KSC or Cape Canaveral ?

Both the BBC and CBC used "Cape Canaveral" as the location of the shuttle launch.

I was under the impression that Cape Canaveral is a different facility and
that the shuttle is launched from Kennedy Space Center. Is this accurate ?

Or has NASA made a PR decision to start using "Cape Canaveral" ?

(As a side note, it is funny to hear media talk about "the future of the
shuttle rides on this flight" since the shuttle has no future and only a
couple years left.

In article 1122433894.bc96b2f8d3ff7cc8db0827365a704526@teran ews, John
Doe wrote:
Both the BBC and CBC used "Cape Canaveral" as the location of the
shuttle launch.

I was under the impression that Cape Canaveral is a different facility
and that the shuttle is launched from Kennedy Space Center. Is this
accurate ?

Yes.

Cape Canaveral Air Force Station (CCAFS) is the Air Force side which
operates 6 launch pads for the Air Force rockets (Delta, Atlas, Titan,
Athena).

The KSC side operates two launch pads for the Shuttle.

Collectively, the area may sometimes be called 'Cape Canaveral
Spaceport' to refer to both sides.

There *are* a few KSC facilities on the CCAFS side, but most of them are
on the KSC side, as I understand it.

It's probably more common to refer to either CCAFS or KSC, rather than
lumping everything together under the 'Cape Canaveral' name.

I've seen some journalists use 'Cape Canaveral' for filing their bylines
for a very long time now, so there's historical precedent, even if it's
technically a mistake.

Or has NASA made a PR decision to start using "Cape Canaveral" ?

Not that I've seen.

-Dan

John Doe wrote:

Both the BBC and CBC used "Cape Canaveral" as the location of the shuttle launch.

I was under the impression that Cape Canaveral is a different facility and
that the shuttle is launched from Kennedy Space Center. Is this accurate ?

Or has NASA made a PR decision to start using "Cape Canaveral" ?

After the name change, the NASA facility became known as "Kennedy Space Center." The
adjacent Air Force station is Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. Since Kennedy Space
Center is physically located on Cape Canaveral, it's not improper to say that Cape
Canaveral (or Brevard County or Florida) is the location of the shuttle launch.




(As a side note, it is funny to hear media talk about "the future of the
shuttle rides on this flight" since the shuttle has no future and only a
couple years left.

Well there's truth to that statement. If there were to be a major problem with
Discovery's flight, it would put any further flights in severe jeopardy, which would
also hamper plans for the next generation after ISS is substantially completed. The
space shuttle has a future, although we are rapidly approaching the end of it, or
hopefully the beginning of three nice museum exhibits.

Cape Canaveral Air Force Station (CCAFS) is the Air Force side which
operates 6 launch pads for the Air Force rockets (Delta, Atlas, Titan,
Athena).

The KSC side operates two launch pads for the Shuttle.

Collectively, the area may sometimes be called 'Cape Canaveral
Spaceport' to refer to both sides.


Seems to me that for a time, the whole area was called Cape Kennedy but
after a few years the old name was put back. When the word "Cape" is used,
what follows is the original name.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:11:41 -0400, John Doe wrote:

Both the BBC and CBC used "Cape Canaveral" as the location of the shuttle launch.

I was under the impression that Cape Canaveral is a different facility and
that the shuttle is launched from Kennedy Space Center. Is this accurate ?

There is no facility called "Cape Canaveral". There are Cape Canaveral
Air Force Station, which is physically on the land mass known since
the 16th Century as Cape Canaveral, and John F. Kennedy Space Center
located on adjacent Merritt Island and an area on the northern reaches
of Cape Canaveral called the False Cape.

Note that the U.S. National Park Service also operates a large tract
of land called Canaveral National Seashore which stretches far to the
north of Cape Canaveral and the False Cape.

So the distinction of where the land feature known as Cape Canaveral
ends is very fuzzy.

Or has NASA made a PR decision to start using "Cape Canaveral" ?

No, NASA uses "Kennedy Space Center" for Shuttle launches.

Brian

Wrong!

Kennedy Space Center is physically located on Merritt Island.

...Since Kennedy Space Center is physically located on Cape Canaveral,
it's not improper to say that Cape
Canaveral (or Brevard County or Florida) is the location of the shuttle
launch.

Merritt Island:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=merrit...0135&t=h&hl=en



"John" wrote in message ...
John Doe wrote:

Both the BBC and CBC used "Cape Canaveral" as the location of the shuttle
launch.

I was under the impression that Cape Canaveral is a different facility
and
that the shuttle is launched from Kennedy Space Center. Is this accurate
?

Or has NASA made a PR decision to start using "Cape Canaveral" ?

After the name change, the NASA facility became known as "Kennedy Space
Center." The
adjacent Air Force station is Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. Since
Kennedy Space
Center is physically located on Cape Canaveral, it's not improper to say
that Cape
Canaveral (or Brevard County or Florida) is the location of the shuttle
launch.




(As a side note, it is funny to hear media talk about "the future of the
shuttle rides on this flight" since the shuttle has no future and only a
couple years left.

Well there's truth to that statement. If there were to be a major problem
with
Discovery's flight, it would put any further flights in severe jeopardy,
which would
also hamper plans for the next generation after ISS is substantially
completed. The
space shuttle has a future, although we are rapidly approaching the end of
it, or
hopefully the beginning of three nice museum exhibits.

MattBrat wrote:
Wrong!

Kennedy Space Center is physically located on Merritt Island.


...Since Kennedy Space Center is physically located on Cape Canaveral,
it's not improper to say that Cape
Canaveral (or Brevard County or Florida) is the location of the shuttle
launch.



IIRC and I wouldn't bet real money on it, after JFK's death there was a
huge knee jerk thing to re-name Cape Canaveral to Cape Kennedy and they
did. A few years later it was realized that what had happened changed
one of the oldest, if not *the* oldest map references on the American
mainland. It was sort of a grass roots thing that got it changed back,
the actual point is now back to Cape Canaveral, Cabo Canaveral as it was
written to designate a point with tall grass, or sugarcane by whoever it
was.(?) Kennedy Space Center is on Merrit Island and while Cape
Canaveral Air Force station, or the Air Force Eastern Missile test Range
owns the whole coast from the port to Playalinda, NASA uses damn near
everything north of the point and then there is the wildlife refuge! It
sorta boils down to this, the gubmint owns it all. Call it the Cape,
KSC, or Merritt Island National Wildlife refuge, or whatever, it's
pretty much all the same place....

T3

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 02:14:47 -0400, "John Gilmer"
wrote:




Cape Canaveral Air Force Station (CCAFS) is the Air Force side which
operates 6 launch pads for the Air Force rockets (Delta, Atlas, Titan,
Athena).

The KSC side operates two launch pads for the Shuttle.

Collectively, the area may sometimes be called 'Cape Canaveral
Spaceport' to refer to both sides.


Seems to me that for a time, the whole area was called Cape Kennedy but
after a few years the old name was put back. When the word "Cape" is used,
what follows is the original name.


Quite right.

The change from Cape Canaveral to Cape Kennedy was due to President
Lyndon B. Johnson, and announced on November 28, 1963.

Ten years later, the Florida Legislature passed a Florida Statute
requiring that Cape Kennedy be renamed Cape Canaveral on all State of Florida
official documents and maps. Florida Governor Rueben Askew signed it on May
18, 1973.

Changes at the national level followed later. Full details he

http://www.spaceline.org/capehistory/3a.html