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Old July 13th 05, 01:17 AM
Pat Flannery
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So a window cover came off and damaged tiles on the OMS pod- that's no
reason to scrub the launch, is it?:
http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts114/050712omspod/

Pat
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Old July 13th 05, 01:19 AM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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So a window cover came off and damaged tiles on the OMS pod- that's no
reason to scrub the launch, is it?:


Not if you put enough duct tape on it.


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Old July 13th 05, 02:12 AM
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"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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So a window cover came off and damaged tiles on the OMS pod- that's no
reason to scrub the launch, is it?:


Not if you put enough duct tape on it.



The freakin' window cover was apparently held on with tape to start with.




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Old July 13th 05, 03:28 AM
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Scott Hedrick wrote:
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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So a window cover came off and damaged tiles on the OMS pod- that's no
reason to scrub the launch, is it?:


Not if you put enough duct tape on it.


NASA just doesn't use your garden variety 100 MPH duct tape. They
use special government issue ( very expensive ) 17,000 MPH duct tape.

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Old July 13th 05, 09:06 AM
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Hi all


"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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So a window cover came off and damaged tiles on the OMS pod- that's no
reason to scrub the launch, is it?:
http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts114/050712omspod/

Pat


Seriously (I assume Pat's question WAS serious) if THIS ISN'T reason to
delay/scrub/completely abandon the launch WHAT IS?

Is it institutional or organizational (or national) pride riding on this
launch that makes it so important that obvious pre-flight problems like
this are not going to make people back down?

Is preasure from above (i.e. higher up the chain of demand ... er sorry ...
command in government)?

Is the crew happy with the latest news? Are they allowed a call on whether
or not the vehicle they've got to risk thier lives in is launch/space
worthy?

If Safety is paramount fix the vehicle before launch.

If there are other priorities on the schedule the
public/world-at-large/whoever-cares deserves to know who is pushing so hard
for this launch.

I've lived through two shuttle accidents already. I would prefer not to see
a third just because someone ignored the obvious problems.

Of cause a scrub now will probably kill/seriously damage the current program
and render a whole lot of voters jobless or otherwise less well off.

Regards
Frank Scrooby
Concerned....


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Old July 13th 05, 11:39 AM
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0200, "Frank Scrooby" wrote:

If Safety is paramount fix the vehicle before launch.


They did fix it (assuming you're just talking about the damage from
the falling window cover). Took about an hour, apparently. On what
grounds would you scrub the launch? That this was some sort of "ill
omen" or something?

The sun has just come up in Florida. I've been sitting here looking at
Discovery on NASA TV. It's strange- I guess that knowing STS's days
are numbered makes it look different. She looks kinda old and obsolete
now. Wasn't like that before.

Oh well, I just bought a "new" car. A 1952 Morris Minor. Great car. I don't mind
"old and obsolete" so much, I guess. Then again, I'm not planning on taking it
into LEO anytime soon, at least until I find one of the old superchargers for it

Dale
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Old July 13th 05, 05:26 PM
Pat Flannery
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Dale wrote:


They did fix it (assuming you're just talking about the damage from
the falling window cover). Took about an hour, apparently. On what
grounds would you scrub the launch? That this was some sort of "ill
omen" or something?


Well, it is the 13th...and now there is thunder and lightning....and
NASA just damaged a comet.
Quick, bring me the sacred hens! An augury is needed!

Pat
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Old July 13th 05, 06:19 PM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Well, it is the 13th...and now there is thunder and lightning....and NASA
just damaged a comet.
Quick, bring me the sacred hens! An augury is needed!


Got a gut feeling, Pat?


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Old July 13th 05, 08:15 PM
Pat Flannery
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Neil Gerace wrote:



Well, it is the 13th...and now there is thunder and lightning....and NASA
just damaged a comet.
Quick, bring me the sacred hens! An augury is needed!



Got a gut feeling, Pat?



Got a gut feeling that the fuel sensor is going to take quite a while to
fix- weeks? Months?

Pat
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Old July 13th 05, 04:30 PM
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"Frank Scrooby" ) writes:
Hi all

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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So a window cover came off and damaged tiles on the OMS pod- that's no
reason to scrub the launch, is it?:
http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts114/050712omspod/

Pat


Seriously (I assume Pat's question WAS serious) if THIS ISN'T reason to
delay/scrub/completely abandon the launch WHAT IS?


Something where the repair and certification therof, takes longer than
two hours...

(Snip conspriracy/handwringing )

If Safety is paramount fix the vehicle before launch.


Did you not bother to check CNN last night ? They DID fix the damaged part.

If there are other priorities on the schedule the public/
world-at-large/whoever-cares deserves to know who is pushing so hard
for this launch.


No proof offered of " pushing " ? Claim fails.

I've lived through two shuttle accidents already. I would prefer not to
see a third just because someone ignored the obvious problems.


No proof of " obviousness " offered ? Claim fails.

Of cause a scrub now will probably kill/seriously damage the current
program
and render a whole lot of voters jobless or otherwise less well off.


No proof of anything offered ? "Concern" fails.

Andre

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