An Iron Sun?

At a site referenced by the Solid Sun site, there is a paper by a
professor at the university of Missouri, making the case that the Sun
is largely composed of iron.

http://web.umr.edu/~om/AASWashington2002.pdf

If this were the case, then what of the hydrogen fusion?


Bill Sheppard wrote:

"And look at the stars, each an incandescing sink or
'vent' point of the hyperpressurized medium. Consider the sheer
enormity
of the pressure (if you can) that drives the flow into each and every
atomic nucleus. What powers the sun and stars? Nuclear fusion. What
powers the fusion? Gravity. What powers gravity? Metrics, equations and

'curvature'? Or the hyperpressurization of the spatial medium?"


What then if the flow of space into the Sun is the primary source for
its energy, not nuclear fusion? Oh fusion might be occuring, but if
the Sun is iron rich, then the major source of energy would have to be
something else.

As far as I know, the fusion process of combining four ordinary
hydrogen atoms together to form one helium atom, as is proposed in the
standard model of the Sun, has never been replicated on Earth.

Also, there is the nagging problem of the missing neutrinos. Oh, I
know, there is now a theory of neutrinos that explains this, but is is
really explaining it, or just explaining rhe problem away. How well
has this new theory been proven? Does it explain anything else other
than the one problem it was invented to explain?

And if the Sun is a second generation star, then why shouldn't it be
richest in elements other than hydrogen, just like the planets? If the
Sun was formed from supernova materials, then where would it get all
its hydrogen, since the stars that went supernova had supposedly
already used up most of their hydrogen?

Double-A

P.S. No textbook quotes please. Let's try to think outside the box!

Hi Double-A Hydrogen came out of the neutron decay. Neutron came out of
the big bang Big bang came out of aether energy compressed by gravity
until it reached its critical state and imploded. Aether energy resides
in all space. It is the intrinsic,and most dynamic part of the cosmos.
Gravity links all universes. It is their common denominator. It gives
them inertia. Bert

nightbat wrote

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Hi Double-A Hydrogen came out of the neutron decay. Neutron came out of
the big bang Big bang came out of aether energy compressed by gravity
until it reached its critical state and imploded. Aether energy resides
in all space. It is the intrinsic,and most dynamic part of the cosmos.
Gravity links all universes. It is their common denominator. It gives
them inertia. Bert

nightbat

Close but not good enough, there is only one observed Universe,
get over it Officer Bert. Have you checked out those discount cruise
ship sites. Emily is on her way, you want to stay Florida put but that
terror babe might have other plans for you. I need all the Earth Science
Officers I have and I don't want to take a chance losing any of them.
The sea air might do you and your wife real good. And you can Science
Officer web tv report all the high sea shenanigans going on around the
world.

Captain out,
the nightbat

nightbat wrote:
nightbat wrote

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Hi Double-A Hydrogen came out of the neutron decay. Neutron came out of
the big bang Big bang came out of aether energy compressed by gravity
until it reached its critical state and imploded. Aether energy resides
in all space. It is the intrinsic,and most dynamic part of the cosmos.
Gravity links all universes. It is their common denominator. It gives
them inertia. Bert

nightbat

Close but not good enough, there is only one observed Universe,
get over it Officer Bert. Have you checked out those discount cruise
ship sites. Emily is on her way, you want to stay Florida put but that
terror babe might have other plans for you. I need all the Earth Science
Officers I have and I don't want to take a chance losing any of them.
The sea air might do you and your wife real good. And you can Science
Officer web tv report all the high sea shenanigans going on around the
world.

Captain out,
the nightbat


They say that the last 30 years has been a period of abnormally low
hurricane activity in Florida. This has lulled newcomers into a false
sense of security.

But now, everthing's back to "normal", eh Bert?

Double-A

frootloop AKA G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Hi Double-A Hydrogen came out of the neutron decay. Neutron came out of
the big bang Big bang came out of aether energy compressed by gravity
until it reached its critical state and imploded. Aether energy resides
in all space. It is the intrinsic,and most dynamic part of the cosmos.
Gravity links all universes. It is their common denominator. It gives
them inertia. Bert

The kooks are flocking. Its a good thing most of them are in Florida.

Michael Baldwin Bruce wrote:

frootloop AKA G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Hi Double-A Hydrogen came out of the neutron decay. Neutron came out of
the big bang Big bang came out of aether energy compressed by gravity
until it reached its critical state and imploded. Aether energy resides
in all space. It is the intrinsic,and most dynamic part of the cosmos.
Gravity links all universes. It is their common denominator. It gives
them inertia. Bert

The kooks are flocking. Its a good thing most of them are in Florida.

It must be the gravitational inertia, Bruce.

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler

"It's less a process of "convertion" it's about the reality of matter and
energy (all 8 [!] kinds of matter) ... and yes, that's how "they do it".
We {aliens} call it phase-tuning or simply phase-ing.
And no, you will have to find it out all by yourself. And yes, we
{aliens} will make sure your technical advancement will no longer be
faster than your spiritual one ... we'd rather let you perish on this
planet. That's a promise, you monkey-fu*kers.
HTH.
C."
-- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne's award-winning alien technology

"That's what you expect from people who think that the
cyberworld isn't "RL"."
-- Dr. David Tholen, Psychic Astrologer

There are tons of iron lines in the Sun's spectrum. The Sun was made
from lots of material from older supernovae. It contains all the
elements from hydrogen to iron (the most stable element formed by
stellar fusion). All this professor says is correct, but, it's not
mostly iron (mostly hydrogen like all other stars).

Saul Levy


On 12 Jul 2005 04:15:24 -0700, "Double-A" wrote:

At a site referenced by the Solid Sun site, there is a paper by a
professor at the university of Missouri, making the case that the Sun
is largely composed of iron.

http://web.umr.edu/~om/AASWashington2002.pdf

If this were the case, then what of the hydrogen fusion?


Bill Sheppard wrote:

"And look at the stars, each an incandescing sink or
'vent' point of the hyperpressurized medium. Consider the sheer
enormity
of the pressure (if you can) that drives the flow into each and every
atomic nucleus. What powers the sun and stars? Nuclear fusion. What
powers the fusion? Gravity. What powers gravity? Metrics, equations and

'curvature'? Or the hyperpressurization of the spatial medium?"


What then if the flow of space into the Sun is the primary source for
its energy, not nuclear fusion? Oh fusion might be occuring, but if
the Sun is iron rich, then the major source of energy would have to be
something else.

As far as I know, the fusion process of combining four ordinary
hydrogen atoms together to form one helium atom, as is proposed in the
standard model of the Sun, has never been replicated on Earth.

Also, there is the nagging problem of the missing neutrinos. Oh, I
know, there is now a theory of neutrinos that explains this, but is is
really explaining it, or just explaining rhe problem away. How well
has this new theory been proven? Does it explain anything else other
than the one problem it was invented to explain?

And if the Sun is a second generation star, then why shouldn't it be
richest in elements other than hydrogen, just like the planets? If the
Sun was formed from supernova materials, then where would it get all
its hydrogen, since the stars that went supernova had supposedly
already used up most of their hydrogen?

Double-A

P.S. No textbook quotes please. Let's try to think outside the box!

Saul Levy wrote:
There are tons of iron lines in the Sun's spectrum. The Sun was made
from lots of material from older supernovae. It contains all the
elements from hydrogen to iron (the most stable element formed by
stellar fusion). All this professor says is correct, but, it's not
mostly iron (mostly hydrogen like all other stars).

Saul Levy



Not to argue the matter, but I am curious, when they say that the Sun
was formed from the remnants of older stars that went supernova, where
did it get all its hydrogen? I am presuming that the previous stars
must have fused most of their hydrogen into heavier elements before
they would go supernova.

Double-A

nightbat wrote

Double-A wrote:

Saul Levy wrote:
There are tons of iron lines in the Sun's spectrum. The Sun was made
from lots of material from older supernovae. It contains all the
elements from hydrogen to iron (the most stable element formed by
stellar fusion). All this professor says is correct, but, it's not
mostly iron (mostly hydrogen like all other stars).

Saul Levy


Not to argue the matter, but I am curious, when they say that the Sun
was formed from the remnants of older stars that went supernova, where
did it get all its hydrogen? I am presuming that the previous stars
must have fused most of their hydrogen into heavier elements before
they would go supernova.

Double-A

nightbat

You're finally catching on Officer Double-A, Einstein and Tesla
pondered that too but had no answers. The Sun like so many others is a
tag along to a nightbat explained altered matter " Black Comet ". Stars
in regular gravity zones need lots of hydrogen to form and burn where or
how do you think they get it?

The nightbat " Black Comet " coming to a friendly book store nearest
you.

ponder on,
the nightbat

nightbat wrote:

nightbat wrote

Double-A wrote:

Saul Levy wrote:
There are tons of iron lines in the Sun's spectrum. The Sun was made
from lots of material from older supernovae. It contains all the
elements from hydrogen to iron (the most stable element formed by
stellar fusion). All this professor says is correct, but, it's not
mostly iron (mostly hydrogen like all other stars).

Saul Levy


Not to argue the matter, but I am curious, when they say that the Sun
was formed from the remnants of older stars that went supernova, where
did it get all its hydrogen? I am presuming that the previous stars
must have fused most of their hydrogen into heavier elements before
they would go supernova.

Double-A

nightbat

You're finally catching on Officer Double-A, Einstein and Tesla
pondered that too but had no answers. The Sun like so many others is a
tag along to a nightbat explained altered matter " Black Comet ". Stars
in regular gravity zones need lots of hydrogen to form and burn where or
how do you think they get it?

The nightbat " Black Comet " coming to a friendly book store nearest
you.

ponder on,
the nightbat

Do you have a publisher yet? I hope you have a good technical editor
too.

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler

"It's less a process of "convertion" it's about the reality of matter and
energy (all 8 [!] kinds of matter) ... and yes, that's how "they do it".
We {aliens} call it phase-tuning or simply phase-ing.
And no, you will have to find it out all by yourself. And yes, we
{aliens} will make sure your technical advancement will no longer be
faster than your spiritual one ... we'd rather let you perish on this
planet. That's a promise, you monkey-fu*kers.
HTH.
C."
-- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne's award-winning alien technology

"That's what you expect from people who think that the
cyberworld isn't "RL"."
-- Dr. David Tholen, Psychic Astrologer