Stars and Gas Planets

Big difference between a planet and a star. There must be an awful lot
of gas planets that just don't have the mass to get their core up to 15
million K(close but no cigar) Take Jupiter its 318 times as massive as
Earth,and yet it needs 1,000 times more mass to create that fusion heat.
I find it interesting that our Sun's core is 15 million at its center
and its surface is only 6,000K Is there any chance that Jupiter was
hotter say 4.8 billion years ago? I'm thinking of a very hot gas planet
say 3 million degrees at its core,and 4,000 K at its surface? Maybe I'm
thinking along the lines of a Red dwarf?? To sum it up
I'm trying to bridge the gap between our Sun and the solar systems gas
planets. After all they came from the same cloud. Bert

Just wanted to add that the Sun took 99% of that cloud. That begs the
question. Why did it not take all of it? Maybe it did?? Maybe after
the Sun came to be the solar system came to it say half a billion years
later?/ Is the Oort cloud the same one as the Sun's cloud? The Oort
cloud seems to have no gas objects,and is mostly rock and ice objects.
I think Pluto came out of the Oort cloud. Reality is Pluto is not a
planet. I have a feeling the Sun picked up a lot of stuff moving
through space as it goes round and round the Milky Way. Bert

If a gas planet has a solid core as large or larger than the Earth could
we think in terms that it is a rock planet with a huge atmosphere?
Reason for this thinking is that Jupiter has a core that is 10-15 times
as massive as the entire Earth. That's a big rock,and ice. Bert

Hi nightbat & Double-A Now that the lakes around where I live are heat
polluted,and that means no fish I wonder if the gators will die out
We really have to try to stop the hurricanes forming of the coast of
africa. What if we towed a huge iceberg down to the east coast of Africa
every June i5th;.Even if it costs 10 billion dollars to do it could be
worth every penny. Bert

nightbat wrote

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Hi nightbat & Double-A Now that the lakes around where I live are heat
polluted,and that means no fish I wonder if the gators will die out
We really have to try to stop the hurricanes forming of the coast of
africa. What if we towed a huge iceberg down to the east coast of Africa
every June i5th;.Even if it costs 10 billion dollars to do it could be
worth every penny. Bert

nightbat

As you say Officer Bert the immense cost of hopefully
transporting an large iceberg down to South Africa would be prohibitive
and most likely be melted by the time it was warm southern Atlantic sea
transported down there. Perhaps ice seeding the clouds to disperse the
heated rising summer air would be a better approach. I have long
theoretically net advocated the strategic out at open sea bombing of
forming center swirling funnel hurricane storms before they get to
immense tropical high energy category storm class. Hopefully dispersing
the forming eye long before it is permitted to gain organized strength
is the key in my opinion to hopeful controlling their destructive long
distance capability. It won't have to be nuclear class high energy bombs
either but massive enough systematic regular ordnance mega tonnage type
bombs or directed missile cold element air burst detonated and
periodically fired or high altitude plane dropped to disperse or
redirect forming raising hot air cloud organizing masses away from
hurricane intensity highly class destructive possible land threatening
first forming category ones.

ponder on,
the nightbat

Hi Capt. nightbat I like your idea of destroying the hurricanes
swirling donut. The center is nice and calm,but the air circling around
that core is the killer. Reality is the tornadoes that live inside these
hurricanes can easily bring the wind speed up to 250 mph I can easily
see the path of the tornados that took the roof off my house. The
equation is Hurricane+ tornadoes = destruction. Bert

Have recently posted that new thinking has to be done with our thinking
on the solar systems rocks and heavy elements like "iron" My point is
why are the large rocks have different amounts of the same elements?.
Why do the small hard objects called meteors some made of just iron,and
some made of just rock.? Why so much water as the structure of comets?
Something is missing in our thinking. Our moon has no iron core,or much
iron anywhere. Was the solar system made from just one cloud? I
don't think so Bert PS Venus the Earth's twin is by far not its
identical twin.

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Have recently posted that new thinking has to be done with our thinking
on the solar systems rocks and heavy elements like "iron" My point is
why are the large rocks have different amounts of the same elements?.
Why do the small hard objects called meteors some made of just iron,and
some made of just rock.?


When the fifth planet exploded, part of it was rock, and part of it was
iron. All more volatile elements such as gases and water would have
been driven off my long exposure to the Sun.


Why so much water as the structure of comets?


Because they have spent most of their time far from the Sun and so have
kept their volatile elements.


Something is missing in our thinking. Our moon has no iron core,or much
iron anywhere.


They think the Moon has a very small iron core, but they account for
its lack of iron by theorizing that the Moon was split off from the
Earth by a collision, and contains mostly elements from the Earth's
upper crust.


Was the solar system made from just one cloud? I
don't think so Bert PS Venus the Earth's twin is by far not its
identical twin.


Not so different really in the elements that compose it.

Double-A