No Fix for Window Blanket?

If there was a fix for getting Apollo 13 back from the moon--what's with
*this* no-count, wet-behind-the-ears generation of NASA being so totally out
of the Right Stuff as to do things right?

It's like a bunch of dizzy boom-box bopping teenagers rodding around in
Daddy's Car and knowing not even so much as how to check the oil, let alone
adjust a carburetor.
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E. McSquared wrote:
If there was a fix for getting Apollo 13 back from the moon--what's with
*this* no-count, wet-behind-the-ears generation of NASA being so totally out
of the Right Stuff as to do things right?

It's like a bunch of dizzy boom-box bopping teenagers rodding around in
Daddy's Car and knowing not even so much as how to check the oil, let alone
adjust a carburetor.

Some things it's simply impossible, impractical, or counterproductive to
attempt a fix.
It's quite possible that if the explosion on A13 had happened slightly
differently, due to random factors (way round the heater was installed,
what order the bolts were tightened on the tanks, ...), that everyone
aboard A13 would have been dead by the time they got back to earth.

If attempting a fix, for something that does not seem to be a serious issue
turns it into a catastrophic problem, then you're going to look really stupid.

Now this is significant..

"The shortsighted squeal, they always squeal except when they are being
diddled or hypnotized." --Ezra Pound

Did EP write this before or after Orwell's 1984? And you realize (I
hope) that Ezra was a fascist?

Thanks,

Rick



E. McSquared wrote:
If there was a fix for getting Apollo 13 back from the moon--what's with
*this* no-count, wet-behind-the-ears generation of NASA being so totally out
of the Right Stuff as to do things right?

It's like a bunch of dizzy boom-box bopping teenagers rodding around in
Daddy's Car and knowing not even so much as how to check the oil, let alone
adjust a carburetor.

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message
...

Some things it's simply impossible, impractical, or counterproductive to
attempt a fix.

As the NASA team of Apollo 13 proved, damned near *nothing* is "impossible"
or too "impractical, or counterproductive to attempt a fix" when the value
of the human lives at stake is totally understood.

This argument which follows, of baseless speculation from what did not
happen on Apollo 13 is even more useless than the impractical and
counterproductive "School-Teacher in Space" mentality presently attempting
to pass itself off as a "space program" at NASA, which were it not so sad,
would be laughable.

It's quite possible that if the explosion on A13 had happened slightly
differently, due to random factors (way round the heater was installed,
what order the bolts were tightened on the tanks, ...), that everyone
aboard A13 would have been dead by the time they got back to earth.

Yet another "if" . . .


If attempting a fix, for something that does not seem to be a serious
issue . . .

Does not "seem"? What kind of science is that? I'll tell ya: it's no kind
of science at all, it's purely a speculative mathematics of statistical
analysis, of overgrown children sitting around safe and sound on the ground
calculating the odds of disaster on their pocket calculators . . .

From today's NY Times: "Analysis suggested that the possibility a chunk of
blanket might hit some other piece of the shuttle was 11/2 in 100, Mr. Hale
said, but many uncertainties remain."

turns it into a catastrophic problem . . .

What "catastrophic problem"? If they were to try a fix on that blanket and
fail, both the Russians and Atlantis wait on the pad for the rescue. The
provisions are in place for doing it right this time, for facing the risk
squarely and acting responsibly in terms of it. But no, they take the easy,
risky way 'out'. Just like a bunch of immature kids in Daddy's car, rodding
around street corners at 60, kids who need their "School Teacher in Space."
This is the same irresponsible, slack attitude that doomed the former
mission.

then you're going to look really stupid.

And right there you've nailed it down to exactly what's wrong with NASA and
the entire generation from which it draws its "manpower": your concern is
over a bunch of stinking appearances! How things will "look"? How things may
"seem"?

Not the Right Stuff.

Totally not the right stuff.

Not the stuff that put men on the moon and brought the universe to our
doorstep with Hubble.

This is the NASA that plays childish little kid games in near space and
trashes Hubble instead of fixing it; the NASA that could no sooner put a man
on the moon, than build some stupid balloon big enough to bounce them to a
landing on it.
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"Rick Nelson" wrote in message
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Now this is significant..

"The shortsighted squeal, they always squeal except when they are being
diddled or hypnotized." --Ezra Pound

Did EP write this before or after Orwell's 1984? And you realize (I hope)
that Ezra was a fascist?

Thanks,

Rick

Who was Werner von Braun?
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Well,

I appreciate your prescience here on SSS..

WVB: A man who made NASA a militaristic and nationalistic event that
eventually lost the interest of the American people? (Because it became
irrelavent both militaristically and nationalistically?)

And now we have a MORON itchy to be dictator fool hole of a p3nis braned
asshoe.. missioning US 2 MARs.. Hmm.. isn't Mars the GOD OF WAR?

And so it goes..

Thanks,

Rick



Why did Kennedy make that speech?



E. McSquared wrote:
"Rick Nelson" wrote in message
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Now this is significant..

"The shortsighted squeal, they always squeal except when they are being
diddled or hypnotized." --Ezra Pound

Did EP write this before or after Orwell's 1984? And you realize (I hope)
that Ezra was a fascist?

Thanks,

Rick


Who was Werner von Braun?

"E. McSquared" wrote in message
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If there was a fix for getting Apollo 13 back from the moon--what's with
*this* no-count, wet-behind-the-ears generation of NASA being so totally
out of the Right Stuff as to do things right?

It's like a bunch of dizzy boom-box bopping teenagers rodding around in
Daddy's Car and knowing not even so much as how to check the oil, let
alone adjust a carburetor.

You're holding an apple in one hand and an orange in the other.
Discuss.

E. McSquared schrieb:
If there was a fix for getting Apollo 13 back from the moon--what's with
*this* no-count, wet-behind-the-ears generation of NASA being so totally out
of the Right Stuff as to do things right?

It's like a bunch of dizzy boom-box bopping teenagers rodding around in
Daddy's Car and knowing not even so much as how to check the oil, let alone
adjust a carburetor.

I'm sure they did not get Apollo13 back because they focussed on unneccessary
repairs...


- Carsten

"E. McSquared" wrote in message
om...

"Rick Nelson" wrote in message
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Now this is significant..

"The shortsighted squeal, they always squeal except when they are being
diddled or hypnotized." --Ezra Pound

Did EP write this before or after Orwell's 1984? And you realize (I
hope)
that Ezra was a fascist?

Thanks,

Rick

Who was Werner von Braun?

plonk

"Dr. P. Quackenbush" wrote in message
nk.net...

"E. McSquared" wrote in message
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Who was Werner von Braun?

plonk

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