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Old May 24th 05, 09:48 AM
Ed Conrad
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I've said it before and I'll say again -- for the zillionth time --
that the factless Theory of Evolution has been kept afloat for many
decades ONLY because of the vested interests of its proponents.

Members of the scientific establishment are well aware that evolution,
especially so the evolution of man, is utterly impossible.

Yet they cannot challenge their Darwian Doctrine -- they cannot
even open their mouths -- for fear of jeopardizing their vested
interests.

For them to stand up against the Establishment, the scientists are
more than well aware that their prestigious stature in the scientific
community will be kaput.

For the zillionth time, I am accusing members of the scientific
establishment of being involved in deceit, deception, collusion
and conspiracy to keep the impossibility of the theory of evolution
from crumbling to dust.

I know this firsthand because, over these past 24 years, members of
the scientific establishment -- at the Smithsonian Institution and the
country's major universities -- have not only toyed with facts and
evidence but have also tampered with it.

They are an utter disgrace to science and ought to be behind bars.
Instead of those letters behind their names, they ought to have a
series of long numbers in front of them.

Shame, shame, a zillion times SHAME.

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LAWYER DEFENDS INTELLIGENT DESIGN


By JOSEPH MALDONADO
For the York (Pa.) Daily Record/Sunday News

Sunday, May 22, 2005

“The social implications of Darwinism have been disastrous,” said
Richard Thompson, the president and chief counsel of the Thomas More
Law Center in Ann Arbor, Mich.

“Nazi Germany used Darwin to justify a master race based on the idea
that it’s survival of the strongest.”

Thompson’s perception that teaching evolution is socially destructive
is just one of the reasons why he volunteered to defend the Dover Area
School District’s school board and administration against a lawsuit
brought against them last December, he said.

Eleven parents sued the district, saying a statement issued by the
district to ninth-grade biology students that intended to teach
students that there were gaps and problems with Darwinian evolution,
was unconstitutional.

The problem, they said, was that the statement also included the
mention of “intelligent design theory.”

Intelligent design suggests that life is too complex to have evolved
on its own through the process of natural selection, which Darwin
conceived. Intelligent design suggests that all living organisms were
designed by a supernatural being or entity.

Critics say the “designer” in intelligent design is God in disguise.
And while many of the plaintiffs have said they have nothing against
God, they do have a problem with religion being taught in a secular
classroom funded with taxpayer money that comes from people of all
faiths or no faith at all.

A decision made by Dover’s board Oct. 18 authorized a curriculum
change that makes specific mention of intelligent design.

Repeatedly since October, board members such as Alan Bonsell, William
Buckingham and Sheila Harkins have said intelligent design is
legitimate science and has nothing at all to do with God. But if that
is true, opponents of the curriculum change ask, then why has Thompson
volunteered to defend the board?

Thomas More’s Web site states the group is “dedicated to the defense
and promotion of the religious freedom of Christians, time-honored
family values and the sanctity of human life.”

The reason Thompson said he took on the case is because Christians,
including himself, support intelligent design.

“And because Christians support it, the ACLU wants it out of the
classroom,” Thompson said. “(Thomas More) is like the anti-ACLU.”

Evolution, which is the current state standard for biological science
in Pennsylvania, has positive implications for atheists in America,
Thompson said. “But anything that has a positive implication for
Christians is not OK,” he added. “That’s discrimination.”

When the case comes to trial in mid- to late September, Thompson said,
intelligent design’s links to creationism won’t matter because his
experts will prove that intelligent design is good science.

“We have credible scientists on both sides of the issue who will say
that the one-minute statement does a good service for students,”
Thompson said. “The statement has already been read once and the roof
didn’t cave in.”

But Vic Walczak, ACLU attorney for the plaintiffs, said Thompson’s got
nothing.

“Nothing gets my fires burning faster than the way the ACLU is
associated with liberal causes,” he said. “We are defenders of
constitutional freedoms for people of all religions, including
Christians.”

