomers are interested
in stars and planets and galaxies, not in aliens. Nearly all
astronomers are physicists, not exo-biologists. The only alien
phenomenon astronomers might conceivably want to be associated with is
a continuous and therefore reproducible radio signal from far away.
None has ever been found and none will ever be found, because any smart
alien does not want to be bothered by primitives.
Anyone who wants to discuss aliens, has a million times more chance of
finding a receptive ear among people who are not astronomers - for
example goldfish collectors - than among astronomers.

nightbat wrote

dirkbontes wrote:

Some of that is true and some of that may be true and some of that is
not true.
Yet none of it should be discussed on an astronomy site. Astronomers do
not want to be associated with supposed aliens that are visiting our
planet, because their colleaugues and other scientists and other people
would assume they had lost their marbles and would ridicule them and
they would almost certainly lose their job. Astronomers are interested
in stars and planets and galaxies, not in aliens. Nearly all
astronomers are physicists, not exo-biologists. The only alien
phenomenon astronomers might conceivably want to be associated with is
a continuous and therefore reproducible radio signal from far away.
None has ever been found and none will ever be found, because any smart
alien does not want to be bothered by primitives.
Anyone who wants to discuss aliens, has a million times more chance of
finding a receptive ear among people who are not astronomers - for
example goldfish collectors - than among astronomers.

nightbat

If a scientist or researcher conservatively thinks only inside
the box because of worrying about what his science colleagues or
laboratory boss might think he'll never be able to perceive outside the
box. De-Vinci thought about the box and everything around it without
regard or care where his research might lead or indicate. And you say
that the most in-box thinking mainstream astronomers might only permit
to be associated with is a continuous and/or reproducible radio signal
from distant space, news, distant pulsars and planets regularly do that.
However, we now have received net intelligent informal contact from
reported Sean Space Race. And since as you say mainstreamer astronomers
purportedly were closed boxed looking for only possible fixed stray
signal, the nightbat and Earth Science Team Officers were open to
intelligent advanced net contact not just hopeful peeps.


ponder on,
the nightbat

Radio signals from pulsars and planets and stars are not alien
phenomena. This was a thread about aliens, not so?

Da Vinci was not a normal scientist. A normal scientist during his
whole life has at most one truly original idea - if he is lucky. If a
normal scientist is a genius, he may have as much as ten truly original
ideas during his whole life. Da Vinci was not a normal scientist, but a
supergenius, who - like me - is able to produce truly original science
any moment of the day. As far as I can determine there have been only
three other persons like him and me in all history - at least I have
not found any others.
I have made many discoveries in sciences other than astronomy, but I am
not posting about them here. Neither, I assure you, would da Vinci have
posted his medical discoveries or his other non-astronomical
discoveries on an astronomy site. I have not even posted my
astronomical discoveries on astronomy sites, merely invited people to
read a lengthy review of my book. (None did, of course. Sigh...)

If you have contact with alien life, then tell the border customs
officers and the Department of Foreign Affairs about them, whose
business it is, not astronomers, whose business it is not.