Shuttle tiles and gap fillers

Hi, excuse me but does anyone know what are the shuttle's tiles are held on
with? Glue ?

And what about the ceramic-loaded gap fillers, are they stuck in with
anything? Whatever is supposed to keep them in place (in an environment of
terrific temperature fluctuations and vibration) sure failed here - if they
can be just plucked out with tweezers...

Skycloud wrote:

And what about the ceramic-loaded gap fillers, are they stuck in with
anything? Whatever is supposed to keep them in place (in an
environment of terrific temperature fluctuations and vibration) sure
failed here - if they can be just plucked out with tweezers...

I'm just imagining what a terrorist could do with a pair of
nail-clippers. Good job the TSA were onto that already.

FoFP

"Skycloud" wrote in message
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Hi, excuse me but does anyone know what are the shuttle's tiles are held
on
with? Glue ?

And what about the ceramic-loaded gap fillers, are they stuck in with
anything? Whatever is supposed to keep them in place (in an environment
of
terrific temperature fluctuations and vibration) sure failed here - if
they
can be just plucked out with tweezers...




Perhaps they are in need of someone like Richard Feynman to
elegantly cut through the crap. His simple demonstration at a press
conference was incredible in its simplicity.

http://www.scienceandsociety.ucsd.ed...ger/challenger.
htm

Public belief that this was a reprehensible decision - in effect, a
bureaucracy's suppression of science in its own interests - focused on an
"experiment" carried out before the Commission and the world's press by
renowned Caltech physicist Richard Feynman (right). Feynman took a piece
of O-ring rubber, dunked it in iced water, and showed that when cold it was
slow to return to its original shape. Here, surely, was elementary proof
that cold affected the seals. How could NASA have been so negligent as to
have missed such a simple truth?

"Skycloud" wrote in message
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Hi, excuse me but does anyone know what are the shuttle's tiles are held
on
with? Glue ?

And what about the ceramic-loaded gap fillers, are they stuck in with
anything? Whatever is supposed to keep them in place (in an environment
of
terrific temperature fluctuations and vibration) sure failed here - if
they
can be just plucked out with tweezers...




The tiles are glued in place, although its a little more advanced than the
stuff used on Blue Peter (I think!) Those filler pieces look as if they
should be glued in as well. I noted on the shots today it had some sort of
red coloured substance over part of it. Presumably some sort of adhesive.

Poor old shuttle. It's a bit like an old faithful dog yhat farts and pee's
everywhere but you just can't bring yourself to shoot it in the head. Come
on NASA do the decent thing.

Martin

On 2005-08-03 19:35:14 +0100, "Martin" said:


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Hi, excuse me but does anyone know what are the shuttle's tiles are held on
with? Glue ?

And what about the ceramic-loaded gap fillers, are they stuck in with
anything? Whatever is supposed to keep them in place (in an environment of
terrific temperature fluctuations and vibration) sure failed here - if they
can be just plucked out with tweezers...




The tiles are glued in place, although its a little more advanced than
the stuff used on Blue Peter (I think!) Those filler pieces look as if
they should be glued in as well. I noted on the shots today it had some
sort of red coloured substance over part of it. Presumably some sort of
adhesive.

Poor old shuttle. It's a bit like an old faithful dog yhat farts and
pee's everywhere but you just can't bring yourself to shoot it in the
head. Come on NASA do the decent thing.

Martin

Looked suspiciously like evo-stick.

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On 2005-08-03 19:35:14 +0100, "Martin" said:
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Looked suspiciously like evo-stick.

Ah I'm relieved... No problem with getting high on the vapours in Space
either. And at least it's a jump up on Gloy ...

:-)

Steve

"Martin" wrote:

Poor old shuttle. It's a bit like an old faithful dog yhat farts and pee's
everywhere but you just can't bring yourself to shoot it in the head. Come
on NASA do the decent thing.

I disagree. The orbiters have had several rounds of upgrades, benefitting
from the very latest in aerospace research, so whilst they have the same
old 1981 exterior look, the internals are very different. You shouldn't write
off the whole Shuttle system just because of the persistent shedding foam
problem; it will be solved, eventually.

On 2005-08-05 21:03:06 +0100, "Tim Nurde" said:


"Martin" wrote:

Poor old shuttle. It's a bit like an old faithful dog yhat farts and pee's
everywhere but you just can't bring yourself to shoot it in the head. Come
on NASA do the decent thing.

I disagree. The orbiters have had several rounds of upgrades, benefitting
from the very latest in aerospace research, so whilst they have the same
old 1981 exterior look, the internals are very different. You shouldn't write
off the whole Shuttle system just because of the persistent shedding foam
problem; it will be solved, eventually.

And what do we have to replace them with? Nothing at the minute.

"Tim Nurde" wrote in message
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"Martin" wrote:

Poor old shuttle. It's a bit like an old faithful dog yhat farts and
pee's
everywhere but you just can't bring yourself to shoot it in the head.
Come
on NASA do the decent thing.

I disagree. The orbiters have had several rounds of upgrades, benefitting
from the very latest in aerospace research, so whilst they have the same
old 1981 exterior look, the internals are very different. You shouldn't
write
off the whole Shuttle system just because of the persistent shedding foam
problem; it will be solved, eventually.





The electronics are the easy part. The problem with the shuttle is in the
inherent design flaws, such as the thermal tile system (easily damaged), the
dodgy solid rockets and the foam shedding. They've already spent billions on
trying to sort it out. How much more do you suggest they spend?

The only reason to keep the shuttle is to complete the ISS, which no one
appears to have any real interest in. The money they are wasting on the ISS
and shuttle fleet could be better spent on other projects.

Martin

"Martin" wrote in message
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The only reason to keep the shuttle is to complete the ISS, which no
one appears to have any real interest in. The money they are wasting
on the ISS and shuttle fleet could be better spent on other projects.

Hey, don't forget the forthcoming Hubble servicing mission. That's the
only reason I hope the shuttle continues, at least for a while.