He cited cases last year in which the ACLU supported an Amish fight
for horse and buggy rights in Cambria County, a black church near
Pittsburgh that had zoning problems with a local government, and a
woman in Beaver County who needed counseling but insisted that it be
Christian counseling.

“Thompson said we interfere with the rights of people to worship,”
Walczak said. “But the truth is Thomas More, and others like them, are
trying to impose their religious views, symbols and prayers on
everyone.”

Thompson said that while schools are not allowed to teach origins of
life, biblical or otherwise, intelligent design will lead students to
wonder where life comes from.

Members of Dover’s school board have said the “designer” could be
anything, including an alien.

“But for many, the answer will be God,” Thompson said. “And it’s that
connection that certain people have problems with.”

People such as Walczak.

“Once you strip away all the rhetoric you are not left with science,”
he said. “You are left with something that closely resembles
creationism. And that does not belong in any science classroom.”

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If the courageous Dover school board, needs any assistance
that I can provide, they only need holler "Help!." I think I'm
only about 60-70 miles away.

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EVOLUTIONISTS PETRIFIED AT BONES, TEETH
SOFT ORGANS FOUND BETWEEN COAL VEINS


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Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com

Most of the above specimens, found between coal veins
in strata dated at a minimum of 280 years, are now on display at an
exhibit in Berlin, Germany, and will be until the end of October.

Highlight of the exhibit:

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Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com

Man as Old as Coal

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*The Pennsylvania Academic Standards require students to learn about
Darwin’s Theory of Evolution and eventually to take a standardized
test of which evolution is a part.

Because Darwin’s Theory is a theory, it continues to be tested as new
evidence is discovered. The Theory is not a fact. Gaps in the Theory
exist for which there is no evidence. A theory is defined as a
well-tested explanation that unifies a broad range of observations.

Intelligent Design is an explanation of the origin of life that
differs from Darwin’s view. The reference book, Of Pandas and People,
is available for students who might be interested in gaining an
understanding of what Intelligent Design actually involves.

With respect to any theory, students are encouraged to keep an open
mind. The school leaves the discussion of the Origins of Life to
individual students and their families. As a Standards-driven
district, class instruction focuses upon preparing students to achieve
proficiency on Standards-based assessments.

The foregoing statements were developed to provide a balanced view,
and not to teach or present religious beliefs. The Superintendent, Dr.
Richard Nilsen, has directed that no teacher will teach Intelligent
Design, Creationism, or present his or her, or the Board’s, religious
beliefs. The Dover Area School District supports, and does not
discriminate against, students and parents who have competing beliefs,
especially in the area of the Origin of Life debate. The School Board
has noted that there are opinions other than Darwin’s on the Origin of
Life. School districts are forums for inquiry and critical
discussions. The above statement and the District’s revised Biology
curriculum together provide an opportunity for open critical
discussion--the real heart of scientific practice.

Mr. Baksa and Dr. Nilsen will monitor instruction to ensure that
religion is neither inhibited nor promoted.

(cc) talk.origins (since, for the past six months, it has refused to
accept my postings, a direct violation of its charter), Smithsonian
Institution, Michael Behe, American Museum of Natural History,
Intelligent Design, Hubble Ultra View ABC NBC CBS Fox Network CNN
Immanuel Velikovsky American Civil Liberties Union National Academy of
Science Creationism Supreme Court Pennsylvania School Board Las Brea
Tar Pits, University of California at Berkekely Charles Forte American
Association for the Advancement of Science Louisiana School Board
Thomas Edison Penn State University Johns Hopkins Robert Eckhardt
Larry King Harvard University American Medical Laboratories Ted Holden
New York Times Washington Post York Daily Record British Broadcasting
Corp. Hazleton Standard-Speaker Paul Myers Andrew MacRae Allan Walker
Alan Mann American Medical Assocation Harrisburg Patriot-News Gov. Ed
Rendell, Reading Eagle General Accounting Office, Pittsburgh
Post-Gazette Pottsville Republican David Sienkiewicz David Iain Greig,
Scopes Trial Monkey Business

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Old May 24th 05, 11:36 AM
Barry Trotter
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In the great debate about "INTELLIGENT DESIGN vs VESTED INTERESTS" in
alt.atheism, Ed Conrad catapaulted the
following boulder:
I've said it before and I'll say again -- for the zillionth time --
that the factless Theory of Evolution has been kept afloat for many
decades ONLY because of the vested interests of its proponents.

