"President Must Answer to Downing Street Memo"

http://tinyurl.com/9ts2x

"America's credibility, its conscience and soul, stand at a crossroad.
George Bush should be thoroughly investigated by a congressional
committee or independent counsel. And, if these allegations hold true,
Bush should be impeached and then imprisoned for war crimes against
humanity."

While they're at it, committee and counsel should look deeper into the
Columbia tragedy, and at long last, open an independent Challenger
investigation.

Challenger's Ghost

wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/9ts2x

"America's credibility, its conscience and soul, stand at a crossroad.



Indeed. If Bush gives in to the bleating retards who want the US to
abandon the war, then not only will he doom his presidency, but also the
future of America.

"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.

Scott Lowther wrote:

wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/9ts2x

"America's credibility, its conscience and soul, stand at a crossroad.



Indeed. If Bush gives in to the bleating retards who want the US to
abandon the war, then not only will he doom his presidency, but also the
future of America.

"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.

But making the world a more dangerous place, especially
for US interests, isn't a crime? Perhaps it should be...

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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:04:58 -0500, Scott Lowther wrote
(in article ):

"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.

I regret that fooling with my killfile let me see a post by Lowther,
but . . .

Going to war under knowingly false pretenses, wasting 1,700+ soldiers'
lives and about $300 billion, doubling the domestic price of fuel and
strangling the economy due to energy prices and federal deficits should
easily qualify as "high crimes and misdemeanors" under any reasonable
definition.

Don't bother to reply, Lowther - I won't see it and I already hear your
Bush-apologist, war-mongering rhetoric clanging in my eardums. Denial
ain't just a river in Egypt, you know.

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Herb Schaltegger, GPG Key ID: BBF6FC1C
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759
http://www.individual-i.com/

Rand Simberg wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:35:12 -0500, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger made the
phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Going to war under knowingly false pretenses,

Why does this bizarre delusion persist, in the wake of all of the
investigations that show otherwise?

In your mind only, it apparently exists because you won't take the time
to listen to the 6.5 minute audio available he

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=6515

Among other things, McGovern states that, "Ye shall know the truth, and
the truth shall make you free," is chiseled into the stone of CIA
Headquarters.

Challenger's Ghost

" wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/9ts2x

"America's credibility, its conscience and soul, stand at a crossroad.
George Bush should be thoroughly investigated by a congressional
committee or independent counsel. And, if these allegations hold true,
Bush should be impeached and then imprisoned for war crimes against
humanity."

While they're at it, committee and counsel should look deeper into the
Columbia tragedy, and at long last, open an independent Challenger
investigation.

Challenger's Ghost

It figures that John Maxson is an ultra-lib. Usenet trolls usually are.

Rand Simberg wrote:
On 18 Jun 2005 09:36:00 -0700, in a place far, far away,
" made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Rand Simberg wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:35:12 -0500, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger made the
phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Going to war under knowingly false pretenses,

Why does this bizarre delusion persist, in the wake of all of the
investigations that show otherwise?

In your mind only, it apparently exists because you won't take the time
to listen to the 6.5 minute audio available he

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=6515

Among other things, McGovern states that, "Ye shall know the truth, and
the truth shall make you free," is chiseled into the stone of CIA
Headquarters.

McGovern is an anti-semitic nutcase, who thinks that the purpose of
the war was to allow Israel to take over the Middle East. I can see
why you like him.

We're all Americans, Rand, whether you like it or not. I'll not waste
time defending my archived posts against your baseless insinuation.

I have many more Jewish friends than Jewish enemies. Furthermore, I've
seen nothing to indicate that your labeling of McGovern is in any way
correct.

If you want logic, I suggest you stick to it. Provide a reference.

Challenger's Ghost

Rand Simberg wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...601570_pf.html

"The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former
intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in
Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration
'neocons' so 'the United States and Israel could dominate that part of
the world.' He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and
that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel
Sharon.

Compare McGovern's words alone with:

"... who thinks that the purpose of the war was to allow Israel to take
over the Middle East."

'Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,'
McGovern said. 'The last time I did this, the previous director of
Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic.' "

Gee, imagine that...

One *must* use imagination, to get from that to:

"McGovern is an anti-semitic nutcase, ..."

In my profession, we avoid extrapolation when better means are
available.

Challenger's Ghost

JazzMan wrote:

Scott Lowther wrote:


wrote:



http://tinyurl.com/9ts2x

"America's credibility, its conscience and soul, stand at a crossroad.




Indeed. If Bush gives in to the bleating retards who want the US to
abandon the war, then not only will he doom his presidency, but also the
future of America.

"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.



But making the world a more dangerous place, especially
for US interests, isn't a crime? Perhaps it should be...


Then the Left would have rather a lot to answer for, wouldn't they.

Herb Schaltegger wrote:


Don't bother to reply, Lowther

Perfect summation of the political Left. "La-la-la-la I can't hear you
la-la-la..."