Elroy, is that you?

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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Old May 24th 05, 12:04 PM
Christopher A. Lee
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:36:44 +0100, Barry Trotter
wrote:

In the great debate about "INTELLIGENT DESIGN vs VESTED INTERESTS" in
alt.atheism, Ed Conrad catapaulted the
following boulder:
I've said it before and I'll say again -- for the zillionth time --
that the factless Theory of Evolution has been kept afloat for many
decades ONLY because of the vested interests of its proponents.

Elroy, is that you?


Ed Conrad is a well-known creationist net.loony. Look up his history
on talk.origins and alt.usenet.kooks.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208


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Old May 24th 05, 12:43 PM
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In our last episode , Ed
Conrad pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

I've said it before and I'll say again


I'm sure you will you kook...

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Old May 24th 05, 01:12 PM
Barry Trotter
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In the great debate about " INTELLIGENT DESIGN vs VESTED INTERESTS"
in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee catapaulted
the following boulder:
On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:36:44 +0100, Barry Trotter
wrote:

In the great debate about "INTELLIGENT DESIGN vs VESTED INTERESTS" in
alt.atheism, Ed Conrad catapaulted the
following boulder:
I've said it before and I'll say again -- for the zillionth time --
that the factless Theory of Evolution has been kept afloat for many
decades ONLY because of the vested interests of its proponents.

Elroy, is that you?


Ed Conrad is a well-known creationist net.loony. Look up his history
on talk.origins and alt.usenet.kooks.

Well it had to be either a spoof or an out and out nutjob, and either
way it's hillarious.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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Old May 24th 05, 03:05 PM
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 08:48:15 GMT, Ed Conrad wrote:



I've said it before and I'll say again -- for the zillionth time --
that the factless Theory of Evolution has been kept afloat for many
decades ONLY because of the vested interests of its proponents.


Yeah, and Elvis works as a barman at my local pub, the world is run by the
lizardsi, and Princess Diana was murdered by John F Kennedy.

Twit.




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Old May 24th 05, 05:40 PM
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"JPG" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 May 2005 08:48:15 GMT, Ed Conrad
wrote:


snip

and Princess Diana was murdered by John F Kennedy.

snip

****! There goes the proof I found in a fossilized human penis
located in coal deposits in western Pennsylvania!
It had clearly shown that JFK invented evolution to distract us from
his desire to kill Dianna - or so I thought...
Maybe it was Johnson's johnson...


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Old May 24th 05, 06:14 PM
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 13:12:08 +0100, Barry Trotter
wrote:

In the great debate about " INTELLIGENT DESIGN vs VESTED INTERESTS"
in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee catapaulted
the following boulder:
On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:36:44 +0100, Barry Trotter
wrote:

In the great debate about "INTELLIGENT DESIGN vs VESTED INTERESTS" in
alt.atheism, Ed Conrad catapaulted the
following boulder:
I've said it before and I'll say again -- for the zillionth time --
that the factless Theory of Evolution has been kept afloat for many
decades ONLY because of the vested interests of its proponents.
Elroy, is that you?


Ed Conrad is a well-known creationist net.loony. Look up his history
on talk.origins and alt.usenet.kooks.

Well it had to be either a spoof or an out and out nutjob, and either
way it's hillarious.


I must just be getting cynical in my old age. but I don't find
cretinist idiots like Ed the least bit amusing. Annoying as hell, more
like.


David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208


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Old May 29th 05, 02:29 AM
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Ed Conrad astounded us with:
:



I've said it before and I'll say again -- for the zillionth time --
that the factless Theory of Evolution has been kept afloat for many
decades ONLY because of the vested interests of its proponents.


liar

n : a person who has lied or who lies repeatedly

Ed, that be you